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Old May 23rd, 2009, 12:41 PM   #141
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I said few didn't I. Few meaning just a couple....
In fact in that post I was talking about Paris.

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There are so many cities that have better architectures and that are more monumental, such as... Paris...
"Better" maybe subjective when we talk about taste, but the importance of architects and the artistic value of buildings is not subjective.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 12:45 PM   #142
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In fact in that post I was talking about Paris.



"Better" maybe subjective when we talk about taste, but the importance of architects and the artistic value of buildings is not subjective.
So you mention one city while I said few. We don't disagree here...

Ofourse it is subjective.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 12:58 PM   #143
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So you mention one city while I said few. We don't disagree here...
In that thread you didn't seem so agree with me, but it's my opinion. Forget it.

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Is it subjective?

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Old May 23rd, 2009, 01:11 PM   #144
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Feelin a lot of European brotherly love here.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 01:57 PM   #145
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If you are playing to those who have "it" longer, here's to you...


... so we ended the game, sorry for vulgarity (moreover, we Italians are gruff and vulgar, as has been said a few posts ago).

I am sorry to read this. Europe has a vast and varied culture, developed in different states in different ways.
The French Gothic is not the same as the German Gothic, and both are not equal to the Venetian Gothic. Spain have Gaudì, Italy have Venice, France have the Loire ... are unique things that do not exist in any other part of the world.

I do not understand really the crux of the question, what is the best city to study architecture? It depends on what you're looking for, because each city offers different things. Moreover, it is said that a city with large quantity and variety of architecture, has a good school of architecture.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 02:22 PM   #146
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20cm that's too short!
alltough... it might actually even be long enough for Pincio and Ribarca.
The French and the Spanish are commonly said to have rather short penises anyways so the ruler might be sufficient...... but of course they do have some nice architecture though as we all learn from this thread.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 02:23 PM   #147
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This is not useful, too short.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 02:35 PM   #148
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Feelin a lot of European brotherly love here.
Yes, you can understand better why we made wars during centuries......

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For example Paris, the city we were talking about.
Agree, more, almost all French cities have their medieval center still intact, same for the gothic heritage !!!

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You are talking about the second (Paris) and the third (Rome) most visited european cities.
And the first is London.
Actually, I think the first most visited city IN THE WORLD is Paris (with 30 millions annual foreign visitors), but it isn't really important...

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Only you and your Friench friend make such qualifications in each post. I'm just trying to temper that.
Wrong !!! The first post about this stuff was (not from you, I know) about "Barcelona the most plural city" in Europe or in the World.......

The "French friend" has simply answered to that, not more !

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Both cities have a bit of a sleepy image. They are not the most happening cities for sure. Cities like Berlin or Barcelona attract more people with a non-conformist life style. They are a bit more edgy and therefore more attractive for creative poeple.
Paris, sleepy ???????
Not creative or attractive anymore ??????
Are you Sure ???

I have to tell you Paris/Ile de France area is the richest region in Europe with 12 millions of inhabitants...... So for being the first region of Europe, I think you need to be a little bit "attractive" especially for creative people...!

All you wrote about Paris are clichés.....You know Paris isn't only the postcard city.. There are several Paris...

About metro/subways, I think I don't need to argue about Paris.....

20th and 21st centuries in Paris :












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Old May 23rd, 2009, 02:37 PM   #149
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Unfortunately, we have also buildings like these in Barcelona.


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We have thousands like these here. And more original.

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Not great. Ugly.

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La belle époque (especially post #2)
Cute buildings.

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Great, beautiful.

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This one is Great because it shows the large diversity of Paris (without its monuments), day by day and from pedestrian view. We can see simply the streets and buildings and for me, this thread is the best evidence of the non-artificial side of Paris:
Paris...my city

About Renaissance, Second Empire, Neoclassicism/Rationalism, International Style, Mansard-Roofs (which is not only about the colour of the roofs), Gothic of course, Medieval, Romanesque, Baroque and skyscrapers, I think I don't need to show you examples anymore ...
The Mansard-Roof, I was joking about the colour.

Please, show Renacentist Buildings in Paris, street buildings, not palaces.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 02:45 PM   #150
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Actually, I think the first most visited city IN THE WORLD is Paris (with 30 millions annual foreign visitors), but it isn't really important...
I've only this old source

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=446878&page=3

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Source: European CITIES Tourism ECT

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Londres 47.800.000
Paris 33.700.000
Roma 16.600.000
Berlín 14.600.000
Madrid 12.300.000
Barcelona 11.300.000
Praga 11.200.000
Viena 9.500.000
Dublín 8.700.000
Amsterdam 8.400.000
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 02:48 PM   #151
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20cm that's too short!
alltough... it might actually even be long enough for Pincio and Ribarca.
The French and the Spanish are commonly said to have rather short penises anyways so the ruler might be sufficient...... but of course they do have some nice architecture though as we all learn from this thread.
Short Penises?

Seems you know a lot about french and spanish penises .
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 03:22 PM   #152
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Didn't I told you guys to stop this crap?


This place is closed as soon as anyone dares to proceed with this spamfest!
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 03:48 PM   #153
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This place is closed as soon as anyone dares to proceed with this spamfest!
Maybe, I hate these "feuds", so generalized, style "I am better than you, we are the best in Europe and the world." It spits in the face to thousands of years of history and beauty, to make stupid rankings.

This thread reminds me of the very classic jokes "there are one Spanish, one French and one Italian ... bla bla bla bla"

In the past diversity of culture was a rich, just to see the spread of architectural styles in history, and their diversity in each country.

I am sorry and I regret even having read certain stereotype phrases like "classic example of Italian and French arrogance," we are still at this level? Generalize? Who is more arrogant? Thanks ... I do not write more on this thread.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 03:49 PM   #154
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Please don't close this thread, I enjoy it.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 04:15 PM   #155
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You mean Amsterdam in Holland?
Well, since some folks renamed New Amsterdam in New York...Yes, I mean the Dutch capital.

Anyway, given that i'm bored and i don't want to study for my forthcoming exams, i resisted fiercely to the temptation of posting a couple of hundred of photos and I've been doing some research on the net.

I've been looking at some of the most important archistars at the moment, focusing on where they've been studying and where is their HQ. don't give my research too much importance, I might have forgotten some important names since I mostly used the Pritzker Award winners' list.

so, here we go (Name - University - HQ's location)

Renzo Piano - Politecnico di Milano and Firenze - Paris, Genoa but once also in London

Richard Rogers - Architectural Association School, London, and Yale - London

Hans Kolhoff - University of Karlsruhe, Koln and Cornell University, NYC - Berlin

Rem Koolhaas - Architectural Association School, London and Cornell University, NYC - Rotterdam, NYC and Beijing

David Chipperfield - Architectural Association School, London - London, Berlin and Milan

Frank Gehry - University of South California, LA - LA

Alvaro Siza - Oporto University - Lisbon

Fumihiko Maki - University of Tokyo, Cranbrook Academy of Arts, USA, Harvard - Tokyo

Christian de Portzamparc - Beaux Arts, Paris - Paris, NYC, Rio

Norman Foster - Manchester University and Yale - London

Herzog & De Meuron - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology - Basel

Zaha Hadid - American University, Beirut and Architectural Association School, London - London

Thom Mayne - Harvard - LA, NYC

Jean Nouvel - École des Beaux-Arts, Bordeaux and Paris - Paris

Santiago Calatrava - Architecture School and Arts and Crafts School, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology - Zurich

Massimiliano Fuksas - Rome University (La Sapienza) - Rome, Paris and Vienna

Arata Isozaki - Tokyo University - Tokyo

So, there are some re-occurrent names, such as Yale, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, the Beaux Arts in Paris and of course the Architectural Association School in London.

If i were in the chap who started this thread, I'll do a sort of list of faculties i'd love to go and then I'd look at professors there. When I was about to choose which university to go I did like this: went on their homepages, seen the course schedules and had a glance at teachers' CVs. it's vital to have good teachers: 99% of archistars I mentioned before had well-known professors.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 04:23 PM   #156
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Please, show Renacentist Buildings in Paris, street buildings, not palaces.
You know, "street buildings" for most of them weren't built in Renaissance style, because of the cost of this kind of construction. Only rich families have built "Hotels Particuliers" in this style....
I could show you streets building of this period but they aren't very stylish.....

BTW there are different kinds of French renaissance:
Early one, which is very unique, is a mix with late gothic, used for non-religious constructions.
late one is much more classic (during the era of Henry IV and early Louis XIII)

French Renaissance in Paris (16th century): (without churches and bridges)









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I've only this old source

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Londres 47.800.000
Paris 33.700.000
from other sources Paris is the first, so ???

Anyway by country France still the first touristic destination with 85 millions visitors per year.
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Please, show Renacentist Buildings in Paris, street buildings, not palaces.
Marais district is full of wonderful Renacentist buildings. The most famous is Hotel Carnavalet.

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=hote...rnavalet&w=all
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Yes, you can see it in the pics of my last post....
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Beautiful, thanks.
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I've been looking at some of the most important archistars at the moment, focusing on where they've been studying and where is their HQ. don't give my research too much importance, I might have forgotten some important names since I mostly used the Pritzker Award winners' list.

Good idea:

Some more architects:

I.M. Pei
MIT, Cambridge Massachusetts

Enric Miralles
Escola Tècnica Superior d'Arquitectura (ETSAB) , Barcelona

Alejandro Zaera-Polo
Escuela Técnica Superior de Arquitectura de Madrid, Graduate School of Design, Harvard University

Toyo Ito
Tokyo University Department of Architecture, Tokyo.

A useful link:
http://www.archinect.com/links/list.php?id=C0_19_26
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