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Old May 15th, 2009, 11:14 PM   #1
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Crossrail stations & associated works | Various sites | London | U/C

I think it's generally agreed that we need a dedicated Crossrail Thread in the London Metro Section - focussing in particular on above ground works, including demolition, stations and additional building. Although comments are of course welcome on all aspects of the project.

To get us started I've done a round up of the latest available images I could find. I would exercise caution with some of the drawings and renders - this project has been around for a long time and I suspect most station designs have been through a number of changes. So I would proceed on the assumption that some are indicative only. In addition some may be completely out of date - we await further updates.


OK - from west to east. The lack of commentary is purely a reflection of my own ignorance - I'm hoping you lot can fill in the gaps!

Ealing Broadway



Acton Main Line



Paddington







Bond Street







Tottenham Court Road



Farringdon



Liverpool Street



Whitechapel





Isle of Dogs



Custom House



Woolwich

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Old May 15th, 2009, 11:16 PM   #2
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There are some pics here as well (including hi-res versions) -

http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090...View&count=999
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Old May 15th, 2009, 11:19 PM   #3
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Looks nice I hope Tories wont scrap it once they get in.
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Old May 15th, 2009, 11:26 PM   #4
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Boris is a Tory and he loves this little scheme. Plus hes always going on about building our way out of recession.
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Old May 16th, 2009, 12:38 AM   #5
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great news this project has started, however the crossrail logo looks a bit dated imo. i hope they update it before 2017
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Old May 16th, 2009, 12:56 AM   #6
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Boris is a Tory and he loves this little scheme. Plus hes always going on about building our way out of recession.

Boris won't be PM though.
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Old May 16th, 2009, 01:31 AM   #7
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Some of these comments are so ignorant, it's enough to make you weep...

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I can imagine the conversation at No.10 :

Gordon: "What can we do to divert the public's attention from this awful expenses embarrasement"?

Darling: "I know, lets roll out the old Crossrail story. We haven't used it for at least 6 months".

- Simon, London


Is anyone ever going to do anything about Clapham Junction???

- Catherine Moorhouse, London


ANY BRITISH FIRMS INVOLVED/

- Alan Green, Woodford Green


£16bn - is someone having a laugh, I bet there is a bit of gravy in this for someone. Not sure how this helps SE London as much as some of the other comments suggest - Woolwich DLR already goes to Canary Wharf. What about the likes to Bromley, Catford and the other fringes of SE London and N Kent - for a fraction of this amount transport infrastructure projects could have helped these areas immensely and offered people the opportunity to access Cananry Wharf etc. I see Bromleys unemployment has doubled - not sure what has happened in Berkshire but i think people in SE London are getting fed up with all of the transport projects, large regeneration projects etc going north of the river with the government and GLA taking cash from the hard up of SE London and N Kent to pay for these. What else could have been done for £16bn??????

- Tonyy, London


Along with the third runway at Heathrow, this is a project that the Conservatives intend to scrap once in power. Why start it? This bankrupt E.U. province simply cannot afford it.

- Phil Jones, London UK


Oliver D. Brinston...Boris had nothing to do with getting this project going..it was being planned when Boris was still filling his soporific mouth as a memeber of the Bullingdon Club dining society...and it's imlipmentation had all but been agreed well in adavnce of him taking office..yet another project that Boris would like to claim credit for but in fact has had nothing to do with...

- Ade, London


Shouldn't this money be spent on hospitals, schools and maybe a new airport in the Thames estuary?

- St, London


Here, here Proud Car owner, I don't get ill so I shouldn't pay hospitals, I don't have children (we sold them on ebay) and I don't drive so I shouldn't pay for roads. I do walk though so I suppose I have to pay for pavements - damn.

I live in Surrey - why should I pay for anything outside my mansioned domain?

- Clarkson Jeremy, Surrey


What an utter waste of money, they should bring the tube into the 21st century rather than this private train for shipping in the wealthy from their Berkshire mansions.

- Chris, London, England


I live in Hampstead and this line goes nowhere near me, why should I have to pay for it? If people want new railways near them let them pay for it, not people who will never use it like myself.

- Proud Car Owner, London


Oliver: That's just completely not true. This project was approved and funded while Ken was still our mayor. Boris has scrapped a whole number of transport projects and has been very vague about any kind of tube extension.

I'm glad it's happening, although I'd prefer the Chelsea-Hackney line which I hope will get planning permission as well. It'll be harder to fund as it's less useful for business (as appos4ed to Heathrow - West End - City - Canary Wharf) but more useful for most Londoners and providing relief for the busiest lines and connecting the two of the inner London boroughs that lack tube access.

- Lucas, Londoin NW1


Crossrail is a total waste of money and I am saddened to see how many people have been taken in by it. This money would have been better spent on modernising the existing underground and overground railway lines in London and on extending the existing routes. It will also no doubt encourage more businesses to be based in the capital and hundreds of thousands more people to move to London over the coming years, when it is bursting at the seams already.

- Matt, London, UK


The East-West Crossrail was first envisaged about half a century ago when it was seen as the most needed improvement to london's public transport network. It's construction subsequently became an iconic political aspiration. Over the decades, however, the pattern of travel in London will have changed. Would independent transport planners, free from politicians and the influence of property developers, still regard Crossrail as the top priority?

- James, London England


Oliver D Brinstone What a load of nonsense you speak. It is thanks to Gordon Brown and Ken Livingstone that this project is finally underway.

While all David Cameron can do is threaten this project noo doubt in the same way as Boris has cancelled other vital upgrades to Londons transport like DLR to Dagenham Dock, Cross River Tram and East Thames Crossing.

Canary Whalf Station is actually being funded by Camnary Whalf and it is vital that it and crossrail get built if this area and the North Greenwich Peninsular are to be developed.

Much nonsense is talked about Crossrail but all it basically is a tunnel that links the former GER with the GWR which is what the French having been doing for many years with the RER network that Paris now has.

We should be looking at further schemes that link Euston to Charing Cross/Waterloo East and another tunnel linking Liverpool Street to Victoria. Similar schemes like the Picc-Vicc scheme in Manchester also need to be built.

The fact is oli is running out while demand will soon outstrip supply so we need to move back to a rail based culture which also includes Trams and Trolley-Buses.

Talk of electric cars is like a drug addict asking for methadone the fact is where will the fuel come from to waste on electricity for electric cars containing 1 person!

- Melvyn Windebank, Canvey Island, Essex


It's just a shame that it is going to take such a long time for the project to be completed. It will definitely re-energise the south east London area!

- Jane, London


Thank god they managed to start it before he Tories get in, looks like this will be the last piece of transport investment for another generation.

- James, London


When I worked on Crossrail in the 1990's, the value was 2.5 Billion. There's inflation for you.

- Barry, Bedford England


Wgy is there a pic of Boris Johnson accompanying this story when he and his party have been opposing Crossrail for years and only last week threatened to pull the plug on it if they get into power ?

- Keith Price, Luton, England


It's about time. The seven million people who live in London and the millions who live in the South East will benefit from it when it's done.

- Sean, London


Congrats to everyone who showed vision in getting this project off the ground.

- Jamoco, Old st, London


Its not just banks and MPs - there is a view among some seasoned professionals that, increasingly over the past 20 years, some of these mega projects in the UK have, like some banks, become feeding grounds for private sector firms to make super profits through poorly scoped out contracts and use of very expensive consultants who could have been recruited directly to the public sector for one of third of the price - all at taxpayers expense. Given that the projects involve vast sums of public money (CrossRail is £16 billion!) the sector requires specialist regulation, the current level of which inadequate to even begin to identify potential misuse of funds.

Let us hope that CrossRail does not overpay on our behalf for delivering the necessary east-west link.

- Jim, london


This project is why Boris is the man to lead London to success. Under his predecessor Crossrail was nothing more than political soundbites, photocalls in front of computer generated fantasies and an inflated budget that meant no-one was willing to get down to the real hard work of building it. Since Boris has become Mayor he has worked tirelessly to drive costs to acceptable levels, get to the nitty gritty of construction work and finally, today, we see the fruits of this hard-work. Crossrail is going to revolutionise travel across London, making it easier, faster and cleaner and this is all down to the Mayor. Thank you Boris, all Londoners owe you an extreme debt of gratitude today, and this will be shown by your re-election in 2012 and hopefully 2016 when you officially open this new route through our capital.

- Oliver D. Brinston, Belgravia Village, London


What is the aim of building this line and who will it help when it is finished?

- Mike M, Bedford England
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Old May 16th, 2009, 02:23 AM   #8
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the isle of dogs station looks absolutely fantastic!
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Old May 16th, 2009, 02:47 AM   #9
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the isle of dogs station looks absolutely fantastic!
bigger renders- http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2122

slightly suspicious about the depth of soil the trees will go in. looks like 2 feet!!
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Why don't they try something different at Liverpool Street rather than continuing the same style?
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Could the station designs be any less ambitious? The Isle of Dogs station looks great, but the rest seem like wasted opportunities to me. They could really go to town with these station designs... I hope there are a lot of massive changes before final renders are released.
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I knew I recognised that building (shocking that I didnt instantly). So basically, just new ticket halls and access areas underground for liverpool street. Makes more sense since real estate there would be pointlessly expensive.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...3.08,,0,-12.05

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Old May 16th, 2009, 04:55 AM   #13
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I think Ealing looks a bit dreary with those pedestrian column supports as does Whitechapel, a bit dated too. I think bond streets building above the station is yet again a good example of the a nondescript glass box chucked in a heritage area above a station we really have to avoid. At this stage it's too early to say what they will end up like but at least Canary Wharfs station is trying to challenge and move forward station design which has to be applauded.
We have seen what they intend to do to Tottenham Court Road above ground but does anyone know what it will look like below?
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Thanks for all the images. Just wondering though, is this image definitely right? This is at the other side of Smithfield market, quite a long way (3 mins walk perhaps) from Farringdon tube station. Or will there be two Crossrail entrances serving Farringdon?
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ignore me... have just read all about it here

http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090053AF4C/Files/stationinformation-central/$FILE/5393_c20.r3.1_farringdon.pdf

it'll be quite a big interchange, what with tube, Thameslink 2000 and Crossrail.
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We have seen what they intend to do to Tottenham Court Road above ground but does anyone know what it will look like below?
What will TCR station look like down below?

Utterly generic at this stage, I'm afraid.

This area needs a masterplan!

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hmm a bit boring but a massive improvement to what's there at the moment.
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This Bond Street render is seriously crap. Aren't they redeveloping the Hog in the Pound also? There was a render somewhere about it. :/

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EDIT: Oh here it is:



I didn't realise there was going to be a Crossrail station right here.
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Could the station designs be any less ambitious? The Isle of Dogs station looks great, but the rest seem like wasted opportunities to me. They could really go to town with these station designs... I hope there are a lot of massive changes before final renders are released.
I agree. Its a mixture actually because Canary wharf, Tottenham Court road Stations are pretty good. Whitechapel is innofensive too but there is also some really medioucre stuff in there,

Bond street is the usuall glass box which is guaranteed to crop up in a batch of projects. there is always going to be some architect totally bereft of ideas or creativity try and pull the old 'clean lines crystaline form' story out of the bag.

Paddington is apalling. The archtiects is clearly trying to challenge Euston in the ugly stakes.
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