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Old December 30th, 2013, 02:12 AM   #2421
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
Section Zamora-Pedralba de la Pradería.


Pictures taken between Zamora and La Hiniesta.

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Just outside Zamora, Valderrey bends.

Looking towards Ourense:



Same place, looking towards Zamora:





Overpass of road ZA-900 over the HSL, near La Hiniesta station.

Looking towards Zamora:



Same place, looking towards Ourense:





Looking towards Zamora, a false tunnel under future motorway A-11:

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Old December 30th, 2013, 06:22 AM   #2422
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Is that a single track HSL? Or is the other track placed somewhere outside of the picture?
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Old December 30th, 2013, 09:27 AM   #2423
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Look to the left in the top picture. Track bed.
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Old December 30th, 2013, 02:12 PM   #2424
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The track visible is the current classical line, right?

By the way are there some particularly interesting engineering structures between Zamora and Ourense? Any particularly long viaducts, spectacular bridges or long (more than 3-4 km) tunnels?
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Old December 30th, 2013, 05:24 PM   #2425
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The track visible is the current classical line, right?
That´s a double-track platform, next to the classic main line. We still don´t know wether in this section will be installed double-track or not.

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Famous rail blogger "Seat 61" released a video on the new TGV services to Barcelona

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Old December 30th, 2013, 09:37 PM   #2427
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Valladolid-Venta de Baños-Burgos HSL.

Photos taken near Buniel, between Quintanilleja and Estépar stations.

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Old December 30th, 2013, 09:40 PM   #2428
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Valladolid-Venta de Baños-Burgos HSL.

Photo taken near Buniel, between Quintanilleja and Estépar stations.

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Madrid-Seville HSL.
Villanueva de Córdoba-Los Pedroches station (not opened yet).


This new station is an old technical loop, just a bit upgraded.
It is located between Puertollano and Cordoba stations, but closer to Cordoba.
It´s been claimed for years by the inhabitants of the north of Cordoba province, and it´s finished, although its opening is being delayed once and again.

It has to be said that we Spanish SSC forumers don´t see much use to this station, since it´s located in a not very populated area.
At least, it´s quite a simple station anyway, not UFO-like at all.

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By the way are there some particularly interesting engineering structures between Zamora and Ourense? Any particularly long viaducts, spectacular bridges or long (more than 3-4 km) tunnels?
Between Puebla de Sanabria (north of Zamora) and Ourense there are several tunnels with a combined length of around 70 km (summing up the values given by Ferropedia it is 68.193 metres, but that site doesn't give the length of a couple of tunnels).

There are 8 tunnels longer than 5 km, the longest being around 8.5 km. All of them are new, except the Padornelo tunnel, where if I understand correctly only one single track tube will be built new, while the existing Padornelo tunnel (which is wide enough) will have a standard gauge track and a broad gauge one.

Between Olmedo (and even Segovia) and Puebla de Sanabria there aren't many tunnels, none really long, while between Ourense and Santiago there are many short tunnels (most less than 1 km, longest 4 km). An 8 km tunnel is being built to link the new Vigo station, which will be on a stub branch of the Eje Atlantico.
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This is fantastic, given Spain's economic circumstances that they are still pushing ahead with these high-speed rail works. Well done. We are planning to visit Spain in 2015 so i will definitely catch one of these trains and experience the wonders of high speed rail!
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Madrid-Seville HSL.
Villanueva de Córdoba-Los Pedroches station (not opened yet).


Update: view of the platforms, with the old staff building (and a finger), I just can´t remember wether the new passenger building replaces this one or is just beside it.

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And?

Being critical of the way infrastructure planning is being handled in this country is something I think is the duty of every self respecting citizen.
At least Spain is building its high-speed rail. In Australia all they do is talk about it and have one study after another and nothing gets done!
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Old December 31st, 2013, 12:28 AM   #2434
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In this pic from the other side you can see the older one (the bricked one on the right) and behind, the new one which is basically a large waiting and entry hall. As you say, a really simple and cheap building.
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At least Spain is building its high-speed rail. In Australia all they do is talk about it and have one study after another and nothing gets done!
It´s different, fella.
Spain is the second biggest country in the EU after France (which is only slightly bigger than Spain).

On the other hand, Australia, Canada and the USA are huge countries with vast unpopulated gaps.

Of course, there are corridors which would allow for HSR in those three countries, but Australia and Canada are less populated than Spain, and in the USA the population is concentrated on the East and West coasts.
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Of course, there are corridors which would allow for HSR in those three countries, but Australia and Canada are less populated than Spain, and in the USA the population is concentrated on the East and West coasts.
I've never heard of any passenger rail proposals for Montana/Wyoming or leading to Alice Springs. Current proposals deal with reasonable corridors in high population density areas. Low population density of US in particular is overstated anyway. I checked and in fact there are 11 states (including NY, Florida and California) with population density higher than Spain.

Reason why nothing is likely to be built in the near future is general antipathy to public infrastructure spending and the fact that existing railways are mostly owned by private companies whose only interest is freight.

Of course this is entirely off-topic and has nothing to do with Spanish HSR
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Reason why nothing is likely to be built in the near future is general antipathy to public infrastructure spending and the fact that existing railways are mostly owned by private companies whose only interest is freight.


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Of course this is entirely off-topic and has nothing to do with Spanish HSR
I know, I just fancied a bit of chatter.
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
Section Olmedo junction-Zamora.


Twit containing a photo of the sleepers and ballast being laid near Toro, between Medina del Campo-AV and Zamora stations.

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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
Section Olmedo junction-Zamora.

Zamora station.

The picture shows two Alvias crossing at the Iberian gauge platforms, while sleepers will very soon be laid in the three standard-gauge tracks.

Man, they are fast.

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Madrid-Seville HSL.
Villanueva de Córdoba-Los Pedroches station (not opened yet).


Update: view of the platforms, with the old staff building (and a finger), I just can´t remember wether the new passenger building replaces this one or is just beside it.
A new "local" station on a HSL? What trains will stop there?
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