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Old April 19th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #101
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I'm a bit biased, but I'd suggest taking a turn through Macedonia also

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Going down from Dubrovnik to Tirana is doable, but from Tirana down to Greece I would say is not good, road is in terrible condition and if your car hits a puthole and breaks down you're ****ed. Maybe you can go from Tirana through Macedonia to Greece instead.
The roads are good on the (red) part of the route that I've drawn. There are some nice towns along the way, most of all Ohrid:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=439985
Ohrid and the whole lake area is stunning. It is UNESCO's both cultural and natural heritage protected site.

Also there are some other interesting towns on the route, Bitola for example:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=213696
If you are into archeology, there are two very important archeological sites just by the road.
Heraclea Lyncestis:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclea_Lyncestis
and Stobi:http://www.build.com.mk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=161

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Old April 19th, 2008, 08:40 PM   #102
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yes you shouldn't miss it
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Old April 19th, 2008, 08:44 PM   #103
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Oh, if you're into caves (or just wanna cool down a bit), the Postojna Cave in Slovenia is breathtaking and Slovenia's top tourism site, with the country's only metro.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 09:57 PM   #104
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Oh, if you're into caves (or just wanna cool down a bit), the Postojna Cave in Slovenia is breathtaking and Slovenia's top tourism site, with the country's only metro.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 02:47 AM   #105
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City trips and culture:
I'd add Kotor and Budva

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Fun, beaches and nightlife:
Budva seems to be quite nice


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-Are euro's widely accepted?
As for Croatia yes, but you only get back HRK (Kuna).
In Montenegro Euro is the official currency (without being an official member of the Euro-Zone)
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Old April 20th, 2008, 02:52 AM   #106
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In Bosnia there are still many mined areas. Drive only asphalted roads, don't step aside.
Also in Croatia thera are some mined areas e.g. near Zadar, on the Island of Vis and in eastern Slavonia
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Old April 20th, 2008, 03:50 AM   #107
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If you are willing to endure some serious congestion on main 2-lane highways, you can also go through Romania.

I especially recommend:
1. The Prahova Valley for some nice scenery. My favourite town is Busteni. You can take the cable-car to the plateau (at 2200m +) or you can hike through the thick forest (it's a different experience than going through an alpine forest, trust me - it's denser and you can actually smell the scent of fir trees). A great walk would be to Urlatoarea (Howling) waterfall.
Also in Sinaia you can visit the Peles Castle - a magnificent piece of architecture. The resort itself has a distinct architectural style (except for the commieblocks & hotels and the glass-covered villas )

2. Also Bran Castle (a.k.a. Dracula's) is very nice.

3. Ceausescu's palace in Bucharest is worth a look.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 05:14 AM   #108
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Thanks for all your comments so far!

Ohrid and its lake look very interesting and if the road from Greece through Albania is really that bad it might be a good alternative. Too bad we have to skip Corfu then.
About Greece: Any cities with good nightlife and beaches on the route from Turkey towards Thessaloniki?

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why not visiting Belgrade
I don't really know much about Belgrade, is it worth visiting and safe? (no offence but what we hear about it is not always positive)

About Istanbul: Is it easy to find a affordable hotel or hostel? any suggestions?
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Old April 20th, 2008, 11:30 AM   #109
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A couple friends of mine have been to Belgrade and said it was good fun and quite safe.

Albanian road:



But as you can see in the Albanian highways topic most of the roads are much better:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=18896608
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The whole region is more safe than any town in the states. So the questions like is it safe etc. are really
And there are mines in whole Europe dating from WW2, but it doesn't mean it is unsafe to travel trough Europe. Mines in Bosnia are in very remoted areas and if u wanted to step on one u would reallly have to make effort.
And no one will rip u off if u pay in euros.

My suggestions for Bosnia are Mostar, Pocitelj and Bunda
They are really close to Adriatic so it will not be mayor de-tour.
The town Mostar is worth visiting, old core is under Unesco protetcion (look at today's banner)
There is river Buna well and old Tekija, great nature, culture and history.
Same goes for Pocitelj.

Rafting on Neretva river is really great expirience.

http://www.bhtourism.ba/eng/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mostar
http://www.visitmostar.net/

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Old April 20th, 2008, 11:41 AM   #111
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@ CborG

I'd say Belgrade is as safe as any big city in Europe.

And don't worry about accommodation in Istanbul. The central parts are riddled with small/medium affordable hotels. You don't even need suggestions, you can literally arrive there in 3am and find a place in no time (happened to me once )
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Old April 20th, 2008, 11:48 AM   #112
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The whole region is more safe than any town in the states. So the questions like is it safe etc. are really
And there are mines in whole Europe dating from WW2, but it doesn't mean it is unsafe to travel trough Europe. Mines in Bosnia are in very remoted areas and if u wanted to step on one u would reallly have to make effort.
And no one will rip u off if u pay in euros.
CborG was asking for honest opinions not for Balkan propaganda
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i'd say that the most dangerous place in Belgrade is Slavija roundabout because it is the most confusing intersection at Balkan that's all about Belgrade being dangerous.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 12:11 PM   #114
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Thanks for all your comments so far!

Ohrid and its lake look very interesting and if the road from Greece through Albania is really that bad it might be a good alternative. Too bad we have to skip Corfu then.
About Greece: Any cities with good nightlife and beaches on the route from Turkey towards Thessaloniki?
Well I'd say the Asprovalta region including the Halkidiki Penensula !For Halkidiki
you should know that Mount Athon is the most peaceful,Sithounia is not so quiet but again peaceful and last Kassandra is the bussiest of all but there you can have a lot of fun !Anything to add my Greek friends?
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Old April 20th, 2008, 12:36 PM   #115
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Mostar is ruined, but really beautiful city.

Landscapes.






Bridge.




Other bridges and river.




Mosques.




Mostar by night.




War reminders.






I guess in 5 years this will be a great located 5-star hotel.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 12:38 PM   #116
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Why haven't they demolished that building?
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Old April 20th, 2008, 01:40 PM   #117
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CborG was asking for honest opinions not for Balkan propaganda
and where do u see propaganda?
Well all those bullshits riping off, mines, unsafety that is real propaganda.
And also i am sure that Amsterdam is less safe than any town in Bosnia.
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Why haven't they demolished that building?
because it is under protection and they can not demolish it. And there is not enough funds to repeare whole Mostar at once.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 01:58 PM   #119
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Can't you understand my doubts? Various travel sites on the internet all state that landmines are still a big issue in rural area's. The bigger cities maybe relatively safe but the thousands of UN troops still stationed in Bosnia are there for a reason, and i recon it isn't because of the historic cities en nature. I would love to visit Bosnia someday, no doubt, only not this holiday.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 02:08 PM   #120
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About Istanbul: Is it easy to find a affordable hotel or hostel? any suggestions?
You can find every kind of hotel easily just in minutes But you know it's a huge city, I mean HUUGE... so be careful and try to find tidy, clean and straight hotel, otherwise you can find yourself in a gay party or in an ultra dirty twister place etc... I advice you to make some search on web, learn more things about districts and I advice you to stay around Taksim or Nisantasi which is very enjoyable both at day and night or if you have more money try to find somewhere around Bosphorus' districts
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