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Old July 27th, 2009, 08:43 AM   #41
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Isfahan: I'd vote it a conservative 125/10. It is so perfectly beautiful it takes my breath away every time.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 07:27 PM   #42
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Amazing buildings truely shocked.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 08:06 PM   #43
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Islamic Center of Washington in Washington, D.C.

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Old July 30th, 2009, 03:50 AM   #44
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Wazir khan Mosque


Jama Mosque, India


Great Mosque of Sanaa
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Old August 2nd, 2009, 04:20 AM   #45
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Mamluk Architechture

Emir Qurqumas complex.



Hassan Mosque
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Old August 4th, 2009, 07:03 PM   #46
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Great updates.
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Old August 6th, 2009, 08:31 PM   #47
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Mosquees of Algeria

Mosquee in Bechar


Mosquee ( Algiers )
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Mosquee of Kasbah (Algiers)
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Mosquee of Setif :


Mosquee ( Constantine ) :


"Le mosquée du bey" (Annaba/Bône ) :


Mosquee of Tizi-Ouzou :
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Old August 6th, 2009, 09:10 PM   #48
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What does "Classical" mean in this context? Since I see mosques with a variety of different architecture. Great pics btw.
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Old August 7th, 2009, 06:55 AM   #49
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What does "Classical" mean in this context? Since I see mosques with a variety of different architecture. Great pics btw.
it means that its classical. it involves architecture from various cultures but its still has a mix of arabic and persian architecture!
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Old August 7th, 2009, 08:09 AM   #50
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This thread isn't exactly about Islamic architecture, but more a mere random collection of mosques found in Google images, except a couple of other buildings. Very misleading. And a lot of architecture in here isn't Islamic at all by any stretch. Calling Hagia Sophia Islamic architecture is laughable just due to the fact that it was converted to a mosque. This thread makes no sense.
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Old August 7th, 2009, 08:12 AM   #51
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Forms of Turkish architecture on Islamic monuments in history

Timurid Architecture



Seljuk architecture




Mamluke architecture





Ottoman architecture





Also monuments like Taj Mahal has Turkish work and influence too especially many domed buildings carry Turkish touch together with Persian.
Now this is a better post. But would you call Hagia Sophia inspired buildings Islamic architecture? Isn't it more Byzantine? Unless someone can point out exactly what was the Islamic addition to it. I'm guessing either calligraphy or some sort of tiles inside.
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Old August 7th, 2009, 08:22 AM   #52
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"Classical" in this context means they are excellent examples of the style. Even though there is huge variation in form, features and details, each is of excellent quality.
Origin of the word is from the Hellenic period of Ancient Greek art, ie, the Classical period, which is considered the peak period of achievement. The word has had its meaning extended to mean "outstanding", "excellent" and "the best".

The word is widely used: a classic movie, a classic wine, a classic car, a classic beauty, etc., but can be abused by too easy application by gushing enthusiasts.

If I had to choose 3 only examples as the most 'classical' of Islamic architecture they would be the Maidan at Isfahan, the Ottoman mosques by Sinan and the Mughal style(or your preferred spelling) Taj Mahal. They are not the same but may share some features however each is the peak of achievement and have a beauty that is generally acknowledged but they also never fail to take your breath away no matter how many times you see them.

Postscript: and then someone goes and shows me examples such as those Timurid and Seljuk beauties: they are clearly 'classical' 'classics' of their style, and of the Islamic style in general.
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Old August 7th, 2009, 08:37 AM   #53
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True: the Hagia Sophia was built as a Christian church and converted to a mosque by the Ottomans, but since 1927(?) has been more of a museum/heritage building. Given its influence on Ottoman architecture it is legitimately included in any discussion of Islamic architecture, specifically, Ottoman architecture, so while it is inaccurate to label it 'Islamic' - it is Byzantine - it is not "laughable".
Islam was most adept at adapting local styles of architecture to its own purposes in countries it conquered which accounts for the huge variation in styles known collectively as "Islamic".
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Old August 9th, 2009, 02:29 AM   #54
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also it is easy to realize and point out that most of the Algerian mosques posted here were previous churches and cathedrals...regardless the architecture is amazing and truly divine
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Old August 9th, 2009, 04:34 AM   #55
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This thread isn't exactly about Islamic architecture, but more a mere random collection of mosques found in Google images, except a couple of other buildings. Very misleading. And a lot of architecture in here isn't Islamic at all by any stretch. Calling Hagia Sophia Islamic architecture is laughable just due to the fact that it was converted to a mosque. This thread makes no sense.
Dude! Hagia sophia is no more! Its blue mosque! and it is islamic architecture because it has been extremely renovated ever since the ottomans came! the only thing that is still byzantine about the blue mosque is the dome! or maybe not even that!
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Dude! The Hagia Sophia lives!! It is a separate building from the nearby so-called 'Blue Mosque'. The Blue Mosque is properly called the Mosque of Sultan Ahmet (Sultanahmet Camii), designed by the architect Sedefhar Mehmet Aga and completed in 1616.
No serious structural changes were made to the Hagia Sophia by the Ottomans apart from adding 4 minarets and covering the Christian mosaics.
The Ottomans so much admired the building that they used it as the basis for the design of their own places of worship.
NB: there are about 10 mosques called 'blue mosque' throughout the Islamic world.
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Old August 9th, 2009, 08:03 AM   #57
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My bad! but my point was that hagia sophia is changed! not the same any more! not fully byzantine architecture anymore!
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Old August 9th, 2009, 08:22 AM   #58
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The minarets were added, Im pretty sure it didn't have those before. But the Turks really did beautifully decide on "thin" minarets instead of fatter one's.

The Thin minarets are personally one of my favourties. The Ottoman arches are lovely too especially the one's in the Grand Mosque of Makkah.
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Old August 9th, 2009, 10:19 AM   #59
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Dude! Hagia sophia is no more! Its blue mosque! and it is islamic architecture because it has been extremely renovated ever since the ottomans came! the only thing that is still byzantine about the blue mosque is the dome! or maybe not even that!
What the hell are you talking about? You don't even know that the Blue Mosque and Hagia Sophia aer TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. Goddammit, that's a new low. The Hagia Sohpia dones't exist. You gave me a laugh. Jesus Christ.
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Old August 9th, 2009, 11:39 AM   #60
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The Hagia Sophia remains the great architectural achievement of the Byzantine era. The brilliance of the concept of adapting a square arch to support a round dome is extraordinary. The stunning interior space remains breathtaking. Knowing a good building when they saw one, the Ottomans only added the minarets and they do not alter the structural integrity of the main building. Any alteration to the interior is largely superficial and not entirely irreversible.
They could use it as a casino, a flophouse or a bowling alley but it would still be one of the great architectural leaps in history and it will forever remain Byzantine.

As I pointed out in post 56 the Hagia Sophia and the Blue Mosque/Sultanahmet Camii are TWO SEPARATE and DISTINCT buildings, similar in appearance b/c one copied the form of the other and even located quite near each other, but they are NOT the same.

REPEAT: the Hagia Sophia is LARGELY THE SAME BUILDING as it ever was except that the dome fell in an earthquake some years after it was built so it was rebuilt with slightly more convex form to strengthen it structurally and so it has remained for the past 1500 or so years.

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