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Old April 20th, 2014, 08:48 PM   #2841
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
Section Zamora-Pedralba de la Pradería.


Images taken between Cernadilla and Otero de Sanabria.

Here´s where problems start (mountain, weather, delays in construction).

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Which high-speed train services not stopping or calling in Madrid are there at the moment?
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
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Otero de Sanabria future station (or crossing loop, not sure yet).
If it ever opens, the nearest town will be Puebla de Sanabria, which is quite small.
And the biggest town around would be Bragança, in Portugal (we´re nearly in the border).

A scheme of the posible station, and some images:

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Which high-speed train services not stopping or calling in Madrid are there at the moment?
AVE Barcelona-Seville, AVE Barcelona-Malaga.
They avoid Madrid-Atocha through a by-pass, although they run through some of its southern quarters and suburbs.
For now, that´s all, all the others call at Madrid-Atocha or both Madrid-Atocha and Madrid-Chamartín.
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Old April 20th, 2014, 09:11 PM   #2845
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
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Images taken between Otero de Sanabria and Puebla de Sanabria.

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AVE Barcelona-Seville, AVE Barcelona-Malaga.
They avoid Madrid-Atocha through a by-pass, although they run through some of its southern quarters and suburbs.
For now, that´s all, all the others call at Madrid-Atocha or both Madrid-Atocha and Madrid-Chamartín.
He wasn't asking that of course, but literally speaking there are also Barcelona-France services and Seville-Malaga as well. Anything else running on HS lines and having nothing to do with Madrid?
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
Section Zamora-Pedralba de la Pradería.


Images taken at Puebla de Sanabria, in February and April 2014.

Viaduct over river Tera:

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And right after the viaduct, a tunnel under Puebla de Sanabria station of the classic line.
This is the reason why there could be no station here, there´s just no room.

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He wasn't asking that of course, but literally speaking there are also Barcelona-France services and Seville-Malaga as well. Anything else running on HS lines and having nothing to do with Madrid?
Transversal Alvias (Barcelona-Corunna, Barcelona-Valladolid, Barcelona-Ponferrada, Barcelona-Bilbao, Barcelona-Pamplona, Barcelona-Irun, Barcelona-Gijon).

And also the Trenhotel Barcelona-Corunna/Vigo, a night train.

These already use the Madrid-Barcelona HSL between Barcelona and Zaragoza, plus future extensions of other HSLs.

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And, although they do not run on HSLs yet, they will do it soon, the Euromed services (Barcelona-Valencia, Barcelona-Alicante).

These will use the HSL between Alicante and Valencia, and between Camp de Tarragona and Barcelona.

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Also the Arco Bilbao/Hendaye-Corunna/Vigo.

These could use the HSL between Burgos and Leon once it opens.

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I think that´s all.
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
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Images between Puebla de Sanabria and Pedralba de la Pradería, in February and April 2014.

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The Puebla de Sanabria-Bragança route:







An overpass for some walk:









And then we get to the crossing with the classic line.
Probably the future Pedralba gauge changer will be installed here:







http://www.trenzamora.es/Lineaszamor...aLPOrense.html
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I guess you can include as well in high speed services not calling in Madrid:

Avant A Coruña-Santiago-Ourense
Avant Calatayud-Zaragoza
AVE Valencia-Cuenca-Ciudad Real-Puertollano-Córdoba-Sevilla

There is still separated Avant services between Lleida Camp de Tarragona and Barcelona? If it is, they can be included too.

I am not sure if there is anymore else...
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Do Valencia-Alicante HS trains have to go to Cuenca to reverse, or is there some flyover for them to travel directly like Valencia <=> Albacete
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Avant Calatayud-Zaragoza
Is this a shuttle service only, or does it continue to Huesca?
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Madrid-Galicia HSL.
Section Pedralba de la Pradería-Ourense.


Images taken between Pedralba de la Pradería and Requejo.

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Is this a shuttle service only, or does it continue to Huesca?
There is the shuttle service one:
http://horarios.renfe.com/HIRRenfeWe...01&DT=25%20min.

I am not sure if there is separated Avant to Huesca, but I think currently it is integrated into the AVE Madrid-Huesca, and from Zaragoza part of the seats are sold as Avant.
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I guess you can include as well in high speed services not calling in Madrid:

Avant A Coruña-Santiago-Ourense
Right.

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Avant Calatayud-Zaragoza
Wrong, they don´t exist anymore, thank God, they were a waste of space and money.

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AVE Valencia-Cuenca-Ciudad Real-Puertollano-Córdoba-Sevilla
I also forgot about that one.

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There is still separated Avant services between Lleida Camp de Tarragona and Barcelona? If it is, they can be included too.
I think they still exist, yes.

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I am not sure if there is anymore else...
And there´s also an "AV" (an Alvia running entirely on HSL, which is a silly name) between Alicante and Malaga.

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Do Valencia-Alicante HS trains have to go to Cuenca to reverse, or is there some flyover for them to travel directly like Valencia <=> Albacete
There are no Valencia-Alicante direct HSR services on the HSL.
The line isnb´t finished yet.

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Is this a shuttle service only, or does it continue to Huesca?
It used to be a shuttle service, like the one between Zaragoza and Huesca, that was also luckily discontinued.
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That´s an AVE selling Avant-priced seats.

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I am not sure if there is separated Avant to Huesca, but I think currently it is integrated into the AVE Madrid-Huesca, and from Zaragoza part of the seats are sold as Avant.
There is one (weekends two) AVE Madrid-Huesca, which sells some Avant-priced tickets between both Calatayud and Zaragoza on one hand, and between Zaragoza and Tardienta, Tardienta and Huesca and Zaragoza and Huesca.

The rest of services were taken back to the classic line, since they were hardly transporting anyone due to their price and the little population of the area, and also because of the fact that the classic line is only slightly slower than the HSL Zaragoza-Huesca (in which the top speed is only 200 km/h, while the classic line top speed is 160 km/h), and also it gets to a more central station at Zaragoza (Zaragoza-Goya), while the HSL trains only call at Zaragoza-Delicias.
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Covering the whole trench would have been nicer and easy...(I suppose it is a wildlife passage).
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Covering the whole trench would have been nicer and easy...(I suppose it is a wildlife passage).
I can´t remember who said that too in the Spanish forum. It wasn´t yourself, I believe...

And yes it´s a wildlife passage.
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Side-effects of the new fare system on Easter holidays...

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Al trains are sold out between Zaragoza and Barcelona tomorrow (in Turista and Turista Plus), the first time I see everything full in this section.
Note: the section Zaragoza-Barcelona has always had a lower occupancy than other sections due to the high number of trains (all the AVE trains to Madrid, plus all the AVE trains to Andalusia, plus all the Alvia trains to Northern Spain).

So these data are remarkable.
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And right after the viaduct, a tunnel under Puebla de Sanabria station of the classic line.
This is the reason why there could be no station here, there´s just no room.
I guess it was prohibitively expensive to make an underground station in the tunnel there right below the one on the classical line. It would have been neat, though.
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