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Old December 9th, 2013, 12:59 AM   #2361
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
Section Olmedo junction-Zamora.

Pictures taken between Olmedo junction and Medina del Campo-AVE station.

Some pictures of more or less the same areas than the post above , but without the fog.

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Barcelona-Sants station.

Five days left.

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Old December 11th, 2013, 05:40 PM   #2363
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Valladolid-Venta de Baños-Palencia-Leon (-Oviedo) HSL.
Section Palencia-Leon.


They have started laying the sleepers:

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Old December 11th, 2013, 05:51 PM   #2364
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
Section Pedralba de la Pradería-Ourense.


A photo of the two tubes of O Espiño, taken from the Ourense side of the future A Gudiña-AV station:

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Old December 12th, 2013, 01:26 AM   #2365
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Barcelona-Sants station.

Three days left.

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Old December 12th, 2013, 07:10 PM   #2366
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Is there any chance that Medina AV station will be postponed because they understood that building it on the intersection with the classic line would be more intelligent?
ROFL LOLZ ROFL

Intelligent, strategic and coordinated infrastructure planning in this country is non existant, this is Spain after all...
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ROFL LOLZ ROFL

Intelligent, strategic and coordinated infrastructure planning in this country is non existant, this is Spain after all...
You are Spanish, aren´t you?
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Old December 13th, 2013, 05:10 AM   #2368
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Well, I think French RFF is planning to move Lorraine TGV station to another close location for allowing exchanges with the TER services... so, it is not only a Spanish singularity.

France and Spain are not that different
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You are Spanish, aren´t you?
And?

Being critical of the way infrastructure planning is being handled in this country is something I think is the duty of every self respecting citizen.
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Anyway, for a good optimization of the infrastructure the good location for the station would be at the intersection with the conventional line, that's fore sure. We'll see, but by now it seems that it gonna be placed in another location.
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I see TGV train on the station ... Is already run direct trains from Paris to Barcelona?
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Nope, starting tomorrow. But they have been testing commercial services since november. That's why TGVs and AVEs have been running regularly between both countries during last weeks.
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I see TGV train on the station ... Is already run direct trains from Paris to Barcelona?
As said... tomorrow (Sunday 15th) morning starts.

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NEWS

According to some inner Renfe and Sncf sources, from March 31 there are reservations made for the following paths in France (and Switzerland):

-4 paths Perpignan-Paris (Gare de Lyon)
-2 paths Perpignan-Lyon (Part Dieu)
-1 path Perpignan-Geneva (Cornavin)
-2 paths Perpignan-Toulouse (Matabiau)
-2 paths Perpignan-Marseille (St Charles)

It is still not clear that all of these paths will be used. The Geneva paths could be postponed again until the end of the reelectrification Works in the section Bellegarde-Geneva.

The paths to Toulouse and Marseille would be coupled between Perpignan and Barcelona or Madrid. They may include stops at Camp de Tarragona and/or Zaragoza-Delicias (or maybe not, it´s unclear).
The path to Geneva would be identical to a path to Lyon, but adding a stop at Bellegarde and another at Geneva (Cornavin).
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As said... tomorrow (Sunday 15th) morning starts.

Twice per day, daily.
Ah yes. Today is changing schedule of trains all over Europe. In the Polish television was also reporting about this direct connection And what about Paris - Madrid? Will be direct train in the future?
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Ah yes. Today is changing schedule of trains all over Europe. In the Polish television was also reporting about this direct connection And what about Paris - Madrid? Will be direct train in the future?
Today both Paris-Barcelone have a link to Zaragoza and Madrid within 20 minutes or less in Barcelone. I would focus services not in direct trains but in better connections from Barcelone to other cities (there are some destinations where one travellere should wait for a long time and that makes no sense to take the train. For instance, let's remember that Barcelona and Malaga have two daily connections which could make the direct train full HSL in Europe, isn't it?)

Today:
2 Barcelone-Paris
1 Barcelone-Toulouse
1 Barcelone-Lyon
1 Madrid-Marseille

To my best knowledge, situation in April could change to this one:

2 more trains (up to four) to Paris
1 more train to Toulouse and Marseille (could be the same one and separating them in Montpellier)
1 more train to Lyon
and... 1 more train to Geneva


Should they start in Barcelone or some of them in Madrid. Should trains starting in Madrid will make calls before Barcelone is completely unknown.


In this thread (in Spanish) there is more information

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...667033&page=14
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is only SNCF stock going to roll on those new HS lines, or we could soon see RENFE (AVE) too?
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is only SNCF stock going to roll on those new HS lines, or we could soon see RENFE (AVE) too?
For the international services every company provides 10 trainsets, so both, TGVs 2N2 and AVE S-100F will be used but on different routes: TGV 2N2 for the Barcelona-Paris services and AVE S-100F for Madrid-Marseille, Barcelona-Toulouse and Barcelona-Lyon services.
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is only SNCF stock going to roll on those new HS lines, or we could soon see RENFE (AVE) too?
As has been said, both and management of service is "on cooperation".
This is, several trains have been approved to drive over all tracks, either SNCF or RENFE trains.
It will be a joined policy to decide which train goes to each line.
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For the international services every company provides 10 trainsets, so both, TGVs 2N2 and AVE S-100F will be used but on different routes: TGV 2N2 for the Barcelona-Paris services and AVE S-100F for Madrid-Marseille, Barcelona-Toulouse and Barcelona-Lyon services.
At least till March 2014, they will be TGV Dasye, not TGV 2N2.
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