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Old May 18th, 2010, 02:41 PM   #1001
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Great picture report Panda!
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Old May 18th, 2010, 03:34 PM   #1002
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Old May 18th, 2010, 03:37 PM   #1003
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I still have some photos...

"Vama" means border control point, like douane in french or zoll in german:



A kilometer mark:



Closer and closer to river Prut:



At Oancea border point, also enhancing its facilities for Schengen:



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Old May 18th, 2010, 03:40 PM   #1004
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On the western side of Prut river, on the national road to Galati:







From this point it wasn't possible to take photos anymore, as it was darker and darker. There were just about 40km till Galati and another 15 to Braila.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 03:56 PM   #1005
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That's all from my trip to Moldova&Ukraine. All in all an interesting trip, I never been before to Ukraine and to Moldova I've been only once, but about 15 years ago. We (me and some romanian forumers like LeClerk and Nebunul) intend to go to Chisinau this summer for a weekend trip. So more photos from moldavian roads and places in 2-3 months time.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 06:29 PM   #1006
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many thanks for these pics, I have never seen roadpics from this part of Europe before
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Old May 18th, 2010, 07:17 PM   #1007
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Great report, Panda! I've enjoyed it
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Old May 18th, 2010, 07:37 PM   #1008
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Thanks again Panda! Looks like roads in S Moldova are a bit better than those in S Ukraine or they don't have that many potholes.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 07:59 PM   #1009
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Although the income in Odesa oblast is above average, it looks like it's mostly in Odesa City. These rural areas look very poor. The roads probably have been paved once in the 60's by the Soviets and never received maintenance since. A lot of work to do here.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 08:47 PM   #1010
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Although the income in Odesa oblast is above average, it looks like it's mostly in Odesa City. These rural areas look very poor. The roads probably have been paved once in the 60's by the Soviets and never received maintenance since. A lot of work to do here.
Yes, Odesa is quite a wealthy city to ukrainian standards, but this area of the oblast is poor because it's quite isolated from the rest of the county and country and also from Romania as borders are quite hard to pass. The main route to Odesa (E87) passes through Moldova for some kilometres (Palanca region) and the distance to oblast capital is very high (more than 300km from Reni, meaning 6-7 hours on this kind of roads).
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Old May 18th, 2010, 09:43 PM   #1011
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they also have to clean up sides of the road. they are full of garbage. I don't understand why people are throwing those things trough windows while travelling.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 10:15 PM   #1012
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they also have to clean up sides of the road. they are full of garbage. I don't understand why people are throwing those things trough windows while travelling.
I don't think the garbage comes from drivers, but mainly from the villagers who are throwing it where they can. Surely there is no functional system of garbage collecting in these villages. We have similar problems here in Romania, but on a much smaller case. But at least here situation improved a lot in the last years.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 10:16 PM   #1013
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How did you find Ukraine compared to Romania? The image of Romania in Western Europe is probably something like in those pictures.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 10:21 PM   #1014
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How did you find Ukraine compared to Romania? The image of Romania in Western Europe is probably something like in those pictures.
I can't wait for Panda's answer. He is from a relatively poor Romanian city near the border with Moldova and Ukraine, yet he traveled a lot in Europe.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 11:53 PM   #1015
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Great pictures! I've always been fascinated by Moldova for some reason. Was this road trip recent? From the few trees that are there, I wonder why some of them barely have any leaves.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 12:40 AM   #1016
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well, romanian roads look great compared to ukrainian ones.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 02:19 AM   #1017
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Old May 19th, 2010, 09:36 AM   #1018
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This area looks so depressive.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 09:39 AM   #1019
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Great pictures! I've always been fascinated by Moldova for some reason. Was this road trip recent? From the few trees that are there, I wonder why some of them barely have any leaves.
The trip was done on 10th of April.

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I don't have a general picture of Ukraine as I've been to only a small part of this huge country to european standards. But regarding this part of country, it looks somewhat like 1997 Romania. The roads are pretty poor and some block of flats in the towns look uninhabitable.Regarding village houses, they look like in the romanian region of Baragan, meaning they are poor, with no installations excepting electricity.
The mentality of people seemed not to changed a lot since Soviet times, we were on the verge of being arrested because of not having a stamped paper at the border. We completed that paper, but we didn't know it must be stamped because nobody explained this to us. On that paper you must provide a real adress to where you are going in Ukraine. I asked the man at the border to tell us a street and a number in the town of Reni. They are not used with tourists, they looked at us as we were smugglers.
In Romania a lot of things changed in the last years, our communist blocks of flats are rehabilitated thermally and aestethically, our national roads are better and better, we are building some motorways, we see more and more beautiful houses in the towns and villages, our old Dacia's are no more than a relic of the past. We have at least 3-4 malls and hypermarkets in every city of more than 120-130k inhabitants. We enjoy travelling freely in Europe and many of us been at least once in central or western part of it.
I think now Moldova has a chance with this pro-western government, while Ukraine chose another direction at the last elections.

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Old May 19th, 2010, 07:11 PM   #1020
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"Vama" means border control point, like douane in french or zoll in german:
I suppose this is related to the Hungarian "Vám"?

Thanks you for your pictures. The small 'transit' part between Romania and Ukraine in the south (how long is it? I can hardly be more than 5 km) is interesting. This should cause a lot of delay in someone's trip, 2 borderposts in such a short range.
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