Population Statistics Thread - Page 2

Cell.Phone · June 28th, 2009, 12:45 PM

CC is about 300 000. I think it is couted as its own separate entity but it can be considered apart of Sydney as it is so reliant for employment.

BSD · June 28th, 2009, 12:47 PM

Well just take out Orange to make the list top 42. Stupid reliability.

ross_the_man · June 28th, 2009, 12:48 PM

I thought Gosford was considered its own urban area and considered its own city with the rest of the Central Coast just being small towns? Could be completely wrong though.

crazyknightsfan · June 28th, 2009, 12:57 PM

^ ABS counts the Central Coast as part of the Sydney Statistical Division. Almost everyone else considers it as a separate area.

It's comprised of two LGAs - Gosford and Wyong. It's most certainly not part of Newy either

Cell.Phone · June 28th, 2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BSD

Well just take out Orange to make the list top 42. Stupid reliability.

wut

Urbania · June 28th, 2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NICKKK1995

This year Melbournes population stands at just over 3,910,000.
And Melbournes population increases 54,000 people each year, so in another 2 years.
MELBOURNE WILL HAVE PASSED THE 4 MILLION MARK WOOO
GO MELBOURNE

I think you'll find it will get there quicker than that. Last 2 years Melbourne's population has grown by about 75,000 people per year.

Urbania · June 28th, 2009, 01:08 PM

I've talied up the list of 43 cities over 30,000 into States/Territories. Where the city area is over 2 states/territories (ie. Canberra-Queanbeyan) I've given 1 tally for each state/territory:

NSW 17
QLD 11
VIC 9
WA 5
TAS 3
SA 1
ACT 1
NT 1

Interesting what effect a more de-centralised population makes.

***crawf*** · June 28th, 2009, 06:51 PM

[QUOTE=finn;38918294]

Mackay is number 21 at 81,148
Rockhampton is number 25 at 75,497

Continuing the list crawf posted at the beginning of this thread to the full 43:

31. Mildura, VIC (Pop: 49,280)
/QUOTE]

This figure is for the whole council area which spans out 100kms, Mildura is only around 30,000.

jarden · June 28th, 2009, 06:52 PM

Those population counts are not for cities they are for what ABS call Statistical Divisions or SD for short which combine areas around cities like in the term Metropolitan Population. Like for Newcastle SD 531 000 includes Maitland, Cessnock, Lake Macquarie etc. Newcastle city LGA is 147 000. While for some places its the other way round e.g. Cairns the SD population 142 000 is lower than the City LGA population 152 000. Same as Townsville SD is 162 000 and the LGA is 175 000.

Choko · June 28th, 2009, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BSD

One thing i find it so funny, huge difference between LGA and Statistical division/urban centre. In wiki, Orange have same population (under statistical division 2008) to ABS have it LGA! So what this means for Orange? No one lives in rural out there?

Orange's LGA is basically limited to it's urban area. Drive a few kays in each direction from Orange's town centre and you will find most of that area is covered by the surrounding Cabonne LGA (which is predominently rural in nature - Canowindra and Molong are the two main towns of Cabonne LGA).

BSD · June 29th, 2009, 04:19 AM

Yea exactly, Orange, Dubbo and Bathurst are not deserved placed higher than 35th.

Lismore SD is very accurate compared to LGA of 45,000+. Wonder why Ballina isnt included for the SD? The shire is well over 43,000 and pretty sure the SD around 28,000.

Jesse24 · June 29th, 2009, 04:24 AM

I though the Sunshine Coast was a lot bigger than that, don't know where I got 350,000 from.

Choko · June 29th, 2009, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BSD

Yea exactly, Orange, Dubbo and Bathurst are not deserved placed higher than 35th.

Lismore SD is very accurate compared to LGA of 45,000+. Wonder why Ballina isnt included for the SD? The shire is well over 43,000 and pretty sure the SD around 28,000.

Yet many LGAs have a number of towns and villages (eg. a few of QLD's recently amalgamated LGAs such as Fraser Coast). Basically SD pop'n and LGA pop'n isn't really comparable.

Just like the Perth/Mandurah and Brisbane/Gold Coast debates, there may be a time down the track when the ABS considers Ballina and Lennox Head to be one continuous urban belt... don't hold your breath though.

BSD · June 29th, 2009, 05:43 AM

You mean regional council?

In some cases we usually call Ballina-Byron Gateway. Ballina and Lennox are completely different to other cities. But same case of urban joining up. Theres less than 1km gap between Angels Beach North and southern part of Skennars Head!

jarden · June 29th, 2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesse24

I though the Sunshine Coast was a lot bigger than that, don't know where I got 350,000 from.

Actually the Sunshine coast SD is 237 000 the figure from above, while the new and much larger LGA of Sunshine coast is 307 000

crazyknightsfan · June 29th, 2009, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BSD

You mean regional council?

In some cases we usually call Ballina-Byron Gateway. Ballina and Lennox are completely different to other cities. But same case of urban joining up. Theres less than 1km gap between Angels Beach North and southern part of Skennars Head!

Reading your posts makes my head hurt

ross_the_man · June 29th, 2009, 06:59 AM

Ballina is not a city, its a town.

JayT · June 29th, 2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BSD

You mean regional council?

In some cases we usually call Ballina-Byron Gateway. Ballina and Lennox are completely different to other cities.

Most cities aren't so rural as Ballina & Byron - except for perhaps Armidale, Dorrigo, Guyra metro area

BSD · June 29th, 2009, 07:54 AM

Seriously your talking rubbish again. Northern Rivers of course is rural but look closely, Ballina and Byron are both only places in Northern Rivers (except Tweed which is part of Gold Coast) are urban dense areas! Hence its fastest growing region outside Sydney in NSW!

Burden · June 29th, 2009, 07:56 AM

Dont make this thread get closed with your rubbish BSD.

June 28th, 2009, 12:48 PM	#23
ross_the_man Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canberra Posts: 3,709 Likes (Received): 11	I thought Gosford was considered its own urban area and considered its own city with the rest of the Central Coast just being small towns? Could be completely wrong though. __________________ Ain't no such thing as half way crooks!

June 28th, 2009, 06:51 PM	#28
*crawf* © Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Adelaide Posts: 5,127 Likes (Received): 19	[QUOTE=finn;38918294] Mackay is number 21 at 81,148 Rockhampton is number 25 at 75,497 Continuing the list crawf posted at the beginning of this thread to the full 43: 31. Mildura, VIC (Pop: 49,280) /QUOTE] This figure is for the whole council area which spans out 100kms, Mildura is only around 30,000. __________________ The Australia Guide

June 29th, 2009, 06:59 AM	#37
ross_the_man Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canberra Posts: 3,709 Likes (Received): 11	Ballina is not a city, its a town. __________________ Ain't no such thing as half way crooks!

June 29th, 2009, 07:56 AM	#40
Burden What to do with my life.. Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,446	Dont make this thread get closed with your rubbish BSD. __________________ Townsville is unlike any other city in Australia. No city of comparable size has quite the connection into the future prosperity of the Australian nation as does Townsville. Townsville's next phase of growth is likely to accrue the critical mass in population to transform from regional centre to a metropolitan centre. 'Bernard Salt' Australia's leading demographer Townsville is a picture of exactly the kind of diverse, dynamic regional economy that will power Australia's passage through the years ahead. Treasurer Wayne Swan

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June 28th, 2009, 12:45 PM	#21
Cell.Phone Walking Leather Boots Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Crouched Down On A Rooftop Posts: 1,928 Likes (Received): 0	CC is about 300 000. I think it is couted as its own separate entity but it can be considered apart of Sydney as it is so reliant for employment.

June 28th, 2009, 12:47 PM	#22
BSD Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,642 Likes (Received): 224	Well just take out Orange to make the list top 42. Stupid reliability.

June 28th, 2009, 01:08 PM	#27
Urbania Urban Athiest Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Perth Posts: 1,480 Likes (Received): 149	I've talied up the list of 43 cities over 30,000 into States/Territories. Where the city area is over 2 states/territories (ie. Canberra-Queanbeyan) I've given 1 tally for each state/territory: NSW 17 QLD 11 VIC 9 WA 5 TAS 3 SA 1 ACT 1 NT 1 Interesting what effect a more de-centralised population makes.

June 28th, 2009, 06:52 PM	#29
jarden Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cairns and Christchurch Posts: 2,522 Likes (Received): 16	Those population counts are not for cities they are for what ABS call Statistical Divisions or SD for short which combine areas around cities like in the term Metropolitan Population. Like for Newcastle SD 531 000 includes Maitland, Cessnock, Lake Macquarie etc. Newcastle city LGA is 147 000. While for some places its the other way round e.g. Cairns the SD population 142 000 is lower than the City LGA population 152 000. Same as Townsville SD is 162 000 and the LGA is 175 000.

June 29th, 2009, 04:19 AM	#31
BSD Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,642 Likes (Received): 224	Yea exactly, Orange, Dubbo and Bathurst are not deserved placed higher than 35th. Lismore SD is very accurate compared to LGA of 45,000+. Wonder why Ballina isnt included for the SD? The shire is well over 43,000 and pretty sure the SD around 28,000.

June 29th, 2009, 05:43 AM	#34
BSD Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,642 Likes (Received): 224	You mean regional council? In some cases we usually call Ballina-Byron Gateway. Ballina and Lennox are completely different to other cities. But same case of urban joining up. Theres less than 1km gap between Angels Beach North and southern part of Skennars Head!

June 29th, 2009, 07:54 AM	#39
BSD Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,642 Likes (Received): 224	Seriously your talking rubbish again. Northern Rivers of course is rural but look closely, Ballina and Byron are both only places in Northern Rivers (except Tweed which is part of Gold Coast) are urban dense areas! Hence its fastest growing region outside Sydney in NSW!