Iran

[AdmiralAnthony]

See what i mean shapoor? These are the kinda people our diplomats have to deal with all the time. Do these people represent the majority of Iranians?

[v4vendetta]

Originally Posted by AdmiralAnthony

See what i mean shapoor? These are the kinda people our diplomats have to deal with all the time. Do these people represent the majority of Iranians?

I am NOT an Iranian. I am NOT a Muslim. I am NOT a fucking Christian.

[AdmiralAnthony]

Originally Posted by v4vendetta

I am NOT an Iranian. I am NOT a Muslim. I am NOT a fucking Christian.

Perhaps not but you reflect the views of those in power in Iran. A hard liner, has a lot of hate and anger and distrust and rant alot just like your comment above. Point made my boy!

[javi itzhak]

That's not good news for Iran, if Iran use that missile and it hits Israel, no doubt Israel will attack agressively Iran. so please Iran stop being such a jerk.

[AdmiralAnthony]

Yup there are many analysts and political advisors who are commenting that as long as Iran continues to act the way it is, Israel will be forced to strike first just like they have done in Iraq and Syria. It might not be the right thing to do but can you blame them when the Iranian leadership continues to threaten them? Iran needs to without question do what Obama suggests: "unclench your fist" and the world will be more accepting of you. Do not, and sorry but you are gonna get bombed whether u like it or not.

[AdmiralAnthony]

Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
Uzi Mahnaimi, New York and Sarah Baxter, Washington
ISRAEL has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons.

Two Israeli air force squadrons are training to blow up an Iranian facility using low-yield nuclear “bunker-busters”, according to several Israeli military sources.

The attack would be the first with nuclear weapons since 1945, when the United States dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Israeli weapons would each have a force equivalent to one-fifteenth of the Hiroshima bomb.

Under the plans, conventional laser-guided bombs would open “tunnels” into the targets. “Mini-nukes” would then immediately be fired into a plant at Natanz, exploding deep underground to reduce the risk of radioactive fallout.

“As soon as the green light is given, it will be one mission, one strike and the Iranian nuclear project will be demolished,” said one of the sources.

The plans, disclosed to The Sunday Times, have been prompted in part by the Israeli intelligence service Mossad’s assessment that Iran is on the verge of producing enough enriched uranium to make nuclear weapons within the next year.

Israeli military commanders believe conventional strikes may no longer be enough to annihilate increasingly well-defended enrichment facilities. Several have been built beneath at least 70ft of concrete and rock. However, the nuclear-tipped bunker-busters would be used only if a conventional attack was ruled out and if the United States declined to intervene, senior sources said.

Israeli and American officials have met several times to consider military action. Military analysts said the disclosure of the plans could be intended to put pressure on Tehran to halt enrichment, cajole America into action or soften up world opinion in advance of an Israeli attack.

Some analysts warned that Iranian retaliation for such a strike could range from disruption of oil supplies to the West to terrorist attacks against Jewish targets around the world.

Israel has identified three prime targets south of Tehran which are believed to be involved in Iran’s nuclear programme:



Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges are being installed for uranium enrichment


A uranium conversion facility near Isfahan where, according to a statement by an Iranian vice-president last week, 250 tons of gas for the enrichment process have been stored in tunnels


A heavy water reactor at Arak, which may in future produce enough plutonium for a bomb Israeli officials believe that destroying all three sites would delay Iran’s nuclear programme indefinitely and prevent them from having to live in fear of a “second Holocaust”.

The Israeli government has warned repeatedly that it will never allow nuclear weapons to be made in Iran, whose president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has declared that “Israel must be wiped off the map”.


Robert Gates, the new US defence secretary, has described military action against Iran as a “last resort”, leading Israeli officials to conclude that it will be left to them to strike. Israeli pilots have flown to Gibraltar in recent weeks to train for the 2,000-mile round trip to the Iranian targets. Three possible routes have been mapped out, including one over Turkey. Air force squadrons based at Hatzerim in the Negev desert and Tel Nof, south of Tel Aviv, have trained to use Israel’s tactical nuclear weapons on the mission.

Sources close to the Pentagon said the United States was highly unlikely to give approval for tactical nuclear weapons to be used. One source said Israel would have to seek approval “after the event”, as it did when it crippled Iraq’s nuclear reactor at Osirak with airstrikes in 1981. Scientists have calculated that although contamination from the bunker-busters could be limited, tons of radioactive uranium compounds would be released. The Israelis believe that Iran’s retaliation would be constrained by fear of a second strike if it were to launch its Shehab-3 ballistic missiles at Israel. However, American experts warned of repercussions, including widespread protests that could destabilise parts of the Islamic world friendly to the West. Colonel Sam Gardiner, a Pentagon adviser, said Iran could try to close the Strait of Hormuz, the route for 20% of the world’s oil.

[AdmiralAnthony]

Originally Posted by AdmiralAnthony

Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
Israeli pilots have flown to Gibraltar in recent weeks to train for the 2,000-mile round trip to the Iranian targets. Three possible routes have been mapped out, including one over Turkey.

That's what i'v been saying for a while. A route through turkey. It's possible that Israel is making waves about it's agreement with Saudi Arabia to allow its aircraft to fly through its airspace as distraction to make Iran focus on an attack from the west. When infact Israel may well attack from the north albeit it is a longer route.

American experts warned of repercussions, including widespread protests that could destabilise parts of the Islamic world friendly to the West. Colonel Sam Gardiner, a Pentagon adviser, said Iran could try to close the Strait of Hormuz, the route for 20% of the world’s oil.

Yup thats bout all they could do. Retaliating against Israel will just result in Tehran being flattened.
Watch out Iran, the time is coming..... unless you wish to unclench your fist.

[Caiman]

Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran

The ultimate hypocrisy.

[Mavey]

We have right for nuclear technology.

[AdmiralAnthony]

Originally Posted by Mavey

We have right for nuclear technology.

I have already said above that i believe you do. Just not when you have a goverment and senior religious figurehead who continue to defy the international community and threaten your neighbours.

[AdmiralAnthony]

Originally Posted by Caiman

The ultimate hypocrisy.

Yeah i know. Be very wrong of them indeed if they used mini nukes on a strike on Iranian nuclear facilities. But Israel would never consider resorting to using these kind of weapons if it did not feel so threatened by your military buildup, nuclear ambitions and your senior governments political ideals.
I remember the US was at one point considering using mini nukes (unless of course that was just media hype) in the caves and tunnels of Afghanistan before they went in in October 2001.
But it would have been wrong and they quickly changed their minds.

[Tony Sebo]

Originally Posted by Mavey

We have right for nuclear technology.

if only you had a trustworthy regime, rather than a mad cabal of religious nuts!

[Marathaman]

Seriously, all you have to do is get pally with the Americans, and you can have all the nukes on the planet. How hard is it?

[v4vendetta]

Originally Posted by Tony Sebo

if only you had a trustworthy regime, rather than a mad cabal of religious nuts!

The same could be said of Israel, Tony. Don't be going all Jewboy on us for fuck's sake!

[v4vendetta]

Originally Posted by Marathaman

Seriously, all you have to do is get pally with the Americans, and you can have all the nukes on the planet. How hard is it?

Fuck Amerika! Who left them in charge?

[TedStriker]

Originally Posted by v4vendetta

Fuck Amerika! Who left them in charge?

Britain.

[WatcherZero]

To lighten the thread a bit and since we are bashing national stereotypes anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqzpj0VltIg

[TedStriker]

Thanks, that's quite amusing.

[Mavey]

Originally Posted by v4vendetta

Fuck Amerika! Who left them in charge?

Exactly.The nuclear program started in the 1970's during the Imperial Rule of the last King of Kings.Reza Shah Pahlavi.

[Tony Sebo]

Originally Posted by Marathaman

Seriously, all you have to do is get pally with the Americans, and you can have all the nukes on the planet. How hard is it?

the propensity not to use them to blow up a whole race because of some lunatic hatred is another issue. Israel could have secured its own security years ago by blowing away a few enemy Arab cities, but they haven't. If the Iranian regime get hold of nuclear weapons on Thursday it would be WWIII by Friday morning!



V... shocking post