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Old July 22nd, 2014, 05:25 AM   #3001
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Are there any trains form Huesca do points beyond Zaragoza that don't call at Zaragoza Delizias?
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 09:13 AM   #3002
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I am not sure that Madrid-Huesca apply for this service.

Anyway... in quiet seats... apply for all. This is, they will not advice any incoming station and you must be awared to know where to get off

It is the last car, that one with less seats. Furthermore, no bar trolley goes there. If you wanna anything from the cafeteria you may go there.


(and all Madrid-Barcelona do not advice Zaragoza station in that car)
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Old July 28th, 2014, 08:39 PM   #3003
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Francisco José Garzón Amo, the engineer of the high speed train which crashed into a wall near Santiago de Compostela exactly a year ago, has written a public letter of apology to all victims and survivors.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 05:17 PM   #3004
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Spanish Soccer Team going Valencia

They chose the train instead of the plane...



Spanish Soccer Team going Valencia, first match with Macedonia 8-9-2014 for EuroCopa 2016.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 07:37 PM   #3005
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It has been quite, quite often to have train for football instead of plane.

In last football season, several teams choose the railway with a charter train for return journey.

this is, they usually were able to travel in a regular train and hiring a train for returning.

Timetable was according the match hour ending (and didn't apply punctuality because they could depart late if required). I am talking about trains after 01:00 on saturday night and so.

Renfe booked all business class seats for the team and sold all tourist seats with terribly fares (Madrid-Valencia could be 15 euro for instance)


And they had many trains as them...
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Old September 8th, 2014, 08:31 PM   #3006
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Late 2012 I read a daunting report about more than 20 high-speed trains from Renfe parked out of service because they had purchased many more trains than service demand warranted (ordering them before the crisis).

What is the current status of this "parked fleet"? Are there still many high-speed trains that exceed demand and stay parked on depots?
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Old September 8th, 2014, 09:04 PM   #3007
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We have talked a lot about those trains standing assumptions, but I have not seen. I think it would be more accurate to speak of graphics baggy service.

In 2015 there will be many openings lines or extension of existing, together with the input of another private operator in the line of Levante (Madrid-Valencia / Alicante / Murcia) to be rented Renfe.
In this way we hope that next year the park is quite adjusted to the needs.

Individuals should not be too much on the number of trains as they are quite small, apart from the issue of the two widths.

A greeting, and sorry for my bad English
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Old September 9th, 2014, 03:22 AM   #3008
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We have talked a lot about those trains standing assumptions, but I have not seen. I think it would be more accurate to speak of graphics baggy service.

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Individuals should not be too much on the number of trains as they are quite small, apart from the issue of the two widths.
Sorry, can you retranslate this into Spanish to me (private message or here)? I'm really lost. Just these two sentences.
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Old September 9th, 2014, 12:12 PM   #3009
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Since my English is really bad, sorry, rephrase my message in Spanish which translates to 437.001. Thank you!

Se ha hablado mucho sobre el número de trenes parados por falta de trabajo, pero yo no los he visto. Creo que sería mejor hablar de gráficos de servicio holgados.
En 2015 se abrirán nuevas líneas y se prolongarán o electrificarán otras. Además un operador privado alquilará trenes de Renfe en la línea de Levante (Madrid-Valencia/Alicante/Murcia).
De esta forma creo que para 2015 el parque de trenes se ajustará bastante a la demanda.
Tampoco es muy correcto centrarse en el número de trenes, ya que son más pequeños que la media y deben circular por dos anchos.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 01:06 AM   #3010
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Here's the translation [note: Gusiluz is an insider, so he's a source himself, and he's also one of our finest forumers. Pity that his English isn't top notch...]:

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There's been much talk about the number of idle AVE and Alvia trains, but I haven't seen them so idle.
I think it would be better to talk about 'baggy route chart'.
New lines will open or be extended or electrified by 2015. Besides, a private operator will rent trains to Renfe on the Levante HSL (Madrid to Valencia/Alicante/Murcia).
Hence, I believe that by 2015 the rolling stock will be rather adapted to the needs.
It isn't all that right to focus on the number of trains, as they're smaller and bi-gauge.

Well, Gusiluz, that's not that different to what I've been saying here for months, until I had the PC overkill.
Still, some people might think that those trains were bought too soon...
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Old September 10th, 2014, 01:16 AM   #3011
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Does Renfe have any option order with CAF for new trains?
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Old September 10th, 2014, 01:22 AM   #3012
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Does Renfe have any option order with CAF for new trains?
Some class 105 (Oaris), I believe. But I'm not sure.
Anyway, they won't be ordered anytime soon yet. Renfe can still manage with their current rolling stock, as Gusiluz said.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 01:26 AM   #3013
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related question: is lack of new RENFE orders a problem for the financial stability of CAF?
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Old September 10th, 2014, 01:28 AM   #3014
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What is meant with "baggy graphics"?
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Old September 10th, 2014, 01:31 AM   #3015
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What is meant with "baggy graphics"?
My technical English is better than his, but not Oxbridge, either...

In French it is called... oh hell. Forgot it too.

Well, it's the sum of all the paths of one line that are used. You insert the paths into... what? That.
It' s usually a graphic of the timetable, with lots of lines going up and down, which are the services (the paths), and crossing each other, and it looks as if it were a Stock Exchange sheet.
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My technical English is better than his, but not Oxbridge, either...

In French it is called... oh hell. Forgot it too.

Well, it's the sum of all the paths of one line that are used. You insert the paths into... what? That.
It' s usually a graphic of the timetable, with lots of lines going up and down, which are the services (the paths), and crossing each other, and it looks as if it were a Stock Exchange sheet.
I think I understand now what you mean, but I can't think of a proper English term either... Anyone else?
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I think I understand now what you mean, but I can't think of a proper English term either... Anyone else?
Service chart or route chart.
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related question: is lack of new RENFE orders a problem for the financial stability of CAF?
CAF is no longer heavily reliant on domestic customers as was the case in the past. They have managed to get a foothold on the international market the last 10 years or so. Still, they always have the domestic demand to rely on, and if Alstom decide to shut down their factory in Barcelona which has been under threat now for years, then CAF will most certainly get their orders to.
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CAF is in the race to supply new regional trains to the Dutch railways, the only remaining competitor is Alstom.
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