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Old July 5th, 2013, 08:15 PM   #1381
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Sorry cannot find the source of the newspaper.
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Old July 5th, 2013, 08:36 PM   #1382
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According to those statistics... let's remember that Spanair does not exist any more...
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Old July 6th, 2013, 06:48 PM   #1383
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More about the Basque "Y".

Some viaducts () on the Vitoria to Bilbao branch:

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Works on the Vitoria to San Sebastian-Donostia branch:

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The other end of the tunnel on the pics just above:

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Old July 6th, 2013, 06:57 PM   #1384
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HSL Valladolid-Venta de Baños-Burgos.

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Venta de Baños 02-July-2013

On the road, stop near Cavia to take this picture of the area where a tunnel must be bored.
As you can appreciate, nothing´s been done since last year. The mountain is still complete:





I guess that the tunnel mouth will have to be approximately at the level of the yellow point, as otherwise the movement of land would have to be enormous. Anyway, loads of land will have to be moved.
As a reference of the size and scale of the image, the yellow arrow shows a van that was there:





Next stop has been Quintana del Puente. The sector between this town and Torquemada is a long alignment parallel to the Imperial [note: the classic line Madrid-Avila-Valladolid-Burgos-Vitoria-Hendaye]. This sector, which is finished, has been the one with the lowest cost per kilometer (around 2 million € per kilometer) of all the ones started in this century. The reason to stop there was to take a pic of the Alvia Madrid-Hendaye/Bilbao and the IC Vitoria-Madrid. For a few moments I haven´t crossed them on the long alignment.

The Alvia, served with a double compo of S-120.050:





The IC with an S-449 that for an unknown reason stopped for a few minutes at Quintana del Puente station (which can be seen on the pic):









Once the trains gone, I went straight into Venta de Baños. Shortly before arriving, I stopped next to what will end up being the Palencia-Burgos branch viaduct, shortly before the Cementos Hontoria factory. Little can be seen now. They´ve done some preliminary work (to be seen later) and right now activity is focussed on the start of the viaduct on the Palencia side, the one beyond the motorway:










At Venta de Baños station, looking toward Palencia (left), and Burgos (ahead).
We can see the HSL platform finished, waiting for rails, electrification and signalling:






At the center, the future Burgos tracks, at the sides, the future Palencia tracks:








Looking to the other side, we see the station:





As it´s been explained on other occasions, the central platform will be used at one end by the classic trains in Iberian gauge, and at the other end but slightly displaced, by the HSL:





The other walkway, next to the station building:





We meet again the IC Vitoria-Madrid:







Shortly after, the Alvia Gijon-Cadiz:





At the station itself, we see the HSL platform. The strip of land in front looks like a future dead-end track:







The "broken" platform:






The station is now compressed by this concrete wall that limits the space of the HSL. I guess that later they´ll install a fence like opposite:






The underpass and the upper walkway. It might seem strange, but the upper walkway is only for pedestrians from the street, it´s not part of the station:





Looking towards Valladolid and Madrid:







The two lines for Valladolid, on the left the HSL, and on the right, the Imperial [note: the classic line]:














Looking towards Venta de Baños station:

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Old July 6th, 2013, 06:58 PM   #1385
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Basque Y is one of the most espectacular infraestructures made in Spain. Perhaps doesn't have the longest tunnels in Spain like Pajares or Guadarrama, but we are speaking about an infraestructure that has more than 60% of it's itinerary underground or in viaducts. In Gipuzkoa that percentage rises to 66%.

Unfortunately Basque Y is suffering lack of money and we don't know when this basic infraestructure for the Basque Country and Spain will finish. Perhaps in 2018-2019.
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Is it true that the Spanish Army has to guard certain worksites because of threats by the terrorists of ETA?
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Old July 6th, 2013, 11:05 PM   #1387
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Is it true that the Spanish Army has to guard certain worksites because of threats by the terrorists of ETA?
Not anymore. But it had to in the past. There were attacks to the working sites. ETA has now ceased armed activities. Or so we hope.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 12:29 AM   #1388
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HSL Madrid-Badajoz-(Lisbon).

Pictures of the Cañaveral viaduct, located between Plasencia and Cáceres.

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Impressive. Thanks for sharing
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Old July 7th, 2013, 01:38 AM   #1390
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It is a quite strange this project.

Portugal government has decided to stop it for a long while.
Spanish government keeps on, at least in some streches.

The Badajoz station will be international (Badajoz is a province capital and city centre is located just 4 km away from the border).
Platforms and building are supossed to be in Spain but part of parking in Portugal.

The freight terminal would be about 15 km or so far away inside Portugal.


With these projects and not having works in the Portuguese side what they can get is to approach to Badajoz and make a link to the current station.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 03:02 AM   #1391
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Yes its true in part. But remember portugese gov said they will make a line for freight and passengers. This line could should accept 200-250 km/h for passengers and freight too but slower. Of course line wont start any time soon (+2015 if very optimistic) thats one of the reasons why spanish gov is going to open one track without electrification. But important features of the future double track line must be built to allow this diesel services and so in the future when adapting to 25 KV and double track it wont take several years to complete the work.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 02:21 PM   #1392
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Someone asked about the HSL Madrid-Barcelona (point to point) over other transports (excluiding car).

Today a local newspaper writes that 58% for the train


And ten years ago it was the most frequent air link within the world
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Old July 13th, 2013, 05:09 AM   #1393
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HSL Atlantic Corridor (Coruña-Santiago-Vigo). It is an appendix for the Madrid-Santiago HSL.

Pictures of the works of the new Vigo-Urzaiz station.

It is located where the old Vigo-Urzaiz station was. It had always been the Vigo passengers station, until it was decided that it would be the HSR station.

Then Adif had to upgrade the freight station Vigo-Guixar (not very far away from there, but on the sea front) for mixed use passenger/freight.

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New AVE service Alicante-Madrid-Zaragoza.

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Why does the northbound train spends 29 minutes idling in Atocha?
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Maybe to wait for a gren light or that stuff. This is, two lines and looking for free lane.

Former Malaga Barcelona calling at Madrid waited for 48 minutes. If it was punctuel it was easier to take off and take on with another ticket in the previous train
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HSL Atlantic Corridor (Coruña-Santiago-Vigo). It is an appendix for the Madrid-Santiago HSL.

Pictures of the works of the new Vigo-Urzaiz station.

It is located where the old Vigo-Urzaiz station was. It had always been the Vigo passengers station, until it was decided that it would be the HSR station.

Then Adif had to upgrade the freight station Vigo-Guixar (not very far away from there, but on the sea front) for mixed use passenger/freight.
One major inconvenience in Vigo (when I was there last year) is that the main bus station is not near the city centre, and not near the railway station either. Will this change in the future? Building a new railway terminal should be a good opportunity to improve the interchange between the different modes.
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Basque Y is one of the most espectacular infraestructures made in Spain. Perhaps doesn't have the longest tunnels in Spain like Pajares or Guadarrama, but we are speaking about an infraestructure that has more than 60% of it's itinerary underground or in viaducts. In Gipuzkoa that percentage rises to 66%.

Unfortunately Basque Y is suffering lack of money and we don't know when this basic infraestructure for the Basque Country and Spain will finish. Perhaps in 2018-2019.
Thought that basque country was´nt impacted by spanish economic crisis...
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Thought that basque country was´nt impacted by spanish economic crisis...
It was impacted but not as much as other regions, however spanish goverment is responsible for the construction of bilbao vitoria branch therefore its affected by spanish economic output...
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I assume that for any foreing citizen, trying to understand the administration in Spain can be a nightmare.

All regions have an autonomous government and for several topics have full power to decide. They can be more or less topics... but they have.

Basque country is the one with more topics and in the case of infrastructure it includes almost all except:

- Airports
- The tolled motorway AP-68 (it crosses five regions)
- conventional railway (there is no stretch completely within Basque country). Btw, the one-metre railway is Basque management until Bilbao
- HSL in construction
- and... I do not know wether about the harbours



So.... nothing related to Basque country although it is there. The line is being built with the general Spanish budget.

(I know.... a nightmare to be understood....)
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