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Old May 19th, 2009, 04:45 PM   #81
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yep the best thing about the Rhein-Ruhr is the very extensive public transport network, u can go almost everywhere by train or tram, which is just amazing for someone like me who comes from a city with only 1million people and we've only got; 1 tram line and a few diesel rail lines with track hasnt been replaced for over 40 years.

and with some of those underground stations, i wouldnt be surprised if the public transport network itself is considered a tourist attraction.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 01:21 AM   #82
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I agree. Fortunately the Rhine-Ruhr system is very diverse and has wide metro-like lightrails as well as narrow little trams. What makes the few small trams somewhat dominant among the photos is the fact that they recently got a handful of architecturally very interesting stations in Bochum.

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And these stations are future Stadtbahn stations. Stadtbahn is not completed yet that's the reason why these stations are used by tram at the moment.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 04:20 PM   #83
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But I doubt the Stadtbahn will every be completed.

It's quite funny how out-of-date city maps can be in this respect. The most recent ADAC map of Gelsenkirchen still shows the tunnel from Hauptbahnhof to Ückendorfer Platz as "under construction", just like the tunnel from Trinenkamp to Erle Forsthaus.
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But I doubt the Stadtbahn will every be completed.

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Future will tell.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 09:12 PM   #85
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Now I will show you photos of some regional trains. First in Essen Hbf.

RB40 operated by Abellio to Hagen Hbf. (train: Flirt):

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/abellio-rail-nrw-143471.jpg[/IMG]

RE14 to Borken operated by NordWestBahn (train: Talent):

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/nordwestbahn-nwb-90281.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/br-643-talent-248975.jpg[/IMG]

RE2 to Münster operated by Deutsche Bahn (loco: class 146):

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/essen-89725.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/br-146-lokportaits-149551.jpg[/IMG]

Regional train at platform 4:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/doppelstock-steuerwagen-3-gattung-53706.jpg[/IMG]

Essen Hbf. from above:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/essen-36420.jpg[/IMG]
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Old May 21st, 2009, 08:32 PM   #86
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More regional trains, now: Dortmund Hbf.

Flirt of Eurobahn:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/dortmund-hbf-294468.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/dortmund-hbf-294200.jpg[/IMG]

Talent of Prignitzer Eisenbahn:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/br-643-talent-294198.jpg[/IMG]

Class 146 of DB:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/dortmund-hbf-294197.jpg[/IMG]

Talent of NordWestBahn:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/br-643-talent-287328.jpg[/IMG]

LINT 27 of DB:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/dortmund-hbf-287327.jpg[/IMG]

LINT 41 of DB:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/br-648-lint-41-db-180586.jpg[/IMG]

EMU class 425 and loco class 111 of DB:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/dortmund-hbf-274521.jpg[/IMG]

DMU class 624 and loco class 141 of DB:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/dortmund-hbf-266898.jpg[/IMG]
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Old May 21st, 2009, 11:02 PM   #87
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Me too, can somebody put here, also photos of classical trams, buses. Is it possible to put here photos of system that do not exist now, like trolleys etc.




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Old May 22nd, 2009, 09:01 PM   #88
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Tram crash after a football match at Schalke (1997)
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 04:47 PM   #89
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Regional trains in Duisburg Hbf.

Class 146 with double deckers:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/duisburg-114675.jpg[/IMG]

Double deck steering car, in the background Talent DMU and double deck regional train:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/duisburg-72311.jpg[/IMG]
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 05:00 PM   #90
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Regional trains in Düsseldorf.

Class 146 at the airport:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/duesseldorf-alle-bahnhoefe-293268.jpg[/IMG]

Class 111 at Düsseldorf Hbf.:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/br-111-lokportraits-258574.jpg[/IMG]

N-wagon in Düsseldorf Hbf.:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/duesseldorf-alle-bahnhoefe-247676.jpg[/IMG]

Class 628 and class 111 in Düsseldorf Hbf.:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/br-628---928--629-239836.jpg[/IMG]

Class 110 approaches Düsseldorf Hbf.:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/br-110-buegelfalte-212268.jpg[/IMG]

Class 643 in Düsseldorf Hbf.:

[IMG]http://www.**************/bilder/br-643-talent-210965.jpg[/IMG]
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 06:08 PM   #91
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Thanks, I love those Conurbations like Silesia or Danzig and Gdynia, but in the difference to Rhine-Ruhr they were unificated by the communst goverment, and there don't have such variety of diffrent systems.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 07:32 PM   #92
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Some Buses of the Rhine-Ruhr agglomeration.

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Solingen, trolley bus:







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City express bus of Wuppertal in Solingen:





Wuppertal, city bus at Wuppertal Hbf.:







Wuppertal, regional bus at Wuppertal Hbf.:



Regional express bus of Ennepe-Ruhr at Wuppertal Hbf.:




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Old May 24th, 2009, 03:36 PM   #93
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Let me ask one more thing, that bothers me. Is there any kind of joined transit ticket? You know that allows You to travel along many cities?
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Old May 24th, 2009, 03:39 PM   #94
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More buses of Rhein-Ruhr.

Düsseldorf city bus:


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Düsseldorf International (Rhein-Ruhr-Airport), city bus:


duesseldorf-international.de

Düsseldorf, Jan-Wellem-Platz, regional bus:



Düsseldorf, Jan-Wellem-Platz, city bus:



Düsseldorf, Jan-Wellem-Platz, city bus, driving school:


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Old May 24th, 2009, 04:39 PM   #95
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Let me ask one more thing, that bothers me. Is there any kind of joined transit ticket? You know that allows You to travel along many cities?
Yes and no. Luckily, not every city has its own transit tickets. However, in the Rhine-Ruhr region there are still five different tickets:

First, there is the VRR tariff. It covers most of the Ruhr Area, plus Düsseldorf, Wuppertal, Mönchengladbach and their surroundings.

Then, there is the VRS tariff. It covers Cologne, Bonn and their surroundings.

Then, there is VGN tariff. It covers the area from suburbs of Duisburg (Dinslaken, Moers) until the border with the Netherlands

Then, there is the ZRL tariff. It covers the easternmost portion of the Ruhr Area, with Kamen, Unna and Hamm.

And finally, for trips between these regions, there is the NRW tariff.

All of these tickets, by the way, are valid on all kinds of public transport (except IC/ICE trains) and generally allow unlimited transfers.
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Yes and no. Luckily, not every city has its own transit tickets. However, in the Rhine-Ruhr region there are still five different tickets:
[…]
Sorry, I have to correct that: The Rhein-Ruhr agglomeration is the region between Düsseldorf and Hamm and this region is covered by the same ticket network (VRR = Verkehrsverbund Rhein-Ruhr).
Köln and Bonn for example are not part of the Rhein-Ruhr agglomeration, they are part of the Köln/Bonn agglomeration (other designation: Rhein-Sieg agglomeration). That's the reason why they have another ticket network in Rhein-Sieg, that's the reason why they are not members of VRR but of VRS; and that's the reason why there operates S-Bahn Köln and not S-Bahn Rhein-Ruhr and why they have Stadtbahn Rhein-Sieg and not Stadtbahn Rhein-Ruhr.
We have Rhein-Ruhr on the one hand and Köln/Bonn (Rhein-Sieg) on the other, they have not much in common.
So it makes sense to have different ticket networks.
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You can compare Rhein-Ruhr and Rhein-Sieg to Rhein-Main and Rhein-Neckar, these are different agglomerations with no big distance between them too.
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Rhine-Ruhr buses.

Essen, city bus:

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Essen, city express bus:

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Essen, Spurbus (guided bus):

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Essen-Kettwig S, city night bus:

[IMG]http://www.************************/bilder/34er/3402.jpg[/IMG]

Essen-Werden S, city bus:

[IMG]http://www.************************/bilder/34er/3408.jpg[/IMG]

Essen Hbf., city bus:

[IMG]http://www.************************/bilder/35er/3510.jpg[/IMG]

Essen, Burgaltendorf Burgruine, regional express bus:

[IMG]http://www.************************/bilder/35er/3502.jpg[/IMG]

Essen-Steele S, city bus:

[IMG]http://www.************************/bilder/38er/3814.jpg[/IMG]

Test bus from Hanover in Essen:

[IMG]http://www.************************/bilder/leihwagen/7924.jpg[/IMG]
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Old May 25th, 2009, 02:58 AM   #99
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Hi!

Can you tell me what is that small number on display near the front door of the Citaro?

06, 12, etc etc..

thank you!
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You can compare Rhein-Ruhr and Rhein-Sieg to Rhein-Main and Rhein-Neckar, these are different agglomerations with no big distance between them too.
Umm, it's still some 40 km of less-developed area between those two (at least if one doesn't use the all-encompassing Metropolitan Region definitions), and rather not that much transport interlinks. The relevant public transport area agencies, VRN and RMV, only have three railroad lines (with 3 trains/hour average) and about five bus routes going across the border between them, and especially the bus routes will end right across the border in the next town in each case.

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Can you tell me what is that small number on display near the front door of the Citaro?
Circuit number within a route. That is, bus 06 will be the bus running on internal route timetable number 06. Next bus on the same route say e.g. 10 or 20 minutes later will likely be 07, next will be 08 and so on during regular operation, until the route is filled with busses (since at some point, the next one will be 01 again, having passed through the full circuit of the route). Internally, this bus will then run on a timetable saying e.g. "155-12" for the 12th bus on line 155, which combined with the right form for "155-12" gives the necessary information on when to turn up where. Including when to switch drivers, when to turn in the bus at the depot or to which line and circuit the bus changes at a certain terminus.

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