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Old June 29th, 2009, 07:32 PM   #21
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I was there like 12 years ago. You can imagine how the place felt in fall. The day was gloomy, the wind was blowing... And when I started thinking what had happened there it got really scary. I couldn't help myself thinking of Auschwitz as a haunted place.

This thread is definitely one of the most interesting and -most of all -important threads on this forum. Thanks for posting the pictures.

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Old June 29th, 2009, 07:39 PM   #22
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Thanks for the impressions, Tom!
Very sad part of our history.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 11:32 AM   #23
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Thanks for sharing.
Although I have to disagree with your thread's title :
One of the darkest places in the human history. Its only one among too many of that kind.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 12:50 PM   #24
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I know that jewish people murdered by the nazism aren't involved in contemporary fight in palestine trouble.
I know that to judge someone we must to refer to the historical context and situation.
We can't condemn people in absolute for his past or his present.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 12:57 PM   #25
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Thanks for sharing.
Although I have to disagree with your thread's title :
One of the darkest places in the human history. Its only one among too many of that kind.
True. They are amazing photos though, too much talent.

@pro77 , i agree aswell. Murdered people usually cant do anything anyway !

But yes i get what you are saying , and i was not trying to compare or relate , the pictures gave me the feeling of darkness and depression and palestine popped into my head. Thats all.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 02:51 PM   #26
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Nice photos, but I have to disagree with the title.

The modern-day Nazis sitting in Tel Aviv have created a darker spot in human history.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 04:10 PM   #27
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Would you please shut up?
This thread is about the concentration camp of Auschwitz-Birkenau.
It is not about Palestine or Israel!
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Old June 30th, 2009, 05:34 PM   #28
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Well, communistic concentration camps were worse And took about 70mln people, so I think THAT is the darkest spot. I was in Auschwitz and from what I seen, living conditions there were few times better than in commie camps (that I know from grandmother's diary). At least in Auschwitz there were some food rations.
I'm not trying to defend or clear Nazis, cause it'd mean that I'm not normal But you all have to remember about much bigger evil, that was in the east.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 07:35 PM   #29
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Actually i didn`t planned a discussion thread.

Bad things happened and happening all over the world. But 90% of all people would agree that Auswchitz stands for the worst crimes against humanity.

Please show some respect to the 1.1 million people and stop the discussion..
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Old June 30th, 2009, 07:41 PM   #30
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Yeah, the Nazi holocaust should not be regarded as the worst atrocity in mankind's history. Worse things have happened, and continue to happen today.

It's a shame westerners are so obsessed with that period in history, maybe because they feel a sort of guilt or shame? It's like they only have eyes on the back of their heads.

If they could see the bigger picture maybe there would be more understanding in the world, and I find it amazing that so many descendants of holocaust victims (Israelis) feel they have a right or find it acceptable to treat the Palestinians in that way; imprisoning them and wiping them off the land. Did they learn nothing from history?
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Old June 30th, 2009, 08:28 PM   #31
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But 90% of all people would agree that Auswchitz stands for the worst crimes against humanity.
Did you make some survey?


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Please show some respect to the 1.1 million people and stop the discussion..
So now stop being so ignorant and show respect to ~100 millions victims of communism all over the world.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 09:39 PM   #32
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Why so few shots from inside?
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Old June 30th, 2009, 10:14 PM   #33
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Why so few shots from inside?
Actually it was forbidden. I don`t know why...

Elvenking: Feel free to post such a thread and give me a link. I will vist it. That`s my honest opinion.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 07:33 AM   #34
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Stunning photography - deeply moving place. I plan to visit Poland in August and I'm still deciding whether to go to Auschwitz-Birkenau. As a place that signifies the very worst of humanity I feel I probably should experience it, even if the whole place repulses me. Thks for sharing.

pingyao,

I went there in 1995 and was sick for two years afterwards or maybe just very depressed about what Nazis did to innocent Jews, Poles, gays etc in Nazi-occupied Poland. Went back in 2008 and we decided not ot go again and my friend didn't mind and instead went to see nearby Salt Mines in Wieliczka and Krakow both splendid examples of what is good in human nature. I have Polish relatives (now dead) who survived Auschwitz and Bergen Behlsen and none of them or their children want to see these places - I think in some ways the war isn't quite over for them yet even if though nature seems to be taking over such dark places as Auschwitz.

What's worst about this place for me is the dehumanization of innocent people and yes sadly it continues today. But the world must remain tuned in and be proactive to ensure some troubled areas do not degenerate into complete ethnic cleansing and genocide, because it is very likely. Crimes committed by Stalin and his henchmen were just as evil.

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Old July 1st, 2009, 07:46 AM   #35
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But the world must remain tuned in and be proactive to ensure some troubled areas do not degenerate into complete ethnic cleansing and genocide, because it is very likely.
Ethnic cleansing and genocide is taking place today.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 03:46 AM   #36
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intense pics of a place full of human shame..
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 06:30 PM   #37
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Did you make some survey?




So now stop being so ignorant and show respect to ~100 millions victims of communism all over the world.
Why do you compare two evils?
Do you think being put into a gas chamber is more comfortable than starving in a gulag?
Hitler would have also killed 100 million people if he had the chance to do so.
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