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Old July 18th, 2011, 10:17 PM   #301
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http://www.elpais.com/articulo/english/Spanish/firms/to/build/high-speed/train/to/Mecca/elpepueng/20110718elpeng_1/Ten[/url]

Spanish firms to build high-speed train to Mecca
Medina and the pilgrimage city will be linked by an AVE rail network
S. HERNÁNDEZ - Madrid - 18/07/2011

.A Spanish consortium won a lucrative contract to build an AVE rail network in Saudi Arabia to connect the city of Medina and the Muslim pilgrimage site of Mecca, according to sources with knowledge of the bid.


The cost of the project is estimated at 6.5 billion euros with 12 Spanish firms, including Adif, Talgo and Renfe, taking part in the construction, the sources said. The consortium, which is 88 percent Spanish and 12 percent Saudi, beat out competitors from China, South Korea, Germany and France.

The French were Spain's toughest competitors. President Nicolas Sarkozy had gone to Saudi Arabia to personally lobby for the contract.

Some 450 kilometers of track across the desert will be constructed to connect Medina, Mecca and the city of Jeddah. The bid, which calls for 35 high-speed trains and the maintenance of the network for 12 years, was launched in 2006 by the Saudi Rail Organization (SRO).
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Old July 20th, 2011, 12:01 AM   #302
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The tunnel-boring machine at work under the centre of Barcelona in the construction of the Barcelona-Figueres-Perpignan HSL will end its job next week, it seems.
Then the hardest part of the works will start, that is the connection of the new tunnel to the old one in Sants station, they´re going to be extremely difficult, as the train and road traffic can´t be cut in the area (too busy).
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Old July 21st, 2011, 01:38 AM   #303
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But it is a mere hypothesis, without hard data it is difficult to evaluate that.
Some "semi-hard" data on the use of some HSL in Spain (from www.ferropedia.es)

- Madrid - Barcelona
- Madrid - Andalusia
- Madrid - Valencia
- Madrid - Toledo

(pap: point to point
Corredor: all travellers of a line)

Some costs
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Old September 2nd, 2011, 10:25 PM   #304
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The catenary of the new High Speed Line between Ourense-Santiago de Compostela-La Coruña is being put in tension. It will be inaugurated by December, we believe.
That includes the beautiful viaducts you can see a few pics above.

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The remains of an ancient Roman villa have been discovered during the works of the new Sagrera station in Barcelona.
These remains won´t stop the inauguration of the Barcelona-Figueres HSL, but may delay the construction of the Sagrera station building.

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That´s all for now.
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Old September 25th, 2011, 03:28 PM   #305
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Old September 29th, 2011, 11:10 PM   #306
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The final tunnel of the Barcelona-Figueres HSL (the one under Montcada) has been bored.
Now there´s only the connection of the HSL tunnel under Barcelona to the north side of the tracks of Sants Station left, and they´ll be able to start laying the rails and the catenary and so on.

So I believe that somewhere in 2012, there´ll finally be a direct TGV/AVE Madrid-Barcelona-Paris.
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Old September 29th, 2011, 11:54 PM   #307
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Rather impossible to finish the tunnel, lay tracks, test, commission and start commercial operation within 13 months.
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Old September 30th, 2011, 12:41 PM   #308
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Rather impossible to finish the tunnel, lay tracks, test, commission and start commercial operation within 13 months.
You can bet they will rush this one, there is a hefty fine if the target of 2012 in not met.
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Old October 2nd, 2011, 05:19 AM   #309
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Rather impossible to finish the tunnel, lay tracks, test, commission and start commercial operation within 13 months.
Why, most of the line is already open and in service with trains -freight trains only for now, there´s only a few kilometers left, no more than 50, and in most of them the rails and the catenary have already been in place for several months.

It´s only a matter of electrifying the tunnels and lay tracks in the missing links, it´s not like they´ve got to electrify the whole of the line.

The date of 2012 is assured.

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Old October 10th, 2011, 06:21 PM   #310
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High Speed rail Madrid-Lerida was opened 10th October 2003.

Today it is Madrid-Barcelona and it is the Spanish line with more passengers.
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Old October 14th, 2011, 11:47 PM   #311
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What are next opening?
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Old October 15th, 2011, 02:43 AM   #312
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What are next opening?
-Ourense-Santiago de Compostela, by the end of this year.
-Albacete-Villena-Alicante, 2012.
-Barcelona-Girona-Figueres Vilafant, 2012 too.

Then...

-Villena-Xàtiva-Valencia, possibly 2013
-Olmedo-Medina del Campo-Zamora, possibly 2013/2014
-Valladolid-Venta de Baños-Palencia-León, possibly 2013/2014
-Venta de Baños-Burgos, possibly 2013/2014.

Then the rest...

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Old October 16th, 2011, 02:07 AM   #313
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High speed will not finish at Leon.
It will continue to Gijon, in the Atlantic coast, crossing a 25 km tunnel currently under construction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pajares_Base_Tunnel).
Anyway... the tunnel is advanced but not so much the connection into Leon as well as other streches so the full line Leon-Gijon will be open later.
But it is already on works.
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Old October 17th, 2011, 02:40 AM   #314
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I did not put ALL the HSLs in works, only the ones which will be opening soon or in two/three years.
I don´t think the Pjares tunnel might open in three years yet. Politicians in between, you know...
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Old October 17th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #315
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Did someone have a good map of the AVE network (current and future) ?

This one, from wikipedia, looks old and not very elaborate

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Old October 18th, 2011, 03:18 AM   #316
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Did someone have a good map of the AVE network (current and future) ?

This one, from wikipedia, looks old and not very elaborate



here:

http://mapaferrocarril.pacopaco.es/
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 02:56 PM   #317
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Greater European network on track

On 19 October, the European Commission presented its project for the integration of European transport networks. Endowed with a budget of 37.7 billion euros, it includes plans to modernise infrastructure and “rationalise cross border transport” by 2030. In individual countries, the initiative is being evaluated in terms of its national impact. In Spain, La Vanguardia leads with the front-page headline “Europe chooses the Mediterranean,” and a report on the rail corridor that will link the French-Spanish border to Algéciras in southern Spain. The daily points out that its inclusion in the trans-European transport network will provide 20% of the funding for this coastal line, which will cost an estimated 19 billion euros. That is why “the Mediterranean corridor is a victory,” explains the editorial in the Catalan daily, which notes in passing that the principle that every rail link should pass through Madrid “has been amended.” Adding that “good sense has prevailed,” La Vanguardia points out that 40% of Spains GDP is generated by the Mediterranean regions of the country.

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Old October 23rd, 2011, 11:59 PM   #318
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Quick question from the uninitiated: for the Barcelona-Paris HSR trains, are those trains direct trains, how long will the ride be, what station do they arrive at in Paris, and what are they doing about the break-of-gauge?

Thanks!
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Old October 24th, 2011, 12:12 AM   #319
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I don't know the duration of the travel, but they willa rive in Gare de Lyon and run on standard gauge thanks to the new line.
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Old October 24th, 2011, 01:11 AM   #320
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There was published on press the first forecast that included several Barcelona-Paris but also Barcelona-Lille, Barcelona-Geneve, Barcelona-Milano, Madrid-Zaragoza-Barcelona-Paris and several ones more.

It was published with daily frequencies stimated
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