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Old July 29th, 2009, 07:36 AM   #301
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I don't want Sydney to be 10m+ city. It's over-crowded as it is and the future sprawl will be devastating for our quality of life. I want regional cities to grow at the maximum of 1million. Regional cities such as Woolongong, Newcastle, Bathurst, Albury, Port Macquarie, etc.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 07:57 AM   #302
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By changing one word to its opposite suddenly makes it "offensive"... but sure, go right ahead and be prejudiced towards white Australians.
Are you making the assumption that 'real' Australians are white?
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Old July 29th, 2009, 07:59 AM   #303
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I'm under the impression that QLD external immigrants are more highly skewed to anglo than VIC and NSW. Ie more NZers, UKers...?
People generally go where there is already a huge community. Toowoomba is a good example of this. A short time ago its Sudanese community was the largest outside the main Capitals. I also read more than 70% of Australia's Hmong (Laos) communty resided in Brisbane's outer southern suburbs - most relocating from Hobart where they arrived in the 1970's. And up until recently more than half the Taiwanese population of Australia also resided in Brisbane's south around Sunnybank. Perth is another good example – its UK and South African central.

Its interesting to look at the smaller communities and where they go - Hmong is a classic example of a small community wanting to be together.

It would be interesting to find out why international immigrants who arrive in Sydney and Melbourne find it necessary to move to Queensland? Could be the climate is more like home?
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Old July 29th, 2009, 08:43 AM   #304
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Obviously you don't get what I stated, otherwise you'd know that I am actually not racist at all.
im truly interested in what your point was?

when you say 'real australians', what exactly do you mean?

and why are 'real australians' bad?
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Old July 29th, 2009, 08:55 AM   #305
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It quite clear that by 'real Australians' he means bogans, and he was implying bogans flock to Queensland because its the uncultured state.

Shock! Horror!

Are you going to let him get away with that, Queenslanders?
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Old July 29th, 2009, 08:59 AM   #306
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Old July 29th, 2009, 09:03 AM   #307
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great that you're reaching 22 by year's end.

i always thought Australia was super under populated (which happens to be truth anyways) but then i read some comments about the lack of water and the state of emergency that you all guys go through sometimes, like severe water restrictions and the urgence to build desalinization plants

but, i'd like to ask you all, what would be the perfect pop. size for your cities?

would you like to have a Melbourne with 10 mill. or a Sydney with 12 mill.? perhaps a Western Australia state with more cities? maybe a declining figure in your cities current population?

personally, i would love to see a bigger Australia with more cities. but i don't know what's the situation down there and if really water is a restricting issue for population growth

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Thats quite an interesting question.

Would be great to have Sydney really built like a NYC or Tokyo with 10 mil plus and be the powerhouse of entertainment, finance and business of Australia in its own right.

Melbourne probably not much bigger than it is and stay the events and culture capital of Australia. Be the cool smaller brother to Sydney.

I'd love to see WAs population really take off. Perth to rival Melbourne in terms of size and be the resources capital of Australia.

A million size city in the south west to act as a commerce and tourist central hub for all coastal towns and wineries.

A gold coast size and style city just north of Perth as a tourist and entertainment destination in its own right.

A large sustainable city, the size of 2 mill in the north west to act as a major hub of accomodation and entertainment for mining workers.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 09:09 AM   #308
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People generally go where there is already a huge community. Toowoomba is a good example of this. A short time ago its Sudanese community was the largest outside the main Capitals. I also read more than 70% of Australia's Hmong (Laos) communty resided in Brisbane's outer southern suburbs - most relocating from Hobart where they arrived in the 1970's. And up until recently more than half the Taiwanese population of Australia also resided in Brisbane's south around Sunnybank. Perth is another good example – its UK and South African central.
Why are you trying to fool people that Brisbane is Asia Central or some dynamic, diverse city, when it in fact has the lowest rate of foreign born people of any mainland capital?

Brisbane has 87,853 migrants from Asia. Perth has 101,372. Brisbane has 40,256 migrants from SE Asia. Perth has 63,339.

Brisbane has 20,735 migrants from Sub-Saharan Africa. Perth has 35,485 migrants. Brisbane has 2,985 migrants from North Africa. Perth has 3,726.

You are just full of crap.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 09:24 AM   #309
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Old July 29th, 2009, 09:25 AM   #310
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im truly interested in what your point was?

when you say 'real australians', what exactly do you mean?

and why are 'real australians' bad?
I didn't say they were bad.
For me personally I have always found Sydney and Melbourne to be far more diverse in it's ethic cultures and communities and I feel more comfortable living amongst that as opposed to red neck country laced with some south east asians which is predominantly what makes up SEQ's external migration.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 09:48 AM   #311
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Old July 29th, 2009, 10:09 AM   #312
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It quite clear that by 'real Australians' he means bogans, and he was implying bogans flock to Queensland because its the uncultured state.

Shock! Horror!

Are you going to let him get away with that, Queenslanders?
settle down sweetheart, i didnt realise i directed the question at you

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I didn't say they were bad.
For me personally I have always found Sydney and Melbourne to be far more diverse in it's ethic cultures and communities and I feel more comfortable living amongst that as opposed to red neck country laced with some south east asians which is predominantly what makes up SEQ's external migration.
well speaking from a 'external migrataion' persons(2nd gen) perspective, SEQ is fine by my standards. To be quite honest, i find that its a various ethnic groups which are more prone to been racist, the amount of asian, african and polynesian gangs which get around these days is quite incredible. For the record i consider myself a 'real australian', i dont see why i should be prevented from the title. Anyway, im digressing.

This isnt whether Sydney and Melbourne have a larger proportion of overseas born persons, im just wandering about the assumptions of the types of persons who are emigrating between states.

Is there actually statistical data on the makeup of those moving between the states, or are we just blindly assuming that they are 100% aussie born?
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Old July 29th, 2009, 10:28 AM   #313
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settle down sweetheart, i didnt realise i directed the question at you
It was clear that you were just dying to know, so I thought I'd help. Your snide remark isn't really much of a thanks, though.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 10:39 AM   #314
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settle down sweetheart, i didnt realise i directed the question at you


well speaking from a 'external migrataion' persons(2nd gen) perspective, SEQ is fine by my standards. To be quite honest, i find that its a various ethnic groups which are more prone to been racist, the amount of asian, african and polynesian gangs which get around these days is quite incredible. For the record i consider myself a 'real australian', i dont see why i should be prevented from the title. Anyway, im digressing.

This isnt whether Sydney and Melbourne have a larger proportion of overseas born persons, im just wandering about the assumptions of the types of persons who are emigrating between states.

Is there actually statistical data on the makeup of those moving between the states, or are we just blindly assuming that they are 100% aussie born?
I'm 100% aussie born to and italian mother and french father....I'm australian.
My remark about 'real australians' was bit of a joke and was more about the mentality of those kind of people and not whether they are actually aussie or not.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 10:50 AM   #315
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It was clear that you were just dying to know, so I thought I'd help. Your snide remark isn't really much of a thanks, though.
whos been snide?
Isnt sweetheart fitting?
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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:20 AM   #316
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Obviously you don't get what I stated, otherwise you'd know that I am actually not racist at all.
i do get what you said. You hate white australians of a lower socio-demographic.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:21 AM   #317
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whos been snide?
Isnt sweetheart fitting?
Why you're being snide. The very idea that somebody thinks less of Queensland simply grinds your gears. Hence your feigning ignorance to Mickeebee (or maybe you were just slow).
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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:23 AM   #318
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i do get what you said. You hate white australians of a lower socio-demographic.
Thank you.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:34 AM   #319
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Why you're being snide. The very idea that somebody thinks less of Queensland simply grinds your gears. Hence your feigning ignorance to Mickeebee (or maybe you were just slow).

DW its a trend in all, sorry MOST OF SOME Qld forumers

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Thank you.
To hate people based on their demographic is just as bad as racism imo.
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