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Old June 13th, 2009, 07:37 PM   #721
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Have you taken a Kopfschmerztablette?
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Old June 13th, 2009, 11:20 PM   #722
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Nice trip Panda! I was a bit in shortage of time so did a limited version of my trip.

I skipped the long motorway bits through France and Spain and headed off from Stuttgart, there took the motorway towards Munich, headed south towards Innsbruck before leaving the motorway for local roads passed ski resorts as Kitzbuhel to the start of the Grossglockner pass (really worth a visit!), drove over it and headed towards Klagenfurt. From Klagenfurt headed to Graz then went south towards Maribor. In Slovenia north of Maribor I took a brand new motorway A5 (not listed in satnavs and on google maps) directly towards lake Balaton in Hungary. Since Slovenia and Hungary now belong to the European Shengen countries there are no more borders and custom checks, between Slovenia and Hungary you will only see a small sign on the new motorway that indicates the border. In Hungary there's still a bit of 1+1 on the M7 before merging onto the rest of the new M7 motorway that connects Budapest with Zagreb in Croatia. I continued to Budapest but had to stop in Siofok, stretched town on the shores of lake Balaton (very light blue water). In Siofok is Hotel Azur where you can have some nice drinks on the edge of their pool with views over their gardens and the lake.

Stayed in Budapest for a night or two before continuing to Prague via Slowakia. Last time I was there I drove in opposite direction from Prague to Budapest and missed the motorway exit at Bratislava so had to drive through Bratislava (nice city!). From Prague drove via Plzen towards Nurnberg, in Germany using the new A6 extention from the intersection with the A93 towards Nurnberg. From Nurnberg I followed the A3 all the way to Oberhausen , a lot of roadworks especially in the bit between wurzburg and Frankfurt.

That was it.

I might do another smaller trip to Poland in not to long.

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Grossglockner:


Lake Balaton @ Hotel Azur, Siofok:


Prague:


Heavy Rain while the sun shines on the A3 between Wurzburg & Frankfurt:


Dry bit on the A3 near Frankfurt Airport:


Bad weather ahead at the A3 between Frankfurt & Cologne:


Hope you like it!

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Old June 13th, 2009, 11:28 PM   #723
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Was there a traffic jam near Würzburg on A3? I was there 2 weeks ago on a saturday around 17.00 hours, had no congestion, but user Palance drove there half an hour earlier and was stuck in traffic.
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Old June 14th, 2009, 01:03 AM   #724
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From Klagenfurt headed to Graz then went south towards Maribor. In Slovenia north of Maribor I took a brand new motorway A5 (not listed in satnavs and on google maps) directly towards lake Balaton in Hungary. Since Slovenia and Hungary now belong to the European Shengen countries there are no more borders and custom checks, between Slovenia and Hungary you will only see a small sign on the new motorway that indicates the border. In Hungary there's still a bit of 1+1 on the M7
That's M70. So you went from Graz to Budapest through Slovenia. Was it worth buying a 35-€ vignette for 90 km?
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Old June 14th, 2009, 12:30 PM   #725
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That's M70. So you went from Graz to Budapest through Slovenia. Was it worth buying a 35-€ vignette for 90 km?
Yeah, empty motorways and beautiful weather

One question though, I did see toll stations on the M70, is it possible not to buy the 6 month vignet for € 35 and just pay tolls at the toll stations?
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Old June 14th, 2009, 12:33 PM   #726
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Was there a traffic jam near Würzburg on A3? I was there 2 weeks ago on a saturday around 17.00 hours, had no congestion, but user Palance drove there half an hour earlier and was stuck in traffic.
No problems at all. We were very lucky, only had a small traffic jam coming in to Budapest and on the A8 between Stuttgart and Munich. And the weather forecast was 6 days of solid rain while in the end we only had a day of rain while in Budapest and near Frankfurt two times 20 minutes of heavy rains. So overall been very lucky! Highest temperature was in Hungary (30 degrees+) while on the Grossglockner it was 10 degrees (2600 meters)
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One question though, I did see toll stations on the M70, is it possible not to buy the 6 month vignet for € 35 and just pay tolls at the toll stations?
M70 = Hungary
€ 35 vignette = Slovenia

Toll stations in Slovenia are only for trucks.
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Old June 14th, 2009, 02:23 PM   #728
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Wow great pics. I'm going on a roadtrip too, via Cochem and the rest of Germany and now I'n really looking forward.
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Old June 14th, 2009, 02:30 PM   #729
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M70 = Hungary
€ 35 vignette = Slovenia

Toll stations in Slovenia are only for trucks.
Sorry ment the A5

I swear I saw a couple cars cue for the toll stations. The Slovenian system sucks though, how can you expect people to buy a 35€ 6-month vignet while they only need it say 2 times in a 10 day period.
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Old June 14th, 2009, 06:57 PM   #730
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The funniest thing is that the biggest complaints come from Austria and Italy (apart from Croatia). Austria, which charges every possible tunnel and Italy, which (together with France and Switzerland) charges ridiculous tolls for the Frejus, Mont Blanc and Grand-Saint-Bernard tunnels. I don't think a 5.8-km tunnel is worth more than 500 km of Slovenian motorways, which you can use several times for half a year.
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Old June 15th, 2009, 07:58 AM   #731
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My last visit:

Slovenia: 35 EUR

Austria: 7,70 for a 10-day vignette
2 x 9,50 for the Tauerntunnel


Total: 26,70 EUR. If you take the Karawankentunnel in it (let's say: one timne, since it is half Austrain, hald Slovenian), than it will cost you 6,50 EUR more, 33,20 EUR in total for a returntrip in 10 days, so that is almost the same price as you pay in Slovenia.

If you'd decide to return after 10 days, it will not cost you more in Slovenia, bus 7,70 EUR more in Austria.

A lots of complaints about Slovenia, but the price does not differ that much from Austria.
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Old June 15th, 2009, 02:15 PM   #732
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I'm all for the cheapest Slovenian vignette to be cheaper, but Austria and Italy (and the rest of the EU, which complains too) should lower tolls as well.
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Old June 17th, 2009, 12:39 PM   #733
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Motorways of France, Germany and Belgium from those photos above are in good shape, very nice... really great routes and of course great photos
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Old June 18th, 2009, 03:35 PM   #734
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Hmmm, I had to postpone it... didn't feel well all night and now I have kopfschmerzen
How about tomorrow?
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Old June 18th, 2009, 03:40 PM   #735
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Old July 8th, 2009, 06:03 PM   #736
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So my trip is over, I took ca. 700 pics, but only from route Łódź - Lwów, because on the way back I took a well known route:



Section I DK1/91 Łódź - Piotrków Trybunalski (35 km)

Section II DK12/74 Piotrków Trybunalski - Sulejów (12km)

Section III DK74 Sulejów - Kielce - Opatów (145km)

Section IV DK9 Opatów - Lipnik (11km)

Section V DK77 Lipnik - Przemyśl (165km)

Section VI DK28/M11 Przemyśl - Lwów(Львів) (90km)
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Old July 8th, 2009, 11:42 PM   #737
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PLH, upgrade to Pro today! A lot of pics are visible though. What a great trip! And what a bad road on the Ukrainian side, even though it's short and their main link with the West. Those Polish roads are way better. It's interesting how even eastern Poland looks much richer than western Ukraine.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 02:07 PM   #738
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here are pictures i took from vienna-budapest-szeged-arad road taken during my one week bus trip to vienna:
http://picasaweb.google.com/rmihailucian/Vienna#
unfortunately i couldn't take photos of more romanian roads because we travelled through romania during the night.the route chosen was the classical one: vienna-A4-M1-budapest(M0)-M5-Szeged-national road 43-nagylak-national road DN7-arad-sibiu-pitesti-bucharest.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 02:32 PM   #739
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I want to make another roadtrip, but weather has been quite bad for the last weeks... Hard to plan this in advance. I was thinking about a 2 - 3 day trip including the Polish A4 and German A20. But I'm not sure.
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I did a lot of road trips over the years, will try to put some pics up later first a list of trips:
  • Amsterdam -> Paris -> Le Mans -> Biaritz -> Bilbao -> Pamplona -> San Sebastian -> Paris -> Amsterdam
  • Amsterdam -> Le Mans -> Nice -> Dijon -> Amsterdam
  • Amsterdam -> Cannes -> Monaco -> Amsterdam
  • Amsterdam -> Berlin -> Venice -> Stuttgart -> Düsseldorf
  • Düsseldorf -> Berlin -> Prague -> Budapest -> Zagreb -> Dubrovnik -> Lake Garda -> Monaco -> Zurich
  • London -> Spa -> Brussels
  • Amsterdam -> Zurich -> Verbier -> Aosta -> Modena -> Zurich -> Stuttgart -> Amsterdam
  • Rotterdam -> Geneva -> Turin -> Cannes -> Paris -> Rotterdam
  • Amsterdam -> Enschede -> Papenburg -> Luxemburg -> Zurich -> Amsterdam
  • Milano -> Monza -> Stuttgart -> Nurburg -> Neuremberg -> Munich -> Amsterdam
  • Geneva -> Milano -> Nurburg -> Amsterdam
  • Cape Town -> Swellendam -> Knysna -> Cape Town -> Clanwilliam -> Cape Town
  • Miami -> New Orleans -> San Antonio -> Tuscon -> Las Vegas -> Los Angeles -> San Francisco
  • London -> Stuttgart -> Klagenfurt -> Budapest -> Prague -> Nurburg -> Brussels
  • Amsterdam -> Berlin -> Poznan -> Amsterdam

I can't remember all the single destination drives, don't think they count as road trips anyway. This map shows all roads driven:

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