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Old July 5th, 2013, 11:47 AM   #1701
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very neat roads in Danmark. why did you chose normal road instead of motorway?
Well, the E45 was packed with trucks and it was raining heavilly. My wife didn't appreciate that, so we took another route. Also when on vacation it's interesting to drive through the towns and see what they look like. I saw Vejle and Åbenrå. Only because there is a motorway it doesn't mean that you must use it. I can understand if the daily commuters drive on the motorway, for them it's only a matter of reaching their destination as fast as possible.


Part 3 of my Scandinavian Roadtrip


Assens-Helsingör distance 235km

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Cold waters of Denmark in late june.

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Odense and the Great Belt Bridge


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Rest Area


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Rest area along the E20 at Odense

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It's raining

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E20 at Slagelse


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Road 14 at Ringsted

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Soon in Roskilde

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Roskilde

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Helsingör Harbour
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Old July 5th, 2013, 03:36 PM   #1702
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Old routes next to motorways in Denmark are often quite alright, they aren't as downgraded as they are in the Netherlands. I've driven parts of SR-170 and SR-161 which run parallel to E45 and E20 respectively. They are quite straight and sometimes wide with shoulders.
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Old July 5th, 2013, 11:20 PM   #1703
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Old routes next to motorways in Denmark are often quite alright, they aren't as downgraded as they are in the Netherlands. I've driven parts of SR-170 and SR-161 which run parallel to E45 and E20 respectively. They are quite straight and sometimes wide with shoulders.
Which sort of downgrading do you refer to? Lowering the roads' administrative class or making technical changes?
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Old July 5th, 2013, 11:47 PM   #1704
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In the Netherlands, ''downgrading" means any measure to force traffic off a particular route. This includes physical changes to the road layout, such as chicanes, narrowing, lower speed limits, speed bumps, obstacles with alternating traffic flow, etcetera.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 11:12 PM   #1705
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E6: Helsingborg-Falkenberg



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Still raining

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E6 outside Halmstad

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Looking out the window

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Overtaking a bus on the E6. The yellow numbered exit signs were introduced some 10 years ago.

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The weather is improving

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Summertime is maintenance-time on the motorways, which can result in congestions.

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Arrival at the camping
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Old July 8th, 2013, 02:44 AM   #1706
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nice countryside
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Old July 8th, 2013, 10:18 AM   #1707
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In the Netherlands, ''downgrading" means any measure to force traffic off a particular route. This includes physical changes to the road layout, such as chicanes, narrowing, lower speed limits, speed bumps, obstacles with alternating traffic flow, etcetera.
Ok, the Dutch interpretation about downgrading is more or less equals to discouraging to use the old road.

In that context, I think Denmark and Finland have taken rather a similar approach: The old road remains as a regional road, and no major actions are taken to keep the traffic away.

In Finland, the the main roads 1, 3, 4 and 7 have been (or will be) replaced by motorways up to 140-180 kilometes from Helsinki. The old roads are nowadays numbered 110, 130, 140 and 170 respectively. With some minor exceptions, the roads are currently in the same shape as when they were main roads.


Downgrade action on the former 1/E18

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Old July 8th, 2013, 02:15 PM   #1708
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What is the reason for so heavy downgrading in NL?
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Old July 8th, 2013, 04:03 PM   #1709
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Scandinavian Roadtrip - Final Part




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Morup Church. We left the camping and drived towards Ullared.

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Trucking Company along the road.

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Road 154 to Ullared

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Bad weather again

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Ullared a budget shopping centre in the middle of nowhere

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People from all over the country and from other nordic countries drive to Ullared for the shopping.

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A +120.000EUR RV

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Lots of RV's and buses

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The Parkinglot is usually full

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Tourbus from Norway

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Ullared has its own realityshow. (but I don't watch it.)

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Time for lunch

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The Cockpit of my Car.

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Back on the road, this one is national road no 26

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Refueling 55km south of Jönköping.

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Road 40 West of Jönköping A 2+1 road with a great deal of traffic.

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Onwards a steep section of the road 40

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Heavy truck on the move

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At last some really slow congested traffic on the motorway
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Old July 13th, 2013, 01:06 PM   #1710
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Fly trip to Adriatic Sea in Croatia:

Praha-Brno-Mikulov-Lednice-Breclav (CZ) -Austria-Balaton (Hungary) - Maribor (Slovenia) - Zagreb (HR) - Karlovac - Velebit - Primosten

Unfortunatelly reportage only in Czech language:

http://cestovani.idnes.cz/chorvatske...chorvatsko_jdv
Totally 41 pictures available there.

Video from Croatian coast:

http://video.idnes.cz/?c=A130703_220..._tv-zpravy_Eli
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Old August 13th, 2013, 06:23 PM   #1711
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Hello! I went to buy some nice Hungarian wine...


Dk52 near Wadowice.


Former Dk52, 96, E7 and E462 going through Wadowice market place.




Dk (National road) 28.












Dual carriageway part of so called "Zakopianka" - road infamous for its heavy traffic.






We are heading towards former border crossing in Jurgów.


Tatra mountains in the back ground. By the way, have you ever heard about Zion Train? No? Anyway, they played on this field some 13-14 years ago.




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Old August 13th, 2013, 06:30 PM   #1712
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Poland/Slovakia border.









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Slovakia.







Spisska Bela.


Kezmarok.






Poprad.




Towards Presov.


Such interesting architectural mixture would not be possible anywhere outside former communist block.


For some unknown reasons I had not bought Slovak vignette yet, so had to follow I18.


Construction of D1.








Beautiful town of Levoča.






Spišský hrad, one of the largest medieval castle in Europe. This UNESCO site can be seen from D1.




Castle again.
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Slovakia.

Approaching longest road's tunnel in Slovakia.














Presov.


Older D1 stretch connecting Prešov and Košice.


R4 near Košice.
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Old August 13th, 2013, 07:22 PM   #1715
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Slovakia - Lunik IX.

Short circle around this horrible place. Apart from unpleasant look of Lunik IX, there is also incredibly strong, hard to describe, nostrils' irritating smell. People living there seemed to be rather curious than unfriendly, however, I wasn't plucky enough to jump of my rolling shelter and have a chat with them.
















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Old August 13th, 2013, 11:18 PM   #1716
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You're trip reminded me of my trip 3 months ago thorugh Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania. Didn't go to visit Lunik IX though
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[QUOTE=piotr71;106130259]Hello! I went to buy some nice Hungarian wine...


Former Dk52, 96, E7 and E462 going through Wadowice market place.


Nice to see the results of the reconstruction at main square in Wadowice. The old road is currently closed for buses and trucks.....
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Old August 15th, 2013, 10:16 AM   #1718
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That dual-carriageway bit on Zakopianka going up the hill from Chabówka isn't that bad, and neither is that bit in Rabka just after where the 7 splits of to Chyżne. The 7/47 intersection is however where the problems start going the other direction (and of course Zakopane-Szaflary and the road up Klikuszowa, but Zakopane-Szaflary doesn't apply to me, and the road up to Klikuszowa is not often delayed more than 10 minutes, unless there's an accident), if you're unlucky it can sometimes take up to one hour going from Rabka to Lubień...

Alternatively, leave DK 47 in Rdzawka at the Statoil, go down the road through Rdzawka into Rabka, go through Rabka to the 28 and from there turn right at the new roundabout towards Mszana. At Mszana, turn left towards Lubień and go on the highway there. This takes about 35 minutes - but it will always take about 35 minutes, so when Zakopianka is clogged with vehicles carrying W* ***** registrations, it will be much faster.

Oh, and the house of my fiancee's parents can be seen on one of your pictures...
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Hungary/Slovakia border, Tisza lake and Puszta.





Advanced roadworks on Slovak side.








Tisza lake.


Myself.


National road 33. Direction Debrecen.


Alonside the road. Road crosses beautiful Puszta.






















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I saw a lot of those hey ballots in Slovakia last week
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