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View Poll Results: are race courses stadiums???
Yes 29 42.65%
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Old June 26th, 2009, 05:35 AM   #1
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Race courses, stadiums or not?

Dou you think race courses qualify as stadiums??
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Old June 26th, 2009, 05:39 AM   #2
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I'll go with yes. Spectators, whether you think the race is a sport or not.
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Old June 26th, 2009, 07:52 AM   #3
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Yes, but the sport is not team based.
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Old June 26th, 2009, 08:22 AM   #4
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A stadium to me should have stands on all sides, or at least around most of the pitch/field area.
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Old June 26th, 2009, 08:25 AM   #5
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They're stadiums, yeah.
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Old June 26th, 2009, 08:34 AM   #6
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Old June 26th, 2009, 12:53 PM   #7
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IMO no.
Just some nascar pist are real stadiums, but the majority is not surrounded by stands
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Old June 26th, 2009, 01:02 PM   #8
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I think it's a fairly difficult call.
The example en1044 posted would qualify as a stadium in my view.
But many other race courses wouldn't.



The famous Nürburgring for example is simply not like a stadium at all. The tradtional Nordschleife is a huge racetrack in the forest with a few stands and grass hills spectators sit on.


It does also have large stands in the part of the much shorter GP course, but the rest of the 20.832 kilometers of the traditional racecourse mostly just look like a pretty lonely road in the forest.
In Le Mans it's very simmilar.
And the racetrack in Monte Carlo simply just consists of the city streets used every day. So all those types of racecourses surely wouldn't qualify as stadia, I believe.

I tend to pretty much go along with Wezzas way of defining it.
Wikipedia has this to say:
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A modern stadium (plural stadiums or stadia[2]) is a place, or venue, for (mostly) outdoor sports, concerts or other events, consisting of a field or stage partly or completely surrounded by a structure designed to allow spectators to stand or sit and view the event.
Doesn't really say anything about racetracks... But it doesn't exactly seem all too helpfull in terms of definition either.

The problem with Wezzas attempt is, that some stadia just have a single stand on one side of the pitch, some stadia only have two opposite stands. And that's also pretty far from reaching around most of the pitch, field or area.
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Old June 26th, 2009, 06:28 PM   #9
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Yes, but the sport is not team based.
That's a bizarre argument.
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Old June 26th, 2009, 06:30 PM   #10
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yes

To me, that's a racing circuit or race track - this is a racecourse:

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Old June 26th, 2009, 11:58 PM   #11
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bristol motor spedway - yes every other racecource - NO so i voted no
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Old June 27th, 2009, 01:16 AM   #12
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Yes, but the sport is not team based.
Neither is singles tennis.
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Old June 27th, 2009, 05:39 AM   #13
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What CharlieP said - racecourses are for horse racing.

Flemington Racecourse has a capacity of 120,000 with a record of almost 130,000 in 2006 which only makes it the country's biggest venue.

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Old June 27th, 2009, 10:17 AM   #14
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some are no different than an athletic stadium with a track, people running in an oval vs a car going in an oval, same basic idea as they are stands facing the oval with concorses, bathrooms, consesion stands, press boxes, luxury boxes, ect. I'm not a nascar fan but how are these not stadiums?

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Old June 27th, 2009, 10:57 AM   #15
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they are stands....
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Old June 27th, 2009, 02:07 PM   #16
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Definition from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium

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A modern stadium (plural stadiums or stadia[2]) is a place, or venue, for (mostly) outdoor sports, concerts or other events, consisting of a field or stage partly or completely surrounded by a structure designed to allow spectators to stand or sit and view the event.
Therefore in my view, race places are outside of stadium meaning.
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Old June 28th, 2009, 01:16 AM   #17
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Definition from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium



Therefore in my view, race places are outside of stadium meaning.
If you going to quote wiki then how is it outside of that deffinition. Wiki lists racetracks on the stadiums by capatity page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._Racing_Venues

also worldstadiums.com lists racetracks
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Old June 28th, 2009, 05:47 AM   #18
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Charlotte's race track is 80% surrounded, it has a field, does it count?
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Old June 28th, 2009, 06:25 AM   #19
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It's curious how the oval racing culture impregnated in the US. I enjoy oval racing, I like NASCAR, IndyCar, but it's curious why they always loved that kind of racing. I guess Horse racing must have been extremely popular in the past there.

Anyway, I voted no, with the exception of Bristol Motorspeedway - a case that generates lots of discussion among architects, Bristol is a Stadium IMO.
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Old June 28th, 2009, 07:52 PM   #20
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Quote:
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If you going to quote wiki then how is it outside of that deffinition. Wiki lists racetracks on the stadiums by capatity page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._Racing_Venues

also worldstadiums.com lists racetracks
Its splitted on this page between current stadiums and Motor Racing Venues. Also the defintion speaks from partly or completely surrounded by a structure designed

and usually motor racing venues are in my opinion not structure designed. And worldstadiums.com is for me not a reference page, they can list up everything their, if they want...
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