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Old August 8th, 2007, 05:57 PM   #121
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That is the top speed the train can reach.
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Old August 8th, 2007, 06:16 PM   #122
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Really, the objectif has always been link Madrid and Barcelona in 2 hours 30 minutes. It can be get with slower speed, and probably top speed will be used only to avoid delays -I think it happens also in Mediterranean HSL in France with the top speed of 320 kph-.
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Old August 8th, 2007, 07:24 PM   #123
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All young people (under 36y.o.) speak English in BCN or Madrid.
This is NOT true !
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Old August 9th, 2007, 03:40 PM   #124
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Well back in April I did this route, took 4 hours, but felt shorter, because it was so comfortable and the scenery was good. I went in preferent class (1st) Very nice. It's just so wierd to think that the time will practically be cut in half, the annoying part was when it was close to Barcelona, it had to go on suburban rail lines, and there was traffic etc.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 03:45 PM   #125
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All young people (under 36y.o.) speak English in BCN or Madrid.
That's definitely not true... hehe, I want to encourage people to visit Spain as much as you do, but come on, who were you trying to fool...
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Old August 10th, 2007, 03:05 AM   #126
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All young people in Spain studied English at Elemental School, so they are able to speak English.
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Yo si la ciudad no tiene metro, como que no es gran ciudad y entonces ya paso de vivir allí. Norreport+12000
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Old August 10th, 2007, 04:46 AM   #127
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I was in Spain last April for 5 weeks. The only people I heard speak english were Americans, Canadians and the British.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 09:25 AM   #128
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All young people in Spain studied English at Elemental School, so they are able to speak English.
I studied Japanese in Primary school here, and I hardly speak it.

the very few times I heard english (in spain), was from tourists or some spaniards with strong accents.

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Old August 10th, 2007, 11:16 AM   #129
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Sometimes I think you live in your own little bubble. Please stop saying that, everyone knows it's false, including yourself.
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Old July 24th, 2008, 04:02 AM   #130
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Will Spanish Velaro E speed up to 350km/h?

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I have read some posts on this forum ,and know the Velaro E is now running at 300km/h in highspeed line. I just wonder if this train will speed up to 350km/h in near future.
By far no train is running at 350km/h commercially.Has Siemens or RENFE tested the reliability and durability of the train's equp,like bogies,motors etc. at 350km/h?
And the Velaro E takes 380s to accelerate from 0 to 320km/h.what about 0 to 350km/h,how long will it take?
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Old July 24th, 2008, 04:17 AM   #131
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Velaro (made by Siemens) is currently running at 302km/h on the high speed line from Barcelona to Madrid.

It will run at 350km/h in October or November, on the same line.

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川添 Kawazoe (riverside) 海斗 Kaito (big dipper of the ocean), in Japanese.
Yo si la ciudad no tiene metro, como que no es gran ciudad y entonces ya paso de vivir allí. Norreport+12000

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Old July 24th, 2008, 10:26 AM   #132
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It won't go faster until ERTMS level 2 is implemented. Although Renfe says it will be in autumn, the team developing the signaling system (people from Renfe, Adif and Siemens) say the don't have a definitve date yet.
Anyway, test trains running on the Madrid-Zaragoza-Barcelona have already reached 360 km/h.
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Old July 24th, 2008, 01:30 PM   #133
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Hi,guys
I have read some posts on this forum ,and know the Velaro E is now running at 300km/h in highspeed line. I just wonder if this train will speed up to 350km/h in near future.
By far no train is running at 350km/h commercially.Has Siemens or RENFE tested the reliability and durability of the train's equp,like bogies,motors etc. at 350km/h?
And the Velaro E takes 380s to accelerate from 0 to 320km/h.what about 0 to 350km/h,how long will it take?
The Velaro has been tested above 400km/h and its record it 408km/h. The bogies are fine for it, but I don't believe the design (for a stable maintenance regime) is ready for more than 330km/h in regular service, though I could be wrong. The main delay is the full implementation of the signalling system as Avientu said above.

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Old July 24th, 2008, 01:37 PM   #134
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I talked with Siemens engineers who did the tests of the train. They said that ADIF who was forbidden to increase that speed. The train can run more. Even in commercial service. But there are two problems: the signage and the flight of stone
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Old July 24th, 2008, 04:12 PM   #135
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The stone on the track is quite a big problem .
So the new track building in our country is just like the picture below,which will make speed higher. pic copyright to oyzw.
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Old July 24th, 2008, 05:55 PM   #136
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Excuse my ignorance but, What´s exactly that "flight of stone" you guys talk about?

thanks in advance

BTW: clkgtr, no pic on display above, just a red cross.
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Old July 24th, 2008, 06:32 PM   #137
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air turbulance causing loose stones to be picked up and thrown at quite dangerous speeds. the new chinese lines don't use loose stone ballast so shouldn't have this problem - everything is solod concrete, which is more expensive in theory.
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Old July 24th, 2008, 06:56 PM   #138
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ahh, i see. thanks.
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Old July 24th, 2008, 10:22 PM   #139
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air turbulance causing loose stones to be picked up and thrown at quite dangerous speeds. the new chinese lines don't use loose stone ballast so shouldn't have this problem - everything is solod concrete, which is more expensive in theory.
The chinese use the japanese system for high speed, this system was designed in the 80´s
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Old July 25th, 2008, 12:16 AM   #140
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Wouldn't the problem be solved with something as easy as covering the stones with a simple net?
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