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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:24 PM   #241
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I ordered BroBizz, which makes it cheaper already after the 2nd bridge you pass, so that part would be a tiny bit cheaper but still harsh (I didn't get it in time but can send in my receipts and they will pay me back). My main concern is the gasoline. I haven't figured out exactly how much it would be but... my car claims it gets 8.5 which is awfully high (way higher than in the brochures for the car!!) which makes it harsh.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:27 PM   #242
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11,7 km on 1 liter? That's not really fuel efficient. I went to Denmark lately (you probably noticed), and i drove 18,2 km per liter on petrol.

You have to know driving 120km/h on motorways is way more fuel efficient than driving 50km/h in Stockholm.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:38 PM   #243
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Well it is mostly my Swede who uses the car, to/from work, 15km one way, and most of that is on the motorway, so I don't get it. It used to me 8.9 though, and it's now gone down to 8.5...hopefully it'll keep going down. It's supposed to be quite a bit lower than that.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:43 PM   #244
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You can get a roundtrip ticket from Helsinborg including both of the ferries for €96 if you only stay away for the day, but since I guess these lads want to stay in Hamburg the price is about €180.

If they were to take both of the bridges the price would only be €112 with all discounts included, but there would be a 220 km deviation (per direction) which costs fuel and wears your car. Only the fuel would cost about €50.

My opinion is that the ferries are better since you get a break after driving quite a long while. But that's just me.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:47 PM   #245
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Well it is mostly my Swede who uses the car, to/from work, 15km one way, and most of that is on the motorway, so I don't get it. It used to me 8.9 though, and it's now gone down to 8.5...hopefully it'll keep going down. It's supposed to be quite a bit lower than that.
My car does about 8,5-9,0 l/100km here in Stockholm depending on the traffic and how I drive. When I fix the cruise control to 110 km/h (maximum speed limit on motorways) I have been able to make the trip Stockholm-Helsingborg on a 6,9 average, twice. And that's with a Peugeot 607.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 11:25 PM   #246
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Traffic jams and traffic lights kill your incentives for driving economically (and environmentally ofcourse).
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Old May 16th, 2008, 11:26 PM   #247
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Now I am considering maybe just CPH...a fun weekend yet much cheaper than going to HAM.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 01:06 AM   #248
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Now it's less than 700 km.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 02:37 AM   #249
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Haha, now that's cutting it short!
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Traffic jams and traffic lights kill your incentives for driving economically (and environmentally ofcourse).
My parents drive a Prius, which has a small screen on the dashboard showing how many l/100km you use. Normally we drive between 4,8 and 5,5 l/100km. The best we've done so far is 4,2l/100km over 350 km. That was last year in Poland. When driving over a lot of quiet 2-laned roads, about 80 kmh.
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Old May 18th, 2008, 09:42 PM   #251
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Back from CPH. Was fun but we spent so much total.
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Old May 18th, 2008, 10:15 PM   #252
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Did you make some nice pics?
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My parents drive a Prius, which has a small screen on the dashboard showing how many l/100km you use. Normally we drive between 4,8 and 5,5 l/100km. The best we've done so far is 4,2l/100km over 350 km. That was last year in Poland. When driving over a lot of quiet 2-laned roads, about 80 kmh.
i do with my Punto 4,5l/100km without any problems (petrol, not diesel) if i drive carefully at 2 lane road sorry for mentioning it, but Prius is a story that is made by Americans who find consumption of 5l/100km extra saving. but for Europe car with that consumption is not big deal at all
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It's true. A Toyota Aygo is also much less consuming (though it's not hybrid). Prius is just a bigger car. And I know lots of people who have a same sized car who drive 10-15l /100 km.
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true. and i'm glad that you have same opinion as i do
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Old May 18th, 2008, 10:29 PM   #256
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The difference is that hybrid cars also have a low consumption inside cities, where your diesel or petrol car is consuming much more than regular driving in the countryside or freeways.

However, i do think hybrid cars need to be developed better.
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Old May 18th, 2008, 10:31 PM   #257
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It has also turned out that producing hybrid cars is quite bad for the environment. Time to have a better looks at hybrid cars...
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Old May 18th, 2008, 11:29 PM   #258
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More! More! More!
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Old May 19th, 2008, 09:05 AM   #259
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I'll try to upload some of the motorway Herning - Vejle tonight
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Primærrute & Motorvej 18 Herning - Give

This motorway is relatively new, and is the first motorway we see in this journey in Denmark. It runs from just north of Herning to just south of Give. There was a massive traffic jam between Give and Vejle, so i turned around and took a different route to Vejle than planned.

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