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Old June 1st, 2009, 01:41 PM   #1
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MISC | Air France Flight 447 Missing

Air France Rio-Paris flight missing with 228 aboard

PARIS (Reuters) – An Air France plane on its way from Brazil to Paris has disappeared from radar screens, the Paris airports authority said on Monday.
Flight AF 447 had 228 people on board, Air France said.
It left Rio de Janeiro on Sunday at 7 p.m. and was expected in Paris on Monday at 11:15 a.m. (0915 GMT), a spokesman for the airports authority said.

Its last known location was unclear.

An Air France-KLM spokeswoman in Amsterdam said there had been no radio contact with the missing plane "for a while".
The people on board are 216 passengers and 12 crew.
The plane was an Airbus 330-200, airport authorities said.

(Reporting by Jean-Baptiste Vey; Editing by Angus MacSwan)

Gosh, I hope its just some mechanical glitch with the radar or something. Or else, i just pray for the passengers and crew on board that they survive,
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Old June 1st, 2009, 01:45 PM   #2
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that terrible noooo
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Old June 1st, 2009, 01:58 PM   #3
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Just watching CNN International. They are reporting that Brazilian Air Force jets are searching about 50-60kms off that country's coast.

Awful news, apparently it was due in Paris about 90minutes ago.

Thoughts of course with families!
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Old June 1st, 2009, 02:14 PM   #4
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Air France jet missing over Atlantic
An official says the airline has lost contact with a flilght from Brazil to Paris with 228 people aboard.
Associated Press
3:38 AM PDT, June 1, 2009

SAO PAULO, Brazil — An Air France official says the airline has lost contact with a plane carrying 228 people from Brazil to Paris.

Air France spokeswoman Brigitte Barrand says, "Air France regrets to announce that it is without news from Air France flight 447 flying from Rio to Paris."

She said today that the flight was carrying 216 passengers and 12 crew members.

Brazil's air force said a search began Monday morning near the Brazilian archipelago of Fernando de Noronha.

The plane disappeared about 186 miles northeast of the coastal Brazilian city of Natal and near Fernando de Noronha, the spokesman said.

He spoke on condition of anonymity, in keeping with Air Force policy.

Barrand says "Air France shares the emotion and worry of the families concerned."

She says the airline has installed an information center at Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport for the families of those aboard.

The flight was scheduled to arrive in Paris at 0915 GMT (5:15 a.m. EDT), according to the airport.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 02:21 PM   #5
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hoping for a miracle.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 02:25 PM   #6
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Old June 1st, 2009, 02:34 PM   #7
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Hope they could crash on some tiny tropical island and are all well.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 02:58 PM   #8
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Mann mann, the 00's have been a doom for Brazil in air disasters... The third major one involving us (in 4 years!).
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Old June 1st, 2009, 03:14 PM   #9
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This is really bad news.

Seems like the aircraft is F-GZCP (photo). It entered AF service in 2005 brand new.

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Old June 1st, 2009, 03:54 PM   #10
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R.I.P. To the people who possibly died and to the families. I hope there is the same miracle like the Air France Toronto crash.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 03:58 PM   #11
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Aviation expert describes possible scenarios (CNN)

The chances that the passengers are still alive are slim.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 05:46 PM   #12
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Aviation expert describes possible scenarios (CNN)

The chances that the passengers are still alive are slim.
I'm not really an expert,
but is it possible the plane ditched into the water,
then everyone evacuated onto the emergency slides which would be use as a flotable {pardon my english} raft?
so basically everyone is now squeezing on the life rafts

because from what i know, the Airbus A330 is quite an advanced jet, and I don't think it would be brought down that easily, like a sudden blow or something. although we do have to take into account the turbulent and violent weather.

so is it possible the plane ditched and there are survivors?
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Old June 1st, 2009, 05:52 PM   #13
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If the water is really quiet and there is good visibility as it was the case during the US Airways crash in the Hudson River yes, but the chance of that happening in a scenario where there is a storm (and thus huge waves) in the middle of the night as it is the case with this flight...definitely no.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 06:16 PM   #14
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If the water is really quiet and there is good visibility as it was the case during the US Airways crash in the Hudson River yes, but the chance of that happening in a scenario where there is a storm (and thus huge waves) in the middle of the night as it is the case with this flight...definitely no.
Oh gosh .. i'm getting more and more pessimistic every minute ..

the plane could have broke up on attempting to ditch then?
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Old June 1st, 2009, 06:24 PM   #15
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US Airways Flight 1549 was the exception to the rule. Clear weather, an extremely experienced crew (especially the captain), the relatively tranquil waters of the Hudson river and the fact the aircraft was basically in NYC, a major world metropolis with plenty of help available within minutes, made for a success story.

AF 447 probably had the odds against it, if the pilots attempted to ditch the aircraft. Just imagine ditching in the middle of the ocean, possibly during a storm and then surviving until you get rescued.

This is typically what happens to airliners when the pilot makes an attempt at ditching...

This was Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 06:37 PM   #16
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Some lingering thoughts :

1. Airplanes are designed to withstand severe turbulence and lightning strikes. They shouldn't go down so easily.

2. Appears the flight is far from the origin point, hence should be at flight level. Instruments and weather reports from the ground should readily provide the weather conditions, so pilots can avoid (eg. rise above the storm or detour) potential dangers.
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Quote:
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Some lingering thoughts :

1. Airplanes are designed to withstand severe turbulence and lightning strikes. They shouldn't go down so easily.

2. Appears the flight is far from the origin point, hence should be at flight level. Instruments and weather reports from the ground should readily provide the weather conditions, so pilots can avoid (eg. rise above the storm or detour) potential dangers.
Those are my thoughts. There certainly can be severe turbulence at altitude, but storms and lightning can be avoided. Its almost a new plane, so structurally, there should be no doubts as to its structure, even in severe turbluence. It is sooooooo rare for plane to crash once at flight level.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 07:04 PM   #18
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I will be shocked if it turns out lightning is the cause of this...
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Chairman of ThyssenKrupp unit on Air France flight

RIO DE JANEIRO (Reuters) - The chairman of German steelmaker ThyssenKrupp's Brazilian unit CSA was on board the Air France flight that disappeared over the Atlantic ocean, a company source said on Monday.
Erich Heine, chairman of Companhia Siderurgica do Atlantico and a member of ThyssenKrupp Steel's executive board, was among the 228 people on board the Air France AF 447 flight, the source said on condition of anonymity because a passenger list has not yet been made public.

CSA, a 4.5 billion-euro ($6.4 billion) joint venture between ThyssenKrupp and Brazilian mining company Vale, is set to start production in December. ThyssenKrupp controls 90 percent of the venture, while Vale owns the remaining 10 percent.

(Reporting by Denise Luna, Writing by Elzio Barreto and Todd Benson)
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Old June 1st, 2009, 08:46 PM   #20
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Nationalities of the passengers onboard AF 447

Brazil: 80
France: 76
Germany: 18
Italy: 9
US: 6
China: 5
Hungary: 4
Spain: 2
UK: 2
Morocco: 2
Ireland: 2
Angola: 1
Argentina: 1
Austria: 1
Belgium: 1
Iceland: 1
Philippines: 1
Norway: 1
Poland: 1
Romania: 1
Russia: 1
Slovakia: 1
Sweden: 1
Turkey: 1

http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-diver...009-533641.php
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