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Old May 15th, 2009, 05:24 PM   #21
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I'm all for building a second scraper instead as well. Sounds like more or less every single one of you agrees with this

This suggestion is hopeless anyways
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Old May 16th, 2009, 05:18 PM   #22
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That would make this one mighty building. But I agree with the rest of the people here. New tower: good, This: bad.

I will give it one thing, though, I like the way they change the short edges of the building to a pointier form. Imo that's what they should have done on the original.

And finally, I say that if they decide to increase the height in stead, I'll be all for it ofc.
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Old May 18th, 2009, 07:54 AM   #23
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What a horrible idea! For once I agree with the NIMBYs.

Det irriterer meg at vi skal ha en byantikvar som driver med inkonsekvent synsing som dette. Hvorfor skal vi ha statsansatte som sitter og kommer med sure oppgulp hver gang noen prøver å utvikle byen, mens når det er noe som er bevaringsverdig har han ingen invendinger?!? "Oslo plaza" er jo et ikon for Oslo, det første som har møtt mange som har reist inn til byen i et par tiår. Det er vel knapt noe bygg som representerer slutten av 80-tallet bedre.
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Old May 19th, 2009, 01:03 PM   #24
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He's a NIMBY. He's trying to feed us rope to hang ourselves.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 12:33 PM   #25
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Am I the only one who think this would be cool? :P Seriously, not every high rise needs to be slim!
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Old May 20th, 2009, 12:42 PM   #26
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^ It would be cool, if this was one of many highrises in a cluster - the pointy side is brilliant, but not as THE highrise.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 12:45 PM   #27
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The problem is that it isn't slim now either. It was planned both taller and half as thick, but, as usual, someone made a compromise...

And me, I'm almost going for the NIMBY-arguement about the shadow. Some areas around this building have shadows most of the day already. Imagine with this!
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Old May 20th, 2009, 12:50 PM   #28
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The problem is that it isn't slim now either. It was planned both taller and half as thick, but, as usual, someone made a compromise...
Really? Stupid bastards! I would love to see a render of that!
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Old May 20th, 2009, 06:11 PM   #29
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Seriously, not every high rise needs to be slim!
No, but it should be slimmer than its height – or it will look more like a box than a tower.


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^ It would be cool, if this was one of many highrises in a cluster - the pointy side is brilliant, but not as THE highrise.
But if KLP´s project in Biksop Gunnerus gate 14b will be approved, it will not be THE highrise, anymore.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 06:25 PM   #30
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It really is a shame. A huge glass box (almost ) in the middle of Oslo

The but ugly Radisson Scandinavia hotel in Copenhagen will at least get more right proportions.

Make it 150 meter tall instead!
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Old May 21st, 2009, 01:53 PM   #31
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But if KLP´s project in Biksop Gunnerus gate 14b will be approved, it will not be THE highrise, anymore.
Well i still not so glad about it, maybe if both Bg14b, Mads Galleri Oslo tower and Fjordporten would be built i would think differently.

The problem with this proposal is Plaza plot is so small (And effectivly we know Sonja Henies plass can't be built over) So if a new tower is to go up it will have to be very close to the existing one, the best thing would be to simply move the extension all the way to the nortern end of the plot to make a small gap between them and change the cladding so it appears to be a completly different building (Like Klp in Barcode). But then the river-lovers and other nimbys will say it's to close to the park. Basicly i don't see politicians can find city benefits to weight against the negative arguments against such an extension. Being a fan of horsetrades, and i think this is the only way to get build anything so tall in Oslo i would like to see Plaza offer some sort of benefit to the city in exchange of building permit, like Klp is doing with their bus-terminal and moving of Østre tangent aswell as making an ugly street more beautiful. While Plaza proposal is very hard to sell to the people even tough it would be in a different form like i mentioned earlier.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 01:12 PM   #32
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http://www.vg.no/reise/artikkel.php?artid=587464

Plaza ønsker å utvide fra dagens 673 rom til 1008 værelser, om de får det som de vil.

- Vi vil bygge i bredden - ikke høyden.

- Vi regner med å få Byrådets velsignelse i løpet av sommeren.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 02:28 PM   #33
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I tried to search up the Gardermoen proposal, let me know if you find anything about it please!
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Old March 17th, 2010, 03:33 PM   #34
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Oh my god!! This is a horrible proposal. I am glad all of you guys seem to have the same opinion. My first though when i saw it was WTF !?? This is excactly what we don't want, and excactly the reason why Postgirobygget was modified in the opposite direction - UPWARDS, and with the cosmetical "split" between it. PLEASE don't make a commieblock out of Plaza. We want tall and slender buildings, not this!
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Old March 17th, 2010, 05:33 PM   #35
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worst thing is that few will actually do some opposition against this, but if they added the same area in height instead of sideways it would have been met with the largest opposition in Oslo history!
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Old March 17th, 2010, 05:42 PM   #36
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The building is already too tall to look over, so it wouldn't hurt to make it even taller. But wider, that will be pure ugly and blocking. I don't understand why they don't see that.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 06:29 PM   #37
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Just one thing to say if this gets approved; WTF? This must be the closest you could get to urban rape. Hope that byrådet have some better ambitions with this area
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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:06 PM   #38
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It would be strange if this gets approved. Especially after all the talk about Galleri Oslo beign a wall and a barrier in the city.

Do we really want a 110m tall Galleri Oslo?

Also, isn't this against the plans for Akerselva? That there should be atleast something like 40 metres of space on either side to allow it to drain pollution and cold air from the city?
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Old March 18th, 2010, 01:58 PM   #39
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It sure is, they want to expand the podium to the north into the park aswell as you can see in the first post. PBE suggested in their Oslo S vision that Plaza would build their extension in a new building on top of what is now Galleri Oslo, but only 42 meters tall.
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Old August 19th, 2010, 09:55 AM   #40
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Good news across the street! Spectrum wants to build an extension aswell, for conference purposes, these two complexes are already connected by a bridge, now we just need them to think the aubvious here! I think a new highrise making a portal with existing Plaza would be genius to mark Sonja Henies plass and the parkspace in the urban context =)

Here's a render of what Spectrum has in mind:
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