Projects & Discussions | Transport and Infrastructure

[Bullswool]

Possibly its a good long term project. But I can think of a lot more things that could use $500m now. $500m extra spent on public transport would service more than 3kms

[jonwil]

I remember back when Labor built Roe 7 and axed Roe 8 and the FEB, the Liberals at the time said "if we are elected into government, we will re-instate Roe 8 and the FEB"

When did the Liberals change their policy on this and was there anything released by the liberals to say why their policy was changed? Or was it just a case of an opposition saying they would do xyz but when in government they conveniently forget their promises?

Also does anyone know if there is a map showing where Roe 8 and the FEB (as they were designated in the plan prior to Labor axing them) would have run?

[tayls84]

Originally Posted by Bullswool

Which means its $500m to solve no traffic problems. Waste of money.

This project is more about linking important industrial areas than purely catering for commuter traffic. This is much the same with the Gateway Project around the airport (althought that project has advantages for both the everyday commuters and freight).

I think Roe 8 should be viewed as an investment in logistics efficiency. Moving freight as opposed to people are two seperate issues and projects like this should not be compared to public transport.

[Scrawny]

Well said.

[RallyOz19]

I've always thought that Roe 7 was only really useful if you also built Roe 8.

[Skyline Art]

Originally Posted by Bullswool

Terminal WA coming along fast

http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-31.94425...k&nmd=20120406

Wow that's good but....

Uh, I know near map has been doing major upgrades to its site so that it can make money from councils and other businesses that are using it's aerial photography, but now where did the community or personal license go... I can't open that link unless i pay $10 and get only standard view

i'd get the license but i need to view multiple states, and that $10 is only going to get me one state or territory... For $1,485 per month i can get only 2 states or territories lol...

end of rant/

[samboy]

Just go directly to this page so you won't be redirected.
https://www.nearmap.com/welcome-new

If you access it once (for me anyway) it seems to sort itself out subsequent times.

[jarkti]

Ive had an account with them for awhile
So I just go to sign in and that's fine for me

[aaronaugi1]

Originally Posted by jonwil

I remember back when Labor built Roe 7 and axed Roe 8 and the FEB, the Liberals at the time said "if we are elected into government, we will re-instate Roe 8 and the FEB"

When did the Liberals change their policy on this and was there anything released by the liberals to say why their policy was changed? Or was it just a case of an opposition saying they would do xyz but when in government they conveniently forget their promises?

Also does anyone know if there is a map showing where Roe 8 and the FEB (as they were designated in the plan prior to Labor axing them) would have run?

The reservation has always been in place (even under 7 years of Labor from 2001-2008). It's not that particular governments have put a complete stop to the project for good (by removing the reservation), but have merely just refused to commit funding to it.

Roe 8 is a touchy issue in marginal state electorates like Southern River and Jandakot so I wouldn't expect any movement on it in the near future.

[Skyline Art]

Originally Posted by samboy

Just go directly to this page so you won't be redirected.
https://www.nearmap.com/welcome-new

If you access it once (for me anyway) it seems to sort itself out subsequent times.

yeah thanks, that link does the trick, i can log in there or just use it as free...

that site must still only like allow past sign ups but not allow anyone else.

also, i thought Roe 8 had to happen due to getting the heavy traffic off leach hwy...

last news article i could find:

http://www.oneperth.com.au/2011/02/2...overleaf-city/

also this is an interesting read:
http://www.southmetroconnect.com.au/...1109.pdf?id=40

lol.. who knows.

[fastrak44]

Originally Posted by Scrawny

Well said.

I said the same thing in 5498 and 5500

[Scrawny]

Hah, must of missed it. Well said too. :-)

[Outrune]

At Karrinyup/Mitchell, Alexander/Reid and Albany/Leach, the new LED traffic lights are all crooked and hanging downwards at like 45 degree angles...has anyone else noticed this? it's completely bizarre.

[PerthCity]

Same at Cedric/Mitchell, and they've still got those glare block straps or whatever they are over the lights.

[ultraBLUE]

I don't get the point of putting the louvres on the LED traffic lights. They don't seem to achieve what they do on incandescent traffic lights.

[B787-938]

The traffic lights are installed like that when they are in close proximity to another set and there is a chance of someone looking past a red light at one set and see the green at the next. because of the brightness of the leds they are probably more susceptible to that happening.

[Bullswool]

They make the LED's look retarded though

[B787-938]

Thats true. Multiple point sources like the LED's dont work well with the louvres but I dont think they have any other option aside from maybe making the shield over each light longer.

[Outrune]

Originally Posted by B787-938

The traffic lights are installed like that when they are in close proximity to another set and there is a chance of someone looking past a red light at one set and see the green at the next. because of the brightness of the leds they are probably more susceptible to that happening.

This sort of makes sense as all these crooked lights are exclusively at major diamond interchanges. it makes no difference though - you can still see both sets of greens pretty clearly on the approach, it's just that one of them looks more retarded/hazed/messy than the other (exacerbated by those weird louvre/grill things as mentioned).

[Bullswool]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-...bd-congestion/

Congestion plan for Perth CBD.

Green CAT will run from Leederville to Esplanade via City West every 10mins.