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Old August 3rd, 2015, 05:22 PM   #341
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You are using two different types of arrows. That is interesting!
Actually it's three. Each one for approaches, gantries and in-crossing (though gantry arrows are also used.).
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Old August 3rd, 2015, 05:54 PM   #342
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Well... I my opinion, Norway is a developing country what comes to signing. The graphical outlook is disciplined, yes. But how those signs are used, is not to be used as a baseline.

The basic difference in philosophy is that the Swedish signage is based on routes, and the Norwegian one on roads. That is why Norwegian signs often display insignificant places as Dombås, Røldal or Stranda as the primary (and sole) destination.

Another characteristics is that the Norwegian system is uncoordinated, and non-contiguous, i.e. random. For example E16 from Bergen: In Åsane E16xE39, the only destination displayed is Oslo. At Indre Arna, the destination is Voss. (But when joining the same roundabout from the south, both Oslo and Voss are displayed.) At the interchange of 566, the destination as Oslo again. Then, in Trengereid at the interchange of 7, the only destination is Voss. The road 7 is one of the alternative routes to Oslo. It is not signed to Oslo but to Norheimsund, to a village of 2000+ people.

A similar case is the road 5 bound for Førde: It joins E39 in Skei i Jølster to form a multiplex for the next 40+ kilometers. The name Førde is not visible at the signs at all, only at the confirmation sign after the roundabout.

A third attribute is hiding information. The distance to the destination is seldom shown and the confirmation signs are rare. There may be tens kilometers between any information about the distance to somewhere.
Just came over this post and it made me laugh . It brilliantly sums the Norwegian mentality to roads, signage and road-building as where small local villages and hamlets and their demands take priority over everything else. I bet the local politicians have discussed the signage at great length and the central government has given into these demands.

The worst example is a fairly new stretch of road 7 (one of the main roads from Oslo to Bergen) at Sokna where the local community demanded that the new road (with 10,000 ADT) should go straight through the local village with a 40 km/h speed limit and speed bumps in order to protect local businesses.
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Old August 4th, 2015, 12:20 AM   #343
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LOL - so they put the road straight into the village to protect businesses by keeping the traffic
but then tempo 40 and speed bumps to chase the traffic away
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Old December 12th, 2015, 05:55 PM   #344
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Proposal of new Slovak traffic signs with new typeface. Some are take from Germany, some from Austria, some from old Slovak ones.

Starting at page 29
http://www.ssc.sk/files/documents/te...03_12_2015.pdf
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Old December 12th, 2015, 07:17 PM   #345
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Proposal of new Slovak traffic signs with new typeface. Some are take from Germany, some from Austria, some from old Slovak ones.

Starting at page 29
http://www.ssc.sk/files/documents/te...03_12_2015.pdf
What is the meaning of the following signs:

A 10 on page 43
A 33 on page 69
C 27 on page 187

What is the difference between the signs B3 and B4 on pages 91 and 92?
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A10 - fog
A33 - accident
C27 - circumventing the tram (sample)
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Old December 12th, 2015, 07:28 PM   #347
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What is the difference between the signs B3 and B4 on pages 91 and 92?
B4 ban does not include a motorcycle without a sidecar.
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Proposal of new Slovak traffic signs with new typeface. Some are take from Germany, some from Austria, some from old Slovak ones.

Starting at page 29
http://www.ssc.sk/files/documents/te...03_12_2015.pdf
Not bad.

Scrolling through the highway sign elements, I notice:

- I like this font. Can you guys please decide on a standard font (preferably this one)?
- Wayfinding should be clear enough
- Question: Are the blue signs to be used for those future expressways you guys have planned?
- Some issues with centering in the text
- I think that route numbers should be aligned above the directional text for every exit (there was one sign where they were aligned to the arrow).
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Old December 13th, 2015, 12:35 AM   #349
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Yuk. All the signs using that terrible TERN-font.
Roadsigns should always be completely sans-serif. Always.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 10:10 AM   #350
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A10 - fog
A33 - accident
C27 - circumventing the tram (sample)
It would be nice if the states limited their creativity and used those signs agreed by the Vienna convention only.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 12:36 PM   #351
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Not bad.

Scrolling through the highway sign elements, I notice:

- I like this font. Can you guys please decide on a standard font (preferably this one)?
- Wayfinding should be clear enough
- Question: Are the blue signs to be used for those future expressways you guys have planned?

A:
It is a little bit messy. We have expressways according to their national and international importance that must always fulfil the expressway standards (those Rx roads). And we have also less important roads (primary, secondary) that can fulfil the standards of an expresway and therefore can be locally signposted as an "expresway". I think the same goes e.g. for Austria.


- Some issues with centering in the text

A: I've just finished comments on such issue. The problem is in grammar and typography too. It is a bit strange, because old traffic signs were almost perfect regarding the grammar.

- I think that route numbers should be aligned above the directional text for every exit (there was one sign where they were aligned to the arrow).

A: I though the implementation of new traffic signs would be a perfect opportunity to unify some graphic elements (e.g. arrows, etc.). I feel little disappointed. However, the comments has been sent. Anyway, I also don't like the flexible and narrow frame of road marking. It should be either fix or with larger padding.

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Old December 13th, 2015, 12:39 PM   #352
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Yuk. All the signs using that terrible TERN-font.
Roadsigns should always be completely sans-serif. Always.
Tern is not utterly serif, only some characters (e.g. I)
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Yuk. All the signs using that terrible TERN-font.
Roadsigns should always be completely sans-serif. Always.
They should just relax and use the elegant FHWA typeface
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I think a lot of people (even people ostensibly in graphic design) underestimate the importance of blank space as an organizing mechanism.

Probably the biggest problem with motorway signage is when people try to cram too much information on it. You know, going by those signs at 100+ kph (60+ mph) you only get fractions of a second to read them. Clean signs with lots of blank space are definitely necessary when designing those things.

Honestly, I think that overly flattened gantry signage seems to be a problem on European motorways in general.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 01:05 PM   #355
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Proposal of new Slovak traffic signs with new typeface. Some are take from Germany, some from Austria, some from old Slovak ones.

Starting at page 29
http://www.ssc.sk/files/documents/te...03_12_2015.pdf
Link does not work anymore.
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Old December 28th, 2015, 03:46 PM   #356
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The use of Clearview typeface is growing in Indonesia regarding the new regulations, but it comes in various types









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Here's news;

http://www.citylab.com/commute/2016/01/official-united-states-highway-sign-font-clearview/427068/
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Clearview is out, Highway Gothic is (back) in. Critics want to know why.
Because its fugly
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Old January 29th, 2016, 02:44 PM   #359
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6, 9 and g. Look at them and you know why Clearview was so inferior to Highway Gothic.
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I don't mind both...
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