SPAIN | High Speed Rail - Page 6

Messi · November 9th, 2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by arriaca

Spain uses technology German, French and other countries as well as developing its own technology. You should know better.

In fact, the wording of the draft HSL California is going to make a Spanish company (Ineco - Typsa).

Siemenes developing an evolution of the ICE for Renfe, faster and more powerful than the German ICE.

Does CAF also use German technology for its highspeed trains and what about Talgo?

arriaca · November 10th, 2008, 11:35 AM

No, the CAF and Talgo HST, do not use German technology.

Bitxofo · November 12th, 2008, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JoFMO

No, its Barcelona Francia, "French Station". The main station is Barcelona Sants, a rather ugly underground station.

Estació de França, which means France Station.

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Originally Posted by Kuvvaci

why its name is like this, because of its destinations to France?

Because trains to French border left from that station until 1991. Now TALGO (train-hotel) from Barcelona to Paris departs from Estació de França.

France Station is one of the most beautiful old stations in Europe!

Thanks for the photos ARRi!

amagaldu · November 13th, 2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bitxofo

France Station is one of the most beautiful old stations in Europe!

proofs..!!

arriaca · November 13th, 2008, 06:46 PM

This was the main station for trains to and from the north and northwest of Spain.

After the construction of Chamartin, became Suburban Station, and now is one of five interchanges, where people entering or leaving Madrid, can change their mode of transport, since that match the train station, with The three Metro lines and a new intercity bus station...

And a shopping mall

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Suburban train station

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Tunnel to Atocha Station

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Railway bridge over the Metro station

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Metro station

Under the Railway station run the Metro

Railway bridge and Metro station (lines 6 and 10)

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Shopping mall

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Bus station

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Kuvvaci · November 14th, 2008, 01:15 PM

very nice station... access to the bus station is very nice... was the mall a part of the station in the past?

arriaca · November 15th, 2008, 08:29 PM

The shopping center occupies a portion of the platforms and tracks of the station which is no longer used

arriaca · November 15th, 2008, 08:42 PM

Railway network

ADIF (Administrador de Infraestructuras ferroviarias) is the railway transport authority in Spain, except narrow gauge and the lines that manage regional governments.

Spanish railway network (2005)

Railway lines (km):

High Speed lines: 953,07 Km

Iberian gauge: 12.164,56 Km

TOTAL: 13.117,63 Km

Equipment:

Electrified single track: 3.656,8 Km.

No electrified single track: 5.517,9 Km.

Electrified double track: 3.913 Km.

Non electrified double track: 29,9 Km.

Source and more info about signaling: http://www.adif.es/empresa/index_circulacion.html

gincan · November 16th, 2008, 02:48 PM

That's old data, you find newer data in the 2008 network statement pdf.

High Speed Network (International Gauge) 1563km
Conventional Network (Conventional Gauge) 11,736km
Mixed Network (Conventional - International Gauge) 21km
Narrow Gauge Network (Metric Gauge) 18km

Single Electrified Track 3,601km
Non Electrified Single Track 5,210km
Double Electrified Track 4,450km
Non Double Electrified Track 56 (actually 67km as of now, all on the future Galician HSR axis)

Speed equal to or over 250 km/h 1247km
Speed between 200 km/h and 250 km/h 487km
Speed between 160 and 200 km/h 215km
Speed between 140 and 160 km/h 4,725km
Speed between 100 and 140 km/h 3,601km
Speed less than 100 km/h 3,063km

Kuvvaci · November 18th, 2008, 08:08 PM

could you please post more station photos?..

Bitxofo · November 18th, 2008, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gincan

That's old data, you find newer data in the 2008 network statement pdf.

High Speed Network (International Gauge) 1563km
Conventional Network (Conventional Gauge) 11,736km
Mixed Network (Conventional - International Gauge) 21km
Narrow Gauge Network (Metric Gauge) 18km

Single Electrified Track 3,601km
Non Electrified Single Track 5,210km
Double Electrified Track 4,450km
Non Double Electrified Track 56 (actually 67km as of now, all on the future Galician HSR axis)

Speed equal to or over 250 km/h 1247km
Speed between 200 km/h and 250 km/h 487km
Speed between 160 and 200 km/h 215km
Speed between 140 and 160 km/h 4,725km
Speed between 100 and 140 km/h 3,601km
Speed less than 100 km/h 3,063km

TOTAL: 13,338 km. of railways in Spain.

arriaca · November 18th, 2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuvvaci

could you please post more station photos?..

Ok

Sigüenza (Guadalajara)

A beautifull station and village. Line Madrid - Barcelona - Francia

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Kuvvaci · November 19th, 2008, 04:27 PM

very nice... I like such stations.

arriaca · November 19th, 2008, 10:30 PM

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Canfranc Estación

This small village (altitude 1190 m.) was largely created due to the inauguration of a railroad crossing the Pyrenees on 18 July 1928. The trains continued running until an international train accident destroyed the bridge at nearby L'Estanguet and severed the link on March 27, 1970. Canfranc Estación is most well known due to the rumours of "German gold" arriving here during World War II (see external link below). Also, British espionage smuggled information and people from Vichy France to the consulate in San Sebastián through Canfranc since the nearer Irún bordered with occupied France. The train station is the highlight of the village and was used during the filming of Doctor Zhivago. There has been talk for some time of reopening international train traffic between France and Spain, but until that time the area is profiting from its nearness to the ski resorts of Candanchú and Astún. The current population is 454.

The tunnel is being used for the Laboratorio subterráneo de Canfranc (Canfranc underground laboratory).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canfranc

It is located in the Pyrenees, near the French border. And is connected to the network by a French railroad tunnel UIC gauge which is now closed and used as a laboratory.

Both the French and the Spanish railway line are single track, in different width and the French side was electrified.

In Canfranc, there was the transhipment of passengers, trains were divided into wide UIC beside the main building of this ibérico and width on the east side. In the main building, in addition to sell tickets and be located the passport office had a luxury hotel.

Since the closure of the line from the French side, the station just dying with a few train services.

arriaca · November 19th, 2008, 10:48 PM

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Río Aragón and the station

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arriaca · November 19th, 2008, 10:52 PM

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arriaca · November 19th, 2008, 10:55 PM

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arriaca · November 19th, 2008, 11:02 PM

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The building actually

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amagaldu · November 20th, 2008, 03:06 AM

wow..!!

incredible the contrast between the spanish and the french side..

Kuvvaci · November 20th, 2008, 10:24 AM

stunning, abolutelly stunning..

why it is not restorated. It is a dimond, I'd like to be there!

November 10th, 2008, 11:35 AM	#102
arriaca Caminante no hay camino.. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,837 Likes (Received): 36	No, the CAF and Talgo HST, do not use German technology. __________________ El Toro de la Vega - Fiesta de Interés Turístico de España Fiesta de los Toros - Bien de Interés Cultural Last edited by arriaca; November 10th, 2008 at 11:43 AM.

November 13th, 2008, 06:46 PM	#105
arriaca Caminante no hay camino.. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,837 Likes (Received): 36	Príncipe Pío (Madrid) This was the main station for trains to and from the north and northwest of Spain. After the construction of Chamartin, became Suburban Station, and now is one of five interchanges, where people entering or leaving Madrid, can change their mode of transport, since that match the train station, with The three Metro lines and a new intercity bus station... And a shopping mall image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr Suburban train station image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr Tunnel to Atocha Station image hosted on flickr Railway bridge over the Metro station image hosted on flickr Metro station Under the Railway station run the Metro Railway bridge and Metro station (lines 6 and 10) image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr Shopping mall image hosted on flickr Bus station image hosted on flickr __________________ El Toro de la Vega - Fiesta de Interés Turístico de España Fiesta de los Toros - Bien de Interés Cultural

November 14th, 2008, 01:15 PM	#106
Kuvvaci Strange User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Istanbul Posts: 20,047 Likes (Received): 26	very nice station... access to the bus station is very nice... was the mall a part of the station in the past? __________________ Turkey Railways Development /High Speed Rail Turkish Airports /Aviation

November 15th, 2008, 08:29 PM	#107
arriaca Caminante no hay camino.. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,837 Likes (Received): 36	The shopping center occupies a portion of the platforms and tracks of the station which is no longer used __________________ El Toro de la Vega - Fiesta de Interés Turístico de España Fiesta de los Toros - Bien de Interés Cultural

November 15th, 2008, 08:42 PM	#108
arriaca Caminante no hay camino.. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,837 Likes (Received): 36	Railway network ADIF (Administrador de Infraestructuras ferroviarias) is the railway transport authority in Spain, except narrow gauge and the lines that manage regional governments. Spanish railway network (2005) Railway lines (km): High Speed lines: 953,07 Km Iberian gauge: 12.164,56 Km TOTAL: 13.117,63 Km Equipment: Electrified single track: 3.656,8 Km. No electrified single track: 5.517,9 Km. Electrified double track: 3.913 Km. Non electrified double track: 29,9 Km. Source and more info about signaling: http://www.adif.es/empresa/index_circulacion.html __________________ El Toro de la Vega - Fiesta de Interés Turístico de España Fiesta de los Toros - Bien de Interés Cultural

November 16th, 2008, 02:48 PM	#109
gincan Gincan Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 563 Likes (Received): 7	That's old data, you find newer data in the 2008 network statement pdf. High Speed Network (International Gauge) 1563km Conventional Network (Conventional Gauge) 11,736km Mixed Network (Conventional - International Gauge) 21km Narrow Gauge Network (Metric Gauge) 18km Single Electrified Track 3,601km Non Electrified Single Track 5,210km Double Electrified Track 4,450km Non Double Electrified Track 56 (actually 67km as of now, all on the future Galician HSR axis) Speed equal to or over 250 km/h 1247km Speed between 200 km/h and 250 km/h 487km Speed between 160 and 200 km/h 215km Speed between 140 and 160 km/h 4,725km Speed between 100 and 140 km/h 3,601km Speed less than 100 km/h 3,063km

November 18th, 2008, 08:08 PM	#110
Kuvvaci Strange User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Istanbul Posts: 20,047 Likes (Received): 26	could you please post more station photos?.. __________________ Turkey Railways Development /High Speed Rail Turkish Airports /Aviation

November 19th, 2008, 04:27 PM	#113
Kuvvaci Strange User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Istanbul Posts: 20,047 Likes (Received): 26	very nice... I like such stations. __________________ Turkey Railways Development /High Speed Rail Turkish Airports /Aviation

November 19th, 2008, 10:48 PM	#115
arriaca Caminante no hay camino.. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,837 Likes (Received): 36	image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr Río Aragón and the station image hosted on flickr By flickr __________________ El Toro de la Vega - Fiesta de Interés Turístico de España Fiesta de los Toros - Bien de Interés Cultural Last edited by arriaca; November 19th, 2008 at 11:03 PM.

November 19th, 2008, 10:52 PM	#116
arriaca Caminante no hay camino.. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,837 Likes (Received): 36	image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr By flickr __________________ El Toro de la Vega - Fiesta de Interés Turístico de España Fiesta de los Toros - Bien de Interés Cultural Last edited by arriaca; November 19th, 2008 at 11:03 PM.

November 19th, 2008, 10:55 PM	#117
arriaca Caminante no hay camino.. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,837 Likes (Received): 36	The French side image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr By flickr __________________ El Toro de la Vega - Fiesta de Interés Turístico de España Fiesta de los Toros - Bien de Interés Cultural Last edited by arriaca; November 19th, 2008 at 11:03 PM.

November 19th, 2008, 11:02 PM	#118
arriaca Caminante no hay camino.. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,837 Likes (Received): 36	Building passengers and the hotel image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr The building actually image hosted on flickr By flickr __________________ El Toro de la Vega - Fiesta de Interés Turístico de España Fiesta de los Toros - Bien de Interés Cultural

November 20th, 2008, 03:06 AM	#119
amagaldu Registered (trade) User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 2,830 Likes (Received): 3	wow..!! incredible the contrast between the spanish and the french side..

November 20th, 2008, 10:24 AM	#120
Kuvvaci Strange User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Istanbul Posts: 20,047 Likes (Received): 26	stunning, abolutelly stunning.. why it is not restorated. It is a dimond, I'd like to be there! __________________ Turkey Railways Development /High Speed Rail Turkish Airports /Aviation

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