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Old April 16th, 2015, 04:52 PM   #1841
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Guys I could use some help with a road trip I'm doing in July: Germany to North Cape. Some stops are fixed but apart from that I could use some help with sights / monuments / nature worth visiting along the route and which are the nicest roads to drive.

Also some tips of what to see in the cities would be great.

Planned stops:

Leipzig
Warsaw
Riga
Tallinn
Helsinki

I know the Berlin - Poznan area so prefer to go south between Leipzig and Warsaw via Dresden and Wroclaw. Everything after that is new territory.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 10:10 AM   #1842
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Guys I could use some help with a road trip I'm doing in July: Germany to North Cape. Some stops are fixed but apart from that I could use some help with sights / monuments / nature worth visiting along the route and which are the nicest roads to drive.

Also some tips of what to see in the cities would be great.

Planned stops:

Leipzig
Warsaw
Riga
Tallinn
Helsinki

I know the Berlin - Poznan area so prefer to go south between Leipzig and Warsaw via Dresden and Wroclaw. Everything after that is new territory.
I definately prefer Tallinn compared to Riga. Tallinn as a city is more welcoming, easygoing and touristy.
I was there in 1998 the last time, back then it still had a bit of that soviet gloom. Talllinn has a quaint old town, go see the Round Tower.
The inner city is small and it's easy to walk around.

Photos I took in 1998

The round tower

The port and the ferry to Sweden.

I dont see why people want to drive to the North Cape, there is really nothing special to see there. I wouldnt go further than Rovaniemi and then on the way back drive through Sweden to Trelleborg,
then take the ferry to Sassnitz back to Germany.

I'm probably going to Rugen again this summer, and there's going to be a some shorter roadtrips in northern Germany.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 01:56 PM   #1843
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I dont see why people want to drive to the North Cape, there is really nothing special to see there.
Probably because it's closest in Europe to the North Pole. Interestingly, no one really cares about other European extremities (westernmost, southernmost).
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Old April 17th, 2015, 02:33 PM   #1844
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Probably because it's closest in Europe to the North Pole. Interestingly, no one really cares about other European extremities (westernmost, southernmost).
The North Cape is the northernmost point you can drive to in the whole world. The southernmost point you can drive to must be Ushuaia, Argentina.

The western/easternmost point doesnt attract tourists. In Europe it would be difficult to determinethe where it is. Is it the Azores to the west ? Since they have no regular car ferry (?) the westernmost point to drive to would probably be at the westernfjords of Iceland ( car-ferry from DK) . To the east it would be slighlty east of Yekaterinburg, Russia. To the south maybe Crete if they have a regular car ferry otherwise Tarifa, the southern tip of Spain or take the ferry to the spanish enclave Ceuta which belongs to Europe but is located in Africa.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 03:11 PM   #1845
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I've been contemplating about driving to Vadsø, the easternmost point in Norway, located on an island in the Barents Sea. North Cape seems overpriced and the scenery is not as spectacular as farther southwest. Driving across Lofoten seems more interesting than North Cape from a scenery point of view. Though I can relate to drive all the way to the northernmost point on the European mainland. Although Cape Nordkinn is technically the northernmost point of the mainland. And Knivskjellodden is also farther north than North Cape (on the same island).
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Old April 17th, 2015, 03:28 PM   #1846
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And Knivskjellodden is also farther north than North Cape (on the same island).
Aparently, it was discovered much later, when North Cape was already known as the northernmost point in Europe, as no accurate latitude measurement was possible with old technologies.
Moreover, you cannot drive to Knivskjellodden, but you have to hike 9 km each way from the E69 road. While it's not particularily challenging (it's not a 4000+ meters mountain to climb), this still prevents the majority of tourists to visit the place.
Nordkinn can be reached by motorized vehicles, even though it requires driving several kilometers of dirt road, but again is virtually untouched by tourists, that prever to visit North Cape. There's only a parking lot and a lighthouse at Nordkinn.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 09:56 PM   #1847
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I've been contemplating about driving to Vadsø, the easternmost point in Norway
Dont you mean Vardö ? The easternmost point of Norway. Helsinki, St Petersburg, Tallinn and Stockholm are closer to Vardö than Oslo. Murmansk is only 170km away.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 10:54 PM   #1848
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Yes I meant Vardø (Vadsø is a nearby town). Vardø looks south into Russia It's at the terminus of E75.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 11:10 PM   #1849
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I'm positively surprised about how goods are roads in Norway, even in the most remote Arctic wastelands. I don't mean the E6, that is still an important road, or the E69, that leads to a main touristic attraction, but even small remote roads like in Vardø peninsula are paved and with lines.
Fo example this road leads to an unhabitated promontory north of Vardø, yet they bothered to paint lines.
And also it surpises me that many small islands are connected with very expensive tunnels and bridges. You can explore the whole Lofoten\Vesterålen archipelago only with your car, without taking any ferry. Is something you don't see in Mediterranean countries.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 12:07 AM   #1850
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Probably because it's closest in Europe to the North Pole. Interestingly, no one really cares about other European extremities (westernmost, southernmost).
I've been to the western and southernmost places of continental Europe
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Both France and Spain have a locality called 'end of the world' at their western extreme point. Finistère in France and Cape Finisterre in Spain.
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I've been to the western and southernmost places of continental Europe
I know. I've only been to the easternmost point of Australia. I met two Slovenians there.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 02:00 AM   #1853
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I know. I've only been to the easternmost point of Australia. I met two Slovenians there.
not easternmost part of... Austria?
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I don't care about that (except for the fact that it's a tripoint as well, but I've never visited it).
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Old July 4th, 2015, 08:40 PM   #1855
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Roadtrip 2015


1) Cloudy and rainy weather, the southbound right lane is closed due roadwork on the E4 north of Jönköping.


2) Klevshult south of Jönköping. Still cloudy but the raining ceased.


3) Exit at Värnamo.


4) Driving through the small city of Värnamo.


5) Time for lunch. Kebabtallrik tastes good after a few hours drive.



6) Filling up my car with biofuel.



7) Truck passing on a 2+1 section of the E4 at Laganland.


8) What happend to this car ? Dangerous place to stop at.


9) The cockpit


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10) Motorcycle riding, it can't be very comfortable in the rain.


11) Exiting the motorway in Markaryd.


12) Road 117


13) Road 21


14) The luggage


15) Custon. A nice truckstop along the road 23.


16) I think this is Höör, Skåne. The very south part of Sweden.

In my next post the journey continues south.
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17) A polish lorry on the E22.


18) Next exit on the E22 is Lund N.


19) Central Lund.


20) The scientologists have a tent on a square in central Lund, where they perform "stress-tests"


21) Road 108



22) Arrival in Trelleborg.


22) Camping outside Trelleborg.

In my next post the journey continues to a continental-european city...
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Nice Ś in Świnoujście
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Old July 6th, 2015, 11:51 AM   #1858
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Staying at Dalabadet like a boss..lol

Enjoyed "the traffic light" I guess?
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Nice Ś in Świnoujście
Yes, there is an ś and an ü on this sign. No ø is signposted in Sweden though.



The next day in Trelleborg harbour


Error message in the display of my car. Not something you want to see in the harbour when you're about to board the ferry.
The message disapeard after a while.


Stena line breakfast


Cargo-ship on the Baltic Sea


The B96 at Sassnitz-Mukran The bus has a trailer for bicycles.


The B96 and the railway Sassnitz-Stralsund to the left.
This road is quite bumpy and only fixed temporarilly with a patchwork of asphalt.

B96 at Samtens. This is the main road on the island of Rugen.




The Stralsund-bridge


From up there you can see the city of Stralsund


The A20 Motorway-Not all german motorways are congested. The A20
was in excellent condition, much better than the B96.


Not much traffic here, although it was a friday.


Rostock 47km
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Roadtrip 2015-final part.

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Staying at Dalabadet like a boss..lol

Enjoyed "the traffic light" I guess?
I have been to Trelleborg twice, but there was no time to see the city which is sad. I only drove directly to the camping and then the next morning to the ferry. Same thing with Helsingborg, never saw anything there but the harbour.


The A20-exit Bad Sulze


Restarea at the A20. There is a "dry" toilet here.


Sign at a rest area along the A20. Last year I went the other way to Stettin, but here I'm bound for Rostock.


If I drove this fast in my country, and the police stopped me for speeding I would lose my license for more than a year, and then I would have to do the driving test again.

170km/h felt like a little bit too fast for me and my 10 year old Volvo.
Germany is the only country in the world with motorways without speedlimit.
I mostly drove at 150km/h on the motorway, that felt comfortable and safe, more than 170-180 km/h felt risky and not very relaxing, nevertheless, I was overtaken by cars driving at a significantly higher speed, perhaps more than 200km / h. They drove no Porsches or Ferraris but the usual Audi's and MB's


Two motorways the A20 & A19 meet at Rostock.

Here is the exit if you want to go to Berlin on the A19


The sign says that the A19 motorway to Warnemunde has a toll (maut). It is a tunnel under the Warnow river.

I drove off the motorway at "Rostock Sudstadt"



Traffic in the outskirts of Rostock.


We're almost there. They have trams in Rostock.


Central Rostock close to the Steintor. Quite easy to drive here, wide streets and no traffic jams even if it was on a friday. Pretty much like driving in Norrköping.

Downtown Rostock. We parked here. Parking was not that easy to find on a friday noon.


Beautiful Rostock, pedestrian area


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The movie

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