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Old May 28th, 2014, 02:30 AM   #2981
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y otra que cacé de casualidad

Alvia Irún/Bilbao - Barcelona pasando por Utebo


this train departs from Irun and from Bilbao. They are two trains indeed which are joined at Castejon de Ebro. They run over the classic line until the begining of Zaragoza-Delicias station where they will change the gauge to standard one and take the HSL until Barcelona.

From Casetas station to Zaragoza there are commuter trains also. This picture is taken from Utebo commuter station.
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Old May 29th, 2014, 12:55 AM   #2982
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So are they actually working on high speed lines between Sevilla-Antequera and Antequera-Granada?
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if you want, check out the rather complicated situation with the help of a Google Earth file (KMZ) I created, it shows what is currently under construction and which HSL lines under construction are for the moment abandoned. Only lines that are becoming visibly "real" (in Google Earth or Bing) are shown, no projects....

Basically, what is not on the KMZ is very unlikely it will be built within the next 10 years or so because the missing gaps are filled with "cheap" third rail sections on classic old iberian gauged lines. Or won't be used at all within a 10 to 15year future (lines colored in pink).

Get the Google Earth KMZ for spanish Medium and High Speed lines at
http://retrofutur.org/rail


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Old May 31st, 2014, 02:10 AM   #2983
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Madrid-Badajoz(-Lisbon) HSL.
Section Cáceres-Mérida.

The platform between Cáceres and Aldea del Cano has been finished.

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Old May 31st, 2014, 08:38 AM   #2984
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That last picture is particularly cool. Unusual landscape, not really a forest and not open fields either. What are those frequent crossings? The one in the foreground looks like an unpaved rural road. Is that so?
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Old May 31st, 2014, 04:04 PM   #2985
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That last picture is particularly cool. Unusual landscape, not really a forest and not open fields either. What are those frequent crossings? The one in the foreground looks like an unpaved rural road. Is that so?
That kind of landscape is the usual in Western Spain (Extremadura, part of the provinces of Zamora, Salamanca, Toledo and Ciudad Real, Northern Andalusia) and inner part of Southern Portugal (particularlly the Alentejo region). This kind of thinned out Mediterranean forest, whose most representative trees are the cork oak (alcornoque in Spanish) and the holm oak (encina in Spanish) is named dehesa in Spanish and montado in Portuguese. It is pretty particular because it makes compatible the maitenance of the traditional forest and other uses (crops and livestock, such as the Fighting bull).

The point is that its color is completely different in Spring and partially in Fall and Winter because all the grasslands get green, and Summer, where you get a nice yellow background spotted by amazing big dark green trees.

And yes, probably it is just a rural unpaved road. This is not unproductive space, so paths for rural needs are usual in this kind of landscape. Here you have a link to Bing Maps which displays pretty good the trace of the HSL through this landscape: http://binged.it/1gPAnxi
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That kind of landscape is the usual in Western Spain (Extremadura, part of the provinces of Zamora, Salamanca, Toledo and Ciudad Real, Northern Andalusia) and inner part of Southern Portugal (particularlly the Alentejo region). This kind of thinned out Mediterranean forest, whose most representative trees are the cork oak (alcornoque in Spanish) and the holm oak (encina in Spanish) is named dehesa in Spanish and montado in Portuguese. It is pretty particular because it makes compatible the maitenance of the traditional forest and other uses (crops and livestock, such as the Fighting bull).

The point is that its color is completely different in Spring and partially in Fall and Winter because all the grasslands get green, and Summer, where you get a nice yellow background spotted by amazing big dark green trees.
Thanks for info. Haven't been in those places yet.
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That kind of landscape is the usual in Western Spain (Extremadura, part of the provinces of Zamora, Salamanca, Toledo and Ciudad Real, Northern Andalusia) and inner part of Southern Portugal (particularlly the Alentejo region). This kind of thinned out Mediterranean forest, whose most representative trees are the cork oak (alcornoque in Spanish) and the holm oak (encina in Spanish) is named dehesa in Spanish and montado in Portuguese. It is pretty particular because it makes compatible the maitenance of the traditional forest and other uses (crops and livestock, such as the Fighting bull).
Not to forget the Iberian swines, from which they get the famous ham.
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Old May 31st, 2014, 11:44 PM   #2988
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That's true!

Cerdo de bellota (oak nut feeded pig) The best ham ever.

Yummy!
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 03:02 AM   #2989
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Anyway, Spanish expression: not to mix up fat and speed
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 01:15 AM   #2991
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Anyway, Spanish expression: not to mix up fat and speed
"The bacon with the velocity"... LOL
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Old June 21st, 2014, 11:39 AM   #2992
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Viaduct over the River Almonte in the Madrid-Extremadura-Lisbon high speed line:

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Vídeo desde un dron de la situación actual del Viaducto del Río Almonte

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Old June 24th, 2014, 06:16 PM   #2993
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Hey!

A couple of quick questions:

After the Ourense - Olmedo HSL is opened (in a couple of years) the Santiago - Ourense HSL gets converted to standart gauge.

What happens with the "Santiago - A Coruna" and the (soon to be opened) HSL stretch to Vigo? will the lines be convertet to Iberian / standart gauge or both

Last Question: What happens with A Coruna - Betanzos - Ferrol in the next years? Will it stay like today (One track, no electrification?)

Thanks!!
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Old July 21st, 2014, 07:27 PM   #2994
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Numbers of passengers keep rising on the AVE high speed lines in Spain..

http://www.02b.com/en/notices/2014/0...share_7258.php

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The number of rail travellers using high speed rail connections in Spain went up by 20.3% to 8.58 million in this year's quarter one and two. Meanwhile, the brand new silent services filled up 80% of seats during their first weeks of operation.
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Silent services? What's that? A bad translation from Spanish?
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Old July 21st, 2014, 08:59 PM   #2996
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It is mentioned in the link:
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Statistics released by Renfe has sold 14,853 tickets since these services were premiered on July, 7. It is worth noting that carriages in these rail links are dimly lit, with long mobile phone and seatmate conversations strictly prohibited.

The measure is part of a wider plan to boost demand and cater for a particular market segment. "There exists a number of passengers willing to travel in complete silence, so that they are able to work, read or relax", the launch campaign read.
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Old July 21st, 2014, 09:53 PM   #2997
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Silent services? What's that? A bad translation from Spanish?
Not at all!

Starting this month of July, in several services and trains you can book a "silent car". There will be no loudspeakers except in emergencies, mobiles are forbidden either talking loud with anyone. Light will be weak and it is set forward those people who want to sleep, peace or just work on your laptop without any disturbs.
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Old July 21st, 2014, 09:59 PM   #2998
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Ok, thanks for explanation. I guess in England you'd call them quiet carriages. Why not if there is a demand.
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There are three newness in Renfe since this month of July:

- available to pay on paypal (I am not sure if with the app it is still available but on the web you can)

- quiet seats (or "silence cars") as I explained

- door to door baggage

This last service costs 22 euro each baggage and you can carry up to three of them.
It is managed by the official Postal service but you may book in the renfe.com web and it is mandatory to have a long distance ticket.

It is not only from town to town but from any villages in the province where you arrive and the boundary provinces (by the way, in the case where I live I would be able to choose either from north of Navarra till Tarragona or Guadalajara but that's another issue).

You can book the service and before several hours your depart, Postal service will pick your baggage. You go to the railway station and you travel (you can book up to 25 kg and take a little baggage with you).
It is not mandatory to give the baggage in the station where you arrive. For instance someone can be waiting you and driving home by car after a corner to corner journey. Baggage will arrive more or less the next day in the address you have requested (it can be a house, a hotel or so on...).
And by the way, they say they add the Mallorca island (but I really do not know which provinces are boundary with Mallorca...). Anyway you can travel by train to Barcelona or Valencia and later a ferry avoiding to pick on the weighter baggage
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And as the last year, on summer an Alvia service will join twice per week north-south from Bilbao to Malaga. It takes classic line until Zaragoza and full high speed line from Zaragoza to Malaga.

Last year it didn't call at Zaragoza but had a by-pass near the village of Grisen (the usual way Pamplona/Logroño - Madrid).

But calling at Zaragoza lets people joining from another train coming from San Sebastian and Pamplona.


Train destination is Malaga but you can get off at Cordoba and shuttle to Seville if you want. Timetables are thought to make it easy.


And... obviously conversely too.
(from Malaga to Bilbao)
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