SPAIN | High Speed Rail - Page 20

Aletsch · January 30th, 2012, 02:55 PM

The process to open the market to other companies has started, but I don't know why, it's too slow...
Until 2017 we won't see another company with passengers services.

***alserrod*** · January 31st, 2012, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburbanist

They should allow some private operators offering low-cost services in Spain. Trains without bars/restaurants, less toilets, restriction on how much luggage you can take it, online ticket sales only etc.

Just... take any railway in the Spanish forum, write that sentences (even in English) and you will, quickly receive answers with "+1", "+2", etc...

sekelsenmat · February 23rd, 2012, 03:00 PM

Hello, could anyone here summarize how are the construction works progressing? I am specially interrested in Badajos-Caceres, Sevilla-Granada and Santiago de Compostela-Madrid. This map says that many sections in those routes are under constructions:

http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/...-peninsula.gif

So, is the map updated? Simply all those sectors in construction? Any ideas about the plans to finish off the lines, when segments will be open, etc? thanks a lot =)

Think · February 23rd, 2012, 04:55 PM

It depends of the section.

- Badajos-Caceres: They're working, but there are in the first stages of the works.

- Sevilla-Granada: The works are going very well, some of them are near to be finish, except in two sections: the access to Seville a the Loja's bypass. They are supossed to be opened without this sections, but it isn't confirmed.

-Santiago-Madrid: Santiago-Ourense were opened in last december, Ourense-Zamora it's near to start the works and Zamora-Madrid have works in progress and are near to be finished.

jovibo · February 24th, 2012, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sekelsenmat

Hello, could anyone here summarize how are the construction works progressing? I am specially interrested in Badajos-Caceres, Sevilla-Granada and Santiago de Compostela-Madrid. This map says that many sections in those routes are under constructions:

The Alicante-Albacete section will probably open at the end of this year (so that there will be a direct service from Alicante-Madrid and viceversa).

Xoser_barcelona · February 25th, 2012, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sekelsenmat

Hello, could anyone here summarize how are the construction works progressing? I am specially interrested in Badajos-Caceres, Sevilla-Granada and Santiago de Compostela-Madrid. This map says that many sections in those routes are under constructions:

http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/...-peninsula.gif

So, is the map updated? Simply all those sectors in construction? Any ideas about the plans to finish off the lines, when segments will be open, etc? thanks a lot =)

A good map of Spain's rail infrastructure is the following one, courtesy of geotren.es: http://rfe.geotren.es/ Right mouse button to zoom in on it. Ancho means Gauge, En contruccion means Under contruction and the abbreviations DIA, EI etc. have to do with phases of the project. I think DIA means Declaracion de Impacto Ambiental (Environmental impact of the project) but other Spanish rail 'frikis' can better explain that probably.

Adpg · February 29th, 2012, 12:11 PM

***hkskyline*** · March 2nd, 2012, 04:17 PM

Malaga - Cordoba

solchante · March 5th, 2012, 06:18 PM

thanks

Xoser_barcelona · March 13th, 2012, 05:22 PM

The press here in Catalunya has reported more delays for the last stretches of the high-speed line from Barcelona to Figueres, mentioning a tentative inauguration in March 2013. The reason for the delay is that the contracts for the track laying and installation of overhead wiring have not been closed yet for both the urban stretch in Barcelona as well as Girona. The central government has promised to reduce the delays to a minimum and obviously blames the previous national government from Zapatero.

More information from el Periodico in Spanish here

solchante · March 17th, 2012, 03:50 PM

video de ADIF del megaViaducto de Archidona del eje Transversal de Andalucia

solchante · April 23rd, 2012, 03:04 PM

20 years of high speed in Spain

el palmesano · April 23rd, 2012, 10:22 PM

great video

KingNick · April 24th, 2012, 02:44 AM

I don't understand a single word, but I am deeply impressed by Spain's progress infrastructure wise over the last 20 years.

***alserrod*** · April 25th, 2012, 03:38 PM

Somethings have changed in 20 years

Some plane connections have been gone only because rail is faster (considering a trip city centre to city centre and thinking in not boarding in advance in a train)

Some people have decided to live several km. away knowing that in less than one hour they will be in city centre.

Some cities with poor connections but now with a station have grown.

If nice connections (enough trains per day to choose), most of bussiness trips are made by train and not by plane

Train is not used only to travel corner to corner... people start thinking in connections only 150 km or similar as well as commuter trains.

But... there are still too many things to do. In 1992 the railway in Spain was awful. Today we have a luxurious service in some ways but an awful services in other ways.

***neuromancer*** · April 25th, 2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoltan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/capitan...in/photostream
image hosted on flickr

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoltan

image hosted on flickr

Diesel powered hybrid high speed train Talgo.

zoltan · April 25th, 2012, 04:07 PM

25kV 50Hz AC: 250 km/h
3kV DC: 220 km/h
Diesel: 180 km/h

gramercy · April 25th, 2012, 04:48 PM

is it also variable gauge? where will they use them?

***alserrod*** · April 25th, 2012, 08:24 PM

I think it is for Madrid-La Coruña and Madrid-Vigo.

Last year they opened Orense-Santiago-La Coruña as high speed but the gauge is Spanish. It is ready to be changed in any time to international gauge but until they will have connection with the rest of the network, only Spanish gauge.

So a Madrid-La Coruña will run Madrid-Medina del campo in High speed line and international gauge, Medina-Orense in Spanish gauge and normal line and finnally Orense-La Coruña in Spanish gauge but high speed line.

This line is under construction and as far as they will arrive to Orense, the gauge until La Coruña will be changed to international one.

gramercy · April 26th, 2012, 10:26 AM

thx

awesome progress for the last 20 years, the result of clever economic policies
i hope poland will be like this in less than 20 years, although there are two differences: 1, while spain had a non-existent railway network polands traditional network is really dense and good (comparatively) and 2, smaller distances

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Xoser_barcelona Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Barcelona/Amsterdam Posts: 69 Likes (Received): 6	More delays for the Barcelona - Figueres High-speed line The press here in Catalunya has reported more delays for the last stretches of the high-speed line from Barcelona to Figueres, mentioning a tentative inauguration in March 2013. The reason for the delay is that the contracts for the track laying and installation of overhead wiring have not been closed yet for both the urban stretch in Barcelona as well as Girona. The central government has promised to reduce the delays to a minimum and obviously blames the previous national government from Zapatero. More information from el Periodico in Spanish here

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January 30th, 2012, 02:55 PM	#381
Aletsch Aprendiendo Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: A Coruña Posts: 987 Likes (Received): 1	The process to open the market to other companies has started, but I don't know why, it's too slow... Until 2017 we won't see another company with passengers services.

February 23rd, 2012, 04:55 PM	#384
Think ...or not to be... Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,286 Likes (Received): 58	It depends of the section. - Badajos-Caceres: They're working, but there are in the first stages of the works. - Sevilla-Granada: The works are going very well, some of them are near to be finish, except in two sections: the access to Seville a the Loja's bypass. They are supossed to be opened without this sections, but it isn't confirmed. -Santiago-Madrid: Santiago-Ourense were opened in last december, Ourense-Zamora it's near to start the works and Zamora-Madrid have works in progress and are near to be finished.

March 5th, 2012, 06:18 PM	#389
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March 17th, 2012, 03:50 PM	#391
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April 23rd, 2012, 03:04 PM	#392
solchante Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Granada,España Posts: 513 Likes (Received): 71	20 years of high speed in Spain

April 24th, 2012, 02:44 AM	#394
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April 25th, 2012, 03:38 PM	#395
*alserrod* Alejandro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Zaragoza Posts: 27,500	Somethings have changed in 20 years Some plane connections have been gone only because rail is faster (considering a trip city centre to city centre and thinking in not boarding in advance in a train) Some people have decided to live several km. away knowing that in less than one hour they will be in city centre. Some cities with poor connections but now with a station have grown. If nice connections (enough trains per day to choose), most of bussiness trips are made by train and not by plane Train is not used only to travel corner to corner... people start thinking in connections only 150 km or similar as well as commuter trains. But... there are still too many things to do. In 1992 the railway in Spain was awful. Today we have a luxurious service in some ways but an awful services in other ways. __________________ "Tú en a pizarra yes, y os que cantan son ers: ninos y ninas, simiéns de l'aragonés" (Trango dople y china chana, La Ronda de Boltaña) "Tenim a la boca un arma és la llengua de Moncada, llengua que ens va servir per xerrar a la nostra casa." (Molt de Soroll, Ixo Rai!)

April 25th, 2012, 04:07 PM	#397
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April 25th, 2012, 08:24 PM	#399
*alserrod* Alejandro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Zaragoza Posts: 27,500	I think it is for Madrid-La Coruña and Madrid-Vigo. Last year they opened Orense-Santiago-La Coruña as high speed but the gauge is Spanish. It is ready to be changed in any time to international gauge but until they will have connection with the rest of the network, only Spanish gauge. So a Madrid-La Coruña will run Madrid-Medina del campo in High speed line and international gauge, Medina-Orense in Spanish gauge and normal line and finnally Orense-La Coruña in Spanish gauge but high speed line. This line is under construction and as far as they will arrive to Orense, the gauge until La Coruña will be changed to international one. __________________ "Tú en a pizarra yes, y os que cantan son ers: ninos y ninas, simiéns de l'aragonés" (Trango dople y china chana, La Ronda de Boltaña) "Tenim a la boca un arma és la llengua de Moncada, llengua que ens va servir per xerrar a la nostra casa." (Molt de Soroll, Ixo Rai!)

April 26th, 2012, 10:26 AM	#400
gramercy spaghetti cat Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,904 Likes (Received): 159	thx awesome progress for the last 20 years, the result of clever economic policies i hope poland will be like this in less than 20 years, although there are two differences: 1, while spain had a non-existent railway network polands traditional network is really dense and good (comparatively) and 2, smaller distances __________________ sorting through the myriad of primitive meme-vectors to find those rare and fleeting moments of true clarity and nobility So now Permission to be, permission to slow And do the only things that matter to me The freedom to flow to where genuine flows And do the only things that matter to me thank god for The Guardian

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