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Old November 14th, 2015, 06:09 PM   #641
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A diesel tram??? Which city would use a such a thing? The Haizhu line uses battery trams anyway.
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Old November 14th, 2015, 08:27 PM   #642
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A diesel tram??? Which city would use a such a thing? The Haizhu line uses battery trams anyway.
Brazil has a lot of them
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Old November 15th, 2015, 05:57 AM   #643
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i am interested in any possible new metro openings in 2015?
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Old November 15th, 2015, 01:26 PM   #644
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A diesel tram??? Which city would use a such a thing? The Haizhu line uses battery trams anyway.
I see, but why they are using such an unconventional system? Ordinary electric tram is much cheaper, and parts are also widely available. Battery tram is costly, and maintenance is also costly.

I suggest, if they construct any other tram route in future, they should construct as simple ordinary electric tram, i.e, current collection from overhead wire.
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Old November 15th, 2015, 06:24 PM   #645
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I see, but why they are using such an unconventional system? Ordinary electric tram is much cheaper, and parts are also widely available. Battery tram is costly, and maintenance is also costly.

I suggest, if they construct any other tram route in future, they should construct as simple ordinary electric tram, i.e, current collection from overhead wire.
Construction cost is lower and construction time is shorter for a battery tram.
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Old November 16th, 2015, 05:33 AM   #646
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I see, but why they are using such an unconventional system? Ordinary electric tram is much cheaper, and parts are also widely available. Battery tram is costly, and maintenance is also costly.

I suggest, if they construct any other tram route in future, they should construct as simple ordinary electric tram, i.e, current collection from overhead wire.
China has a lot of rare earth stuff . It's actually a super capacitor tram system.

Overhead wire systems are costly to maintain ( and are not environmentally friendly to build/make) . China and other countries are working on wireless power transmission.


Sun said his system could "beam" more than 13,000 horsepower, or 9.7MW, to a train using resonant magnetic induction, enough to easily propel a fully loaded subway train or a high-speed train at 350km/h or more.

"But without government support we cannot develop a full-size prototype to overcome all the technical challenges of high-power wireless transmission."

China to date has bought most of its high-speed rail technology from Japan, Germany, France and Italy, but the wireless 10MW technology is new and has never been attempted by other countries.

"The solutions cannot be bought overseas," Sun said. "We must work hard to come up with our own technology."


- scmp.com ( UPDATED : Thursday, 16 April, 2015, 12:10pm)

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Old November 16th, 2015, 09:50 AM   #647
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I see, but why they are using such an unconventional system? Ordinary electric tram is much cheaper, and parts are also widely available. Battery tram is costly, and maintenance is also costly.

I suggest, if they construct any other tram route in future, they should construct as simple ordinary electric tram, i.e, current collection from overhead wire.
It's a super capacitor tram, it charges during stops and only takes like 10 seconds to charge the capacitors, each charge can last more than a couple of miles. It's a system much cheaper to build and nearly maintenance free.
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Old December 29th, 2015, 06:55 AM   #648
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Pictures of Guangfo Line eastern extension 1st section (7.33 km and 4 stations)
Opened on 28 December 2015

Hedong Station


Shachong Station


Shayuan Station


Yangang Station




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Old December 29th, 2015, 10:25 AM   #649
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Old December 29th, 2015, 01:02 PM   #650
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total length?
267.5 km, without Guangfo Metro and people mover - 243.2 km
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Old December 29th, 2015, 01:08 PM   #651
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Missed already - Party Pier tram stop, the only one stop that was unopened in 2014, was opened on 21st October:
http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2015-10-22...i6859282.shtml

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https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%90...86%8D%E7%AB%99

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Old December 30th, 2015, 12:15 AM   #652
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new stations on Guangfo line

Hedong station



source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...g_STA_2015.jpg

Shachong station



source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...g_STA_2015.jpg

Yangang station



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Old December 30th, 2015, 05:45 PM   #653
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Chinese Wikipedia suggests that Qingsheng subway station (line 4) will open 2015.12.31.

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BA...C%B0%E9%93%81)

I haven't been able to find any confirmation.
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Old December 31st, 2015, 07:32 AM   #654
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Chinese Wikipedia suggests that Qingsheng subway station (line 4) will open 2015.12.31.

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BA...C%B0%E9%93%81)

I haven't been able to find any confirmation.
At least this news tell something:
http://cs.gzmtr.com/ckfw/wxts/index.html?param._pk=684

We DO expect Qingsheng station opening soon
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Old December 31st, 2015, 09:41 AM   #655
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267.5 km, without Guangfo Metro and people mover - 243.2 km
I can understand the APM not being included but why isn't the Guangfo line included? Or at least the portion of the Guangfo line in Guangzhou?
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Old December 31st, 2015, 12:24 PM   #656
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I can understand the APM not being included but why isn't the Guangfo line included? Or at least the portion of the Guangfo line in Guangzhou?
I believe this is suburban line or part of other metro network. When I previously mentioned total length of Beijing Metro, some replied to call down Airport express. So I did the same - excluded other lines
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I found this news - it's preview of following changes. Still no official confirmation of Qingsheng station opening or pictures from station:
http://gz.house.sina.com.cn/news/201...01777128.shtml

Neverthelles, Qingsheng will become new hub, because HSR station is nearby. It's on Guangzhou-Shenzhen HSR line
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What other opening or extensions can we expect to see in 2016?
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What other opening or extensions can we expect to see in 2016?
We expect line 4 southern extension, Line 6 eastern extension, Guangfo Line extension and new Line 7

Qingsheng station update - station was NOT opened on 31st December, so the opening date will be announced someday
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Old January 2nd, 2016, 11:51 AM   #660
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I've read that in the future the eastern extension of line 6 will break away from that epic fail to form line 23, which would be extended in both directions and run longer trains.
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