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Old March 29th, 2011, 09:21 PM   #241
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Look at this city sign:
Why the high "Umlaut" at the first o, and a low Umlaut above the second o ??

How does it sound by the way ? It's a totally unspeakable name to me...
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Old March 29th, 2011, 09:37 PM   #242
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There are three kinds of accents possible on the O in Hungarian:

Ó Ö Ő
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Old March 30th, 2011, 12:35 AM   #243
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Hungarian Ö is like German Ö. Ő is long Ö. You say it longer

You say it this way:

J aː s f ɛ l ʃ řː s ɛ n t ɟ ř r ɟ

help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_alphabet
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Old March 30th, 2011, 07:58 AM   #244
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How does it sound by the way ? It's a totally unspeakable name to me...
You have to divide this name to 4 logical parts:
Jász-felső-szent-györgy

Jász is the local toponym: Jászberény (town), Jász-Nagykun-Szolnok megye (county)

Felső - upper, Szent - Saint, György - George.

Than it is speakable much more better
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Old April 1st, 2011, 10:34 AM   #245
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Why the high "Umlaut" at the first o, and a low Umlaut above the second o ??

How does it sound by the way ? It's a totally unspeakable name to me...
Obviously, Zsimi80 would know better than I, but my understanding is that what you call the high umlaut (which I've seen more often as two acute accents (the French accent in words like café - I mean they're sloped that way rather than vertical) sitting side by side on the same vowel) is a sort of combination of umlaut (indicating a "rounded vowel" like the German "ö") and accent (indicating, um, something else, I forget what. Like the difference between "e" and "ee" in Dutch.) Any vowel, including "ö," can take an accent, so when an "ö" does it, that's what you get.

I have mentioned I'm a language geek, haven't I? :-) At one point I decided I'd like to be able to know enough of the European languages to be able to pronounce place names. And a Hungarian-born co-worker of mine taught me, years ago, how to say "yes" and "no" and "good morning" and so on, and count to ten. I think I still know most of the numbers....
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AL CA CT DE DC FL GA ID IL IN KY ME MD MA MI MN MO MT NH NJ NY NC ND OH OR PA RI SC SD TN UT VT VA WA WV WI WY ---
AB BC MB NB NS ON PE QC SK ---
A B CH D F GB I L NL
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Old April 1st, 2011, 01:41 PM   #246
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You have to divide this name to 4 logical parts:
Jász-felső-szent-györgy
OK, that makes sense.

But why transform it into one word ? Why not for instance:
Jászfelső Szent György (or: Jászfelső St. György)
It won't change your native pronounciation, but it is so much more comfortable for non-natives...
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Old April 1st, 2011, 03:40 PM   #247
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[runs over to Google Maps to scour the Netherlands and northern Belgium for 20-letter place names....] ;-)

EDIT:

[Finds "Haarlemmerhoutkwartier," realizes that lists of this sort of thing are easy to find on Wikipedia, learns that "Gasselterboerveenschemond" is the longest place name in the Netherlands, and leaves http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nederla...an_plaatsnamen open to read later. Because it's interesting.]
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Old April 13th, 2011, 07:54 PM   #248
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On the serbo-croatian and german sign is the old style "a".
what do you mean ?
what kind of a is that?
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Old April 14th, 2011, 05:42 PM   #249
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what do you mean ?
what kind of a is that?

Look at this sign:




There are differences between "a" letters.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 07:35 PM   #250
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ok the one opened the one closed, but i don't know what are you comparing?
The S-C and Ger are opened and that's old design?
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2 green signs are old.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 09:09 PM   #252
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haha now i finally understood what you meant.
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Tern vs. Mittelschrift Austria

For me is Mittelschrift Austria a distinct winner.


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Old August 1st, 2011, 07:52 PM   #254
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If I may get back to Hungarian signage once more — since it came up in the linguistic issues thread again a few days ago, and there is one thing that I have been wondering about.

On Hungarian signs, why are the character accents upright?

Is there a specific reasoning behind the choice, or is it more likely that it has been selected as just one possible way of writing these characters, no better or worse than some other type design?

Is it some kind of distinctly Hungarian style? For example, in comparison: I once read an article where a Polish type designer argued that in GOOD Polish typography, accents ARE different than, let's say, in French; they MUST be slightly more upright (but not fully) and differently positioned as well.

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Old August 2nd, 2011, 05:05 AM   #255
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Old September 23rd, 2011, 04:17 PM   #256
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Tern VMS near Zwolle, NL

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Old May 2nd, 2012, 02:31 AM   #257
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Hello everyone.

I want to ask you everyone a question if you don't mind.

Does anyone know what type of font Japan uses for expressway traffic signs like the one below?

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Thanks for answering.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 03:32 PM   #258
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I know it has been a month, but in case you are still watching the thread...

The peculiar font used for Japanese highway signs is called JH Gothic. It is an original "font", or perhaps the collective of stylized handwritings of each sign designers, invented by JH themselves. The font is designed for clear visibility from afar, featuring many graphic simplifications.

JH Gothic on left, normal font (Hiragino) on right.


As the original invention, the official font is not commercially available. Instead, online fans distribute the free fan-made font that emulates the original.

Some fans are even selling the T-shirts featuring the font.



In recent years, however, Nexco companies (the successor of JH) are switching the font to very much boring normal Hiragino.

Older sign (JH Gothic) on left, newer sign (Hiragino) on right.


Newer sign (Hiragino) on left, Older sign (JH Gothic) on right.


They are also switching English (Latin/Roman) font from Helvetica to Vialog, numeral font from JH Gothic to Frutiger.
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On interstate highways in the us they use... Interstate!
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