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Old May 15th, 2008, 09:24 PM   #221
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The rain is slowly coming over here. Unfortunaltely the warm weather is gone. Anyway, I'm looking forward to pics of this trip!
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Old May 15th, 2008, 09:33 PM   #222
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Great, my dad is also going to Hamburg this weekend for the first time, but he's departing from Switzerland and going by train. Btw, isn't 2,800 km too much for two days?
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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:02 PM   #223
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11 hours one way, going with a friend so it's doable. We'd leave at 1:30 am or so to have most of Saturday to see Hamburg and then leave around lunchtime on Sunday. Done more in the past.

Length and such isn't much of a worry...my main concern is the money. Not sure if I have the money to finance this!

Regarding the weather: last weekend in Stockholm at least it was 25 and sunny, absolutely beautiful! This week it's kind of chilly, around 7-10 degrees. However the weekend is looking ok...nothing like last weekend but a bit warmer and dry, at least.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:15 PM   #224
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Primærruten 13 & 12 Aars - Viborg - Herning

We head southwest after Aars, through a hilly and quite forested area. Some lakes are visible, as well as climbing lanes, and even a piece of road with 2+2 lanes with no center divider.

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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:37 PM   #225
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Nice, looking forward to the next.

Btw, did you notice the terrible road between Karup and Herning (close to Ilskov where you drove 72 km/h)? The road was made by the germans during the war with some kind of big concrete "plates", which you feel when you drive over them. They've tried to fix it many times, but it never seems to work out really well.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:43 PM   #226
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Yes, i felt that. Concrete slabs. It was not that bad though. If they really want to rehabilitate it, they have to remove the slabs and repave it with asphalt.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:53 PM   #227
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True, it's not as bad now as it has been. But I'll bet that in a year or two it's back to "normal".

Total repavement seems like the only solution to fix it yes.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 01:42 PM   #228
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1400 kms in 11 hours? Isn't that a bit too optimistic?
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Old May 16th, 2008, 01:44 PM   #229
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127 km/h on average. I really don't think that's feasible, though you shouldn't expect traffic jams. If you drive 120 the most of the time, your average is still 100km/h.

However, i did Aabenraa - Zwolle (600km) last week in 5,5 hours of continuous driving without speeding.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 02:11 PM   #230
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Is Stockholm - Hamburg really 2800 kilometers by the way? It doesn't seem that far, i saw signs in Malmö saying Stockholm was 630 kms. I don't think Hamburg is another 770 kilometers from Malmö.

According to viamichelin, it's 960 km via the ferry Rødby - Puttgarden. Via the bridges is perhaps somewhat longer, but i don't think 440 km longer.
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Yeah, Stockholm - Hamburg is just 1,115 km without ferries.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 04:49 PM   #232
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And another 25 if you count the distance travelled on the ferries (Helsingborg-Helsingör, Rodby-Puttgarden)...
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Old May 16th, 2008, 06:21 PM   #233
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No, by "without ferries" I meant the route where you don't even need ferries (Malmö-Copenhagen, and driving across the Danish mainland).
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With ferries it will be much shorter, but it might take more time.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:12 PM   #235
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The km I gave was round trip, with a bit of flexibility (and I live slightly north of STO too ). The length of time was what a few sites told me, but I have no idea how long it'll take. I don't even know if I will go yet -- if I go I will leave at 1.30 am (9.30 now) so I have to decide soon!!!

No ferries for me (if I go).
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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:16 PM   #236
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(9.30 now)
Ah the classic Stockholm time is still 20 minutes ahead to the rest of Central Europe



1.30 am leaving? That means you'll drive in the dark until somewhere near Helsingborg.
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With ferries it will be much shorter, but it might take more time.
I wonder if the difference in time will be that big. Hamburg - Copenhague via Kolding seems to be at least a 100 kms longer.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:19 PM   #238
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My clock was a bit off, I have fixed it now.

Yep, I've driven down to CPH a bunch of times so need to see that route again (but it'd be sooner anyway I think, the days are already quite long), and the main goal would be to get to spend a bit of time in Hamburg. Ferries are kind of boring I think and I'd like to see more of Denmark, so driving through it is a given for me.

Help me decide....anyone with tons of extra money they want to give to finance this?
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If you come from outside Helsingborg and take the bridge going to Odense, then you're always travelling on the E20. If you take the ferry, you leave the E20 outside Helsingborg and follow the E4, the ferry and then the E47/E55 until they coincide again in the southern suburbs of Copenhagen. This route is 50 kms shorter one way.

If you're going from Copenhagen to Hamburg by way of the E20 to Kolding and then E45 (BAB 7 in Germany) to the Maschener Kreuz just south of Hamburg you will be travelling some 500 km. If you take the E47 (BAB 1) including the Fehmarn Baelt ferry the distance is only 330 kms.

Sorry if I went too far with this one, it's just that I've travelled the itinerary Stockholm-Hamburg a few too many times. When my sisters were little they especially enjoyed taking the ferries when the bow of the ship opened. They called it Jaws.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:22 PM   #240
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The bridges cost you approximatly € 120 in total (4 times a bridge)

I've done it last year. Quite expensive, however they say the bridge or ferry route takes the same amount of time, and are both equally expensive.
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