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Old December 16th, 2013, 06:55 AM   #2381
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Are you sure about TGV Dayse going to Barcelona? I thought they were only able to go to Figueras and no further?

Now they need to use the the ten new TGV 2N2 Trails?
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interesting choice AVE S100. is there some particular reason why is that class chosen? i'd expect Velaro for that service.
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Are you sure about TGV Dayse going to Barcelona? I thought they were only able to go to Figueras and no further?
Yes, the TGV Dasye are the ones that are doing the Barcelona-Paris service.
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Now they need to use the the ten new TGV 2N2 Trails?
Maybe they just don´t have the lot of them yet, or maybe they´re not homologated yet.
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interesting choice AVE S100. is there some particular reason why is that class chosen? i'd expect Velaro for that service.
The Velaro cannot run on 1.5 kV DC (only on 25kV AC), while the S-100 were built for both 3 and 25 kV, so adapting them to 1.5 kV was easy. Initially RENFE planned to order new trains.
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The Velaro cannot run on 1.5 kV DC (only on 25kV AC), while the S-100 were built for both 3 and 25 kV, so adapting them to 1.5 kV was easy. Initially RENFE planned to order new trains.
Indeed.
Initially Renfe had ordered to Alstom 10 TGV Duplex (I guess they were TGV 2N2-3UH).
But the order was cancelled because of the crisis, so they decided to modify 10 AVE S-100 (all of the ex-S101 plus some more).
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Yes, the TGV Dasye are the ones that are doing the Barcelona-Paris service.
Do do want me to post a picture of it, just to prove it, or do you believe me already?
Here´s proof that it´s a TGV Dasye.

A TGV leaving Girona station bound for Paris-Gare de Lyon yesterday:

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Arrivals at Madrid-Puerta de Atocha yesterday:

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Arrivals at Girona yesterday.

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Old December 17th, 2013, 12:20 AM   #2389
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Photos from yesterday.

At Barcelona-Sants, a TGV bound for Paris-Gare de Lyon:

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At Girona. The screens definitely were not working very well...

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Montpellier-St Roch station, I suppose. The screens weren´t working very well, either... (calling two times at Figueres-Vilafant... ):

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The Velaro cannot run on 1.5 kV DC (only on 25kV AC), while the S-100 were built for both 3 and 25 kV, so adapting them to 1.5 kV was easy. Initially RENFE planned to order new trains.
oh, i forgot about 1,5 kV gap at southern France.
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Madrid-Barcelona-Figueres Vilafant HSL.
Barcelona-Sant Andreu Comtal station.

An AVE S-100 on a test run Toulouse-Barcelona, on December 12 2013.

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Old December 18th, 2013, 02:45 AM   #2393
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Madrid-Barcelona-Figueres Vilafant HSL.
Llinars del Vallès viaduct, over motorway AP-7 and river Mogent.

A TGV Paris Gare de Lyon-Barcelona Sants, served by a TGV Dasye:

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An AVE Madrid Atocha-Figueres Vilafant, served by a Siemens Velaro S-103:

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Old December 18th, 2013, 03:00 AM   #2394
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Barcelona-Sants station.

The first TGV Barcelona Sants-Paris Gare de Lyon ever, departing Barcelona for Paris on December 15 2013:

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Madrid-Puerta de Atocha station.

An AVE waiting to depart for Marseille.

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Mollet junction.

This is the point where the freight trains coming from France must leave the HSL for the classic Mollet-Castellbisbal line on their way to Barcelona (and in the not so distant future, further south in Spain).

A few trainspotters looking at trains on the first day of the new France-Spain HSR service (and filming and taking pictures, needless to say), from a footbridge between Mollet and Sant Fost over river Besos.

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-09:30 AVE Figueres Vilafant-Madrid Atocha (Siemens S-103)
-09:35 TGV Barcelona Sants-Paris Gare de Lyon (Alstom TGV Dasye)
-09:55 AVE Madrid Atocha-Figueres Vilafant (Siemens S-103)
-10:40 AVE Barcelona Sants-Toulouse Matabiau (Alstom S-100)
-11:20 Talgo Mare Nostrum Montpellier-Cartagena (last service from beyond Barcelona) rushing through Mollet-Sant Fost station on the classic line, seen from the same point as the other trains.
-11:35 AVE Marseille St Charles-Madrid Atocha (Alstom S-100)
-11:45 AVE Barcelona Sants-Perpignan (Alstom S-100), special service for the inauguration (with the ministers Ana Pastor and Frédéric Cuvillier inside, MPs, journalists, and etc...)

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The Velaro cannot run on 1.5 kV DC (only on 25kV AC)
Given the way a modern traction system works (AC=>DC=>AC) and the fact that the ICE3-M on which the Velaro-E is based is multi-system, I don't think it would be that difficult to make a Velaro-E run on 1.5 kV DC. If it's worth it to actually do so, is another matter.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 09:57 AM   #2398
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Today on Railway Gazette:

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ADIF to split into high speed and conventional businesses
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SPAIN: Meeting on December 13, the Spanish cabinet approved legislation to split infrastructure manager ADIF into two companies, one responsible for the 1 435 mm gauge high speed network and the other for the 1 668 mm and 1 000 mm gauge routes used by conventional services.

As well as complying with European Union ESA 2010 accounting regulations that are due to be implemented from September 2014, the creation of a separate high speed business would, according to the Ministry of Development, improve efficiency as the passenger market is opened up to competition and place public funding of railway infrastructure on a sounder footing. Taking on debt relating to the construction of high speed lines, ADIF Alta Velocidad would be responsible for new projects, deriving its funding from access charges and other sources.

As well as access charges paid by train operators for use of the conventional network, ADIF would be funded by government grant classified as public spending under the new accounting rules, 'but without a significant impact' on the government deficit, according to the Ministry of Development.

A single corporate structure is to be maintained, with the ADIF President and Board Secretary holding the same posts at ADIF Alta Velocidad, thereby keeping the total number of directors the same. The legislation also makes provision for ADIF Alta Velocidad to contract out certain activities to ADIF, such as train control, maintenance, security and corporate functions.
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I like the shape of this train, the external features look pipped up.
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It is a prototype designed by Caf named Oaris. It can reach 350 km/h.

It was delivered to Renfe as substitute of the last train of the 120.500 series, for being tested by the national company on rails. For Renfe it is the 105 series.

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