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Old August 16th, 2013, 01:04 PM   #2021
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They could... But after a great deal of years with no official links neither integration, even within HS trains or so, they began offering it... and step by step they are increasing these services.

I know that a lot of things are yet to be done, but after doing nothing, today's better.
Which still begs the question why they need so much time to get something done that other railways have been doing for near to two centuries...

An example of missed opportunities: the night train from Barcelona too Granada arrives there at a time where there is no onward travel for three hours. So for people wishing to go to other places in Andalusia it is worthless. No wonder those trains keep losing money...
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Old August 16th, 2013, 09:12 PM   #2022
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Not all is cool, I agree. As you will know, commuter trains are included in the long distance tickets.

In my city, once I made calculations about long distance arrivals and next commuter train available to city centre. Only a third part had a train within 20 minutes. The maximum time I would accept waiting prior to take the bus (or taxi or asking someone to call you to station)

The worst side was when I checked that one commuter had passed 5 minutes before (empty) and had to wait about 40 for next one.

I know commuter services have improved but they could better keep on that way
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Old August 17th, 2013, 11:17 AM   #2023
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Does anyone know when the direct High Speed train from Paris to Barcelona will open? At the moment you have to change at Figueres - I plan on getting the train from Paris to Barcelona next year and am hoping I won't have to change.
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Some whispering points at october this year however this is not a 100% sure fact and it can change
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Old August 17th, 2013, 04:30 PM   #2025
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It's very disappointing. Everyone was saying it should've been operational already by April this year, then Geneva by around September, now it's October for Paris and... well, then I guess Geneva won't be operational until 1st or 2nd quarter 2014! but the direct rail link got already cancelled last year in anticipation for the TGV
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Old August 17th, 2013, 04:45 PM   #2026
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Once they've solved their certification and signalling issues it could probably all happen at once. The desire is there and the line has been finished...
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Old August 17th, 2013, 09:00 PM   #2027
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Once they've solved their certification and signalling issues it could probably all happen at once. The desire is there and the line has been finished...
Have the lack of power issues been solved on the Spanish side?
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Old August 18th, 2013, 12:52 AM   #2028
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Have the lack of power issues been solved on the Spanish side?
Not yet. It should be by 2014, when the new electric line from Baixas (France) to Bescanó (Spain) will be finished.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 12:46 AM   #2029
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
Two pics of the works at around Vilavella (sector Pedralba-Porto).
That´s in the Ourense province, but near the limit with the Zamora province.

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Old August 21st, 2013, 01:09 AM   #2030
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Things moving along I see... By the way are all major engineering structures (bridges, viaducts, tunnels) on this line already under construction or are some still only on paper?
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Valladolid-Venta de Baños-Burgos HSL.
Photos of the area near Venta de Baños, where there are two viaducts under construction over river Pisuerga, and where there´s also the junction that will allow trains to run from Leon (and further into Asturias or Galicia along the classic line through Ponferrada) to Burgos (and further into the Basque Country, and also Barcelona via Saragossa and Navarre).

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I start at the same crop that I visited in spring, which showed then a deep green colour of the cereal. On my visit of July the 2nd, that crop had turned yellow.



Looking backwards we can see the conveyor belt of the cement plant. For some reason, it reminded me of the Orihuela viaduct and the pipe [of the Tajo-Segura canal].



Bleeding tree!

There was no other way to find a better cropping.
There were people working, and on the other hand, there were constraints to avoid the tree.



An irrigation canal keeps you from getting closer to the river.



The irrigation canal would be just at the bottom of this pic:



On the Burgos side of the viaduct, the pillars have been built on a land thet has been formed precisely for the work. The width of the river spanned to the tres on the other side:



The unusual width of the river is caused by a dam further down.



In hindsight, on the right of the tres we can see the pérgola through which one of the Palencia-Burgos tracks would cross overthe two Valladolid-Burgos tracks.



Zooming:



There are different types of pillars. The ones on land are rectangular, and the ones on the river bed, cyllindric.
In hindsight, we can tell the line of the Palencia-Burgos tracks.



As I got away from the place I looked for different perspectives of the works.







Next, I moved till the vertex of the by-pass on the Palencia side.
The already known artificial Villamuriel tunnel -aka Vallelongos-, through which the Valladolid-Palencia tracks will be. On top will be one of the Palencia-Burgos tracks.



THere are works at the start of the Palencia-Burgos viaduct, which means a strong limitation of movement, since that crop was free, and now it´s been fenced.



If instead of looking towards the tunnel we look on the opposite sense (towards Venta de Baños) we can see the platform already finished and on the left, the fence that limits the movement.



Now all new tunnels have a platform perfectly adapted for a posible evacuation of a train.



On the left we can tell the tunnel mouth, and on the right the junction with the Burgos future track. The fence on both sides will keep people out from there, from now on.



Located nearly at the vertex of the two fences, we can see the platform coming from Venta de baños nearly entering the tunnel (on the right).



Turning a little to the left, the fence of the Palencia-Burgos platform with the structure that will enable wildlife to abandon the railway premises.



The white and red structures mark the point at which the Palencia-Burgos viaduct would start.



By now, and up until we don´t see the works advance, a good take isn´t posible. The viaduct will be in a bend, ant it will follow that "line" in hindsight.



Zooming, and unaware of the results we can see on the far left the point at which the Palencia-Burgos will end. On the right of the pile machine we can tell that they´ve already started with the piles of this viaduct. Mid-height and from left to right (or right to left) we can tell the tracks of the Valladolid-Burgos classic line.



To the left, Palencia. To the right, Burgos.



The viaduct will cross over A-62 motorway, road N-620, the Madrid-Hendaye classic line, and river Pisuerga.



From the Palencia side, view with zoom of the abutment of the other viaduct (Valladolid-Burgos), on the Burgos side of it.



In this hodge-podge pic (we can even see a frigorific lorry on the motorway) we can tell that between the motorway and the road, the shallow foundations are already there, so work on the pillars is able to be started.



When I was getting out on the road to leave, I saw this (to me) unknown tractor moving wagons at the cement plant.



The Alvia Irun (and Bilbao) to Madridm on its way to Valladolid.



Halt at the point where the viaduct will cross over the road, classic railway and river. There´s nothing visible.



Looking opposite (towards Palencia) we can see the works.



This pic´s made from the road. The traffic barrier belongs to the motorway.



Between the road and the motorway we can see this:







And right home from there. But just before, an exit from the motorway to see the culverts that forcé the trains to run at 30-80-30 km/h at a point where they should be running at 160 km/h.



In one of them, some works seemed to be going on.



And that´s all I saw on July 2, 2013
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Things moving along I see... By the way are all major engineering structures (bridges, viaducts, tunnels) on this line already under construction or are some still only on paper?
Most of it is under construction, I´d say around 95% is, but not all yet.
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Madrid Chamartín-Madrid Atocha connection HSL.

A pic of the tunnel between these two stations.
It is rather important that this tunnel opens, since Alvia through services will cut travel time by almost an hour.
It´s not really a high-speed tunnel though, since both stations are not far away enough, one from each other.

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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
Pictures of the works at the Zamora-Pedralba section (between Zamora and Ourense).

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La Encina-Xàtiva-Valencia HSL

Pictures taken near La Font de la Figuera, there was a bit of fog:

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Near Santa Bárbara tunnel, very close to La Font de la Figuera.
Reconstruction works of the old La Encina-Xàtiva classic line between La Font de la Figuera and Moixent.
If you have a good eye, you´ll tell the piles of monobloc sleepers, at one side of the platform:





La Font de la Figuera junction, general views:




In detail, a view of the state of the platform works:





The HSL towards La Encina junction:



The old Mariaga tunnel in hindsight, the old classic line won´t be reconstructed in that sector:



Future La Teja junction and in hindsight the Aguaverde junction:






And to finish, the viaducts at La Oliva junction, a class 449 EMU on a regional Alicante-Ciudad Real passing by, and the crossing of one of the branches of the triangle under the Alicante main line:








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Albacete-Alicante HSL.
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
Pictures of the works between Zamora and Pedralba de la Pradería, in the Zamora province (Castile and Leon):

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Pictures of the works between Pedralba de la Pradería and Vilavella, in the Ourense province (Galicia).

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I really like the architecture and design of the Villena Alta Velocidad station: it's modern, clean, transparent, and welcoming. It would be better without the X-ray scanners and all that, but I understand why they're there.

What I find quite fascinating is that there is nothing which resembles Renfe until you get to the ticket vending machines. Over here, the NS branding is found on every station (even on stations not served by NS anymore), and pretty much the same goes for Germany. In France, SNCF is everywhere too (even on bus stops).
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You can find traces of Renfe in older stations but the new ones are as operator neutral as possible.

The only exception are the cercanías stations wich are owned by Adif but managed by Renfe following a colaboration agreement... still you can see the Cercanías branding but not much renfe branding...
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I really like the architecture and design of the Villena Alta Velocidad station: it's modern, clean, transparent, and welcoming. It would be better without the X-ray scanners and all that, but I understand why they're there.

What I find quite fascinating is that there is nothing which resembles Renfe until you get to the ticket vending machines. Over here, the NS branding is found on every station (even on stations not served by NS anymore), and pretty much the same goes for Germany. In France, SNCF is everywhere too (even on bus stops).
Adif (the infrastructure operator) and Renfe (the train operator) are two different things.

In France, stations are owned by Sncf (train operator), not by RFF (infrastructure operator).
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