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Old May 24th, 2009, 01:00 PM   #161
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Good job Ribarca! who's Enric Miralles? sounds from Catalunya, but I never heard of him.
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Old May 24th, 2009, 02:29 PM   #162
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Good job Ribarca! who's Enric Miralles? sounds from Catalunya, but I never heard of him.
Unfortunately he died very young. He had a firm with his Italian wife.
http://www.mirallestagliabue.com/

His wife is continuining the business. Benedetta Tagliabue was born in Milan and graduated from the University of Venice
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Old May 25th, 2009, 12:18 PM   #163
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aren't we talking about architectural schools here? a city with great buildings and architectural/cultural heritage does not necessarily equate good places to study architecture. yes you can argue there's a lot more to see and get inspirations from the city itself but these days you just fly there and that's what field trips are for!

regarding architectural schools, i agree with the earlier comments from one of the forumers. it really depends on what routes you would like to pursue. architectural schools can vary hugely - some more technical (combination with engineering), some more traditional (beaux-arts) and some more creative and proclaim themselves at the forefront of architectural debate.

say within the UK (which i personally would argue is one of the best countries to study architecture in the world), the Bartlett (UCL) and the AA are the creative powerhouses; the MAC (GSA), Sheffield are the more traditional ones while Cardiff and Bath tend to be more technical. they're all good schools so it really depends what you're after.

i personally don't know an awful lot about schools outside the UK. but there're also a few famous/good ones in the states: Cooper Union (equivalent of Bartlett in the states), MIT, Columbia... etc.

also, you have to be aware of the fact that some universities have really crap courses as well (the difference is extraordinarily huge) and they're more inclined to getting their students 'ticking the boxes' than trying to be creative and different which is what architecture should be about. there's no rigour at all.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 12:24 PM   #164
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and not to forget that architecture is a very expensive course (and very bloody long course) to study so financing the course may affect you making the choice of which school you wanna go to!

say in the states, the best schools are mostly private ivy league schools and in the uk, the best schools are in the capital which is probably one of the most expensive cities to live in the world. schools like AA and Bartlett (esp AA) expect students to 'have money' to pay for long-haul trips, buy expensive printers, make pretty expensive models and so on!
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Old June 8th, 2009, 09:48 PM   #165
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Hey people. Don't be rude with me.


Barcelona, euroean styles:


Romanic:

Sant Pau del Camp:



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Sant Benet de Bages:




Sant Climent de Taüll:



are you kidding me?¿?¿? San Benet del Bages is in a town 60km away from Barcelona and san Climent de Taül is not even in Barcelona province (it's in the pyrinees almost bordering with Aragón and 165-170km away from Barcelona)
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Old June 8th, 2009, 09:49 PM   #166
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You guys are def. overrating Barcelona in its meaning and university quality. There's way better stuff throughout Europe.
exactly. Barcelona has great architecture to see but its architecture colleges are not even the best in Spain which are in Madrid and Valencia
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Old June 8th, 2009, 09:58 PM   #167
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Paris, London or Rome were the capitals of their own empires. Barcelona was never the capitol of an own empire. The Kingdom wich Barcelona belonged, Spain, ill-treated Barcelona and bombarded it several times. And for example, Spain prohibited business between Catalonia and America, after the discovery of the new continent. The unique region of all Spain that was banned of trading with America.

So Barcelona has much more merit.
obviously you never passed History. Spain never ill-treated Barcelona (the other way around.read something about spanish protectionism to favou catalan and basque industries in the XIX century).Barcelona was bombarded during the civil war the same as many other cities (like Madrid for example)

Cataluña was not the only region that was banned of trading with America. In fact, Seville had the monopoly. there were a lot of reasons for that but the most important of them was that the conquest of America was made and paid by castillians. the crown of Aragón had nothing to do with Americas conquest. Even with that the only castillian port that was able to trade with americas was Seville,as i said, for a lot of decades


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That's not true.

The Bourbons were the first enemies of Barcelona and the bourbonic monarchy was instaured after the birth of Madrid.

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another false statement
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Old June 9th, 2009, 09:52 AM   #168
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obviously you never passed History. Spain never ill-treated Barcelona (the other way around.read something about spanish protectionism to favou catalan and basque industries in the XIX century).


The Catalans sided against the Bourbons but obviously lost in the end.

The Nueva Planta decrees hit all those areas that were formerly part of the Crown of Aragon.

Spain tore down a part of the old town of Barcelona to keep the people in Barcelona at bay. The hated Ciutudella. The city was not even allowed to expand beyond it walls until much later.

The same later goes for the Fort of Montjuic which could be used at all time not to protect the city but to attack it if needed.

The Catalan industry was never favored. The Catalans were just miles ahead of the rest of the Iberian peninsula in the 19th century. If anything Franco abused it to bring in people from all over Spain to dilute the Catalan identity.
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For the Romanic example Guille_89uy could better have chosen something within Barcelona, e.g. Sant Cugat.



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Old June 9th, 2009, 10:31 AM   #170
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exactly. Barcelona has great architecture to see but its architecture colleges are not even the best in Spain which are in Madrid and Valencia
Univeritat de Barcelona is the only spanish one in THES – QS World University Rankings 2006 .


(We were talking about ramanic all around France and Catalonia -not just Paris or Barcelona-, so read all the text. And the paint i showed of Sant Climent de Taüll is in the National Museum of Art of Catalonia, that has the biggest romanic collection of the world.)
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Old June 9th, 2009, 07:00 PM   #171
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The Catalans sided against the Bourbons but obviously lost in the end.

The Nueva Planta decrees hit all those areas that were formerly part of the Crown of Aragon.
that was something between bourbons and the crown of aragón not Spain as a country against Cataluña. The crown of Aragón sided in favour of Austrian Archiduke and he lost so the Nueva planta decrees were something very normal (if revenge can be called normal). on the other way the bourbons respected the ''fueros'' of Navarra, Álava,Guipúzcoa and Vizcaya, which sided in favour of the Bourbons

Anyway Cataluña wasn't the most affected place by Nueva Panta decrees.That was Valencia and then Aragón.Mallorca was probably the least affected place

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The Catalan industry was never favored. The Catalans were just miles ahead of the rest of the Iberian peninsula in the 19th century. If anything Franco abused it to bring in people from all over Spain to dilute the Catalan identity.
not true at all. catalan,basque and asturian industries were larguely favoured and protected by our goverments during XIX century.the catalan and asturians industries were no competitive at all compared to their british counterparts.Search about it at google or read some books

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Univeritat de Barcelona is the only spanish one in THES – QS World University Rankings 2006 .
many of those rankings are useless. you have to look at their criterions. Anyway that's not a ranking for architecture schools, just universities in general.
you can see another of these ranking here

http://www.webometrics.info/top500_europe_es.asp

here's another ranking very well known in Spain where you can see they rank Politécnica de Madrid as the best university for achitecture in Spain. ''Politecnica de Catalunya'' is second and ''Politecnica de Valencia'' third.

http://www.elmundo.es/especiales/200...arreras/2.html
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Old December 6th, 2009, 08:02 AM   #173
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Architecture !!?

Hi Friends,

I am considering doing a degree in architecture, can any one tell me if I am guaranteed work after I graduate, and what is the job like? What hours or shifts will I be looking to work with, what does the work consist of and is it easy to work for my self soon after I finish my degree and have established my self?

Preferably people who work as an architect or have some sort of background knowledge! Thanks soo much
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I would definately choose barcelona or ny. Walking around those cities, is also very estimulating in your career.

But, your future does not depends on where you study, or the name of the institute in you diploma.

Most of the contemporary important architects, studied in their locals institutes, like Cesar Pelli, or Zaha Hadid.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 11:04 AM   #175
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I am considering doing a degree in architecture, can any one tell me if I am guaranteed work after I graduate, and what is the job like? What hours or shifts will I be looking to work with, what does the work consist of and is it easy to work for my self soon after I finish my degree and have established my self?

Preferably people who work as an architect or have some sort of background knowledge! Thanks soo much

Architecture can be a tough business. There is no guarantee of work once you leave school so the best advice is to make your own chances by focusing on classwork and making the most of the time you spend studying. If an internship is available, take it and get to know the business. It's all about connections: that's how you find work, that's how you get work. Be in it for the long run. Buildings are more complicated than ever and the best architects peak later in life so don't expect much earlier on. As you advance in school, you'll get a taste of the hours. They are very long and all-nighters are common. Expect to work in someone else's shop for some time before you're ready to go it alone. The more ambitious you are the longer you need to stay in a firm learning every aspect of the business. If you leave too soon, you may just get houses and smaller jobs. Lastly, timing is everything. When the economy is slow like it is now, that's when you should be in school or at a firm learning the trade. That way, when you get out, hopefully there will be more work than you can handle.
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Btw, there's thousands of English-language study courses and international programmes in Germany, including architecture/urbanism courses. Here's an overview: https://www.daad.de/deutschland/stud...l-programs/en/

But as everywhere outside the anglophone world, it's of course beneficial to learn phrases in the local language and develop some basic understanding. In the big cities/metropolises as well as university towns (Greifswald, Heidelberg, Jena, Tübingen etc.) you can perfectly get along with English, though.
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