Projects & Discussions | Perth Waterfront | Urban Renewal

[aaronaugi1]

Originally Posted by Youngplanner

Omg it's Gandalf! That guy with the massive white beard who assists Shane sometimes?

Originally Posted by Urbicus

Ah, Perth. Where the Urban Planners are opposed to urban planning.

The guy is certainly from the 'Fremantle' school of planning. There is a place for heritage, low height etc. but it isn't everywhere. Just because something was built for a purpose or is old does not make it historically valuable.

[Indian Ocean]

With 'so much' resistance to foreshore development, how on earth did concert hall carpark end up where it did? Im amazed that during this whole process of developing the foreshore stuff all mention has been made about it, the opportunities of development there or whether we should get rid of it. It needs more waterfront development, would be nice to have concert hall right up next to the river.

[BartBart]

It is sitting above some deep unstable estuarine soil, I believe. As was the carpark that used to be on the PCEC site. Not sure if that was solely the reason why it has been used as a carpark though.

[WCG]

Originally Posted by BartBart

It is sitting above some deep unstable estuarine soil, I believe. As was the carpark that used to be on the PCEC site. Not sure if that was solely the reason why it has been used as a carpark though.

But there has been plans to develop the car parks though hasn't there?

I guess the western suburbners like to drive straight from their front doors in the west down riverside drive and park their cars on the waterfront- oh what a view!

[BartBart]

There is a City of Perth plan for the carpark behind the Concert Hall. I don't think the deep estuarine deposits isn't a game breaker, but it will probably greatly increase building cost - esp for higher rise.

[jackso]

CoP has all but ditched that plan. I think it was more of a Natrass idea. The concept of a performing arts 'precinct' doesn't sit well with me.

That carpark will be there for many years to come I think. If I had my way I would extend Supreme Court Gardens east so it is in line with the boundary of Government House. Then.. well.. I don't know what I would do directly infront of Perth Concert Hall. Wouldn't want to obstruct the sightlines to the river.

[Urbicus]

Sydney-style wharves plz.

[aaronaugi1]

Originally Posted by jackso

The concept of a performing arts 'precinct' doesn't sit well with me.

I think you just have to look at how quite the space around the concert hall is 99% of the time.

Even having the concert hall out in that location by itself makes it pretty desolate. I can't imagine how bad it would be if we took away the parking area (the only 'active' use in the area) and replaced it with more buildings used only a fraction of the time.

The idea that they could build cafes and shops down there and that people would use them is pretty absurd.

[ekul444]

Just ridiculous reporting in the Cambridge POST this week.

• Front page: 2/3 of front page taken up by a photo, headline and story about the Waterfront casting shadows over the War Memorial at Kings Park.
• Negative stories on pages 3 and 9
• 8 negative letters in total, just 1 positive letter (on pg 38)

And that's just on the Waterfront - there was even more negativity then that on Cottesloe .

[crave]

Originally Posted by ekul444

Just ridiculous reporting in the Cambridge POST this week.

• Front page: 2/3 of front page taken up by a photo, headline and story about the Waterfront casting shadows over the War Memorial at Kings Park.
• Negative stories on pages 3 and 9
• 8 negative letters in total, just 1 positive letter (on pg 38)

And that's just on the Waterfront - there was even more negativity then that on Cottesloe .

fact is, most people go to kings park to see tha city view... tha war memorial is probably an after-thought...

[Youngplanner]

Urgh, god I hate local newspapers. They're just a massive breeding ground for conservatism and whinge fests. - I have great pleasure in throwing them straight into the recycling bin.

[Urbicus]

Originally Posted by ekul444

• Front page: 2/3 of front page taken up by a photo, headline and story about the Waterfront casting shadows over the War Memorial at Kings Park.

Wait, what?

[Calvin W]

Originally Posted by Urbicus

Wait, what?

Yes shadows from the 500m tower which will be built along the waterfront

[izza]

Perhaps at 5:30 in the morning

[ryan79]

What the fuck is wrong with people and fucking shade in this city!!! We practically live in the desert, shade is a good thing.

[TRS-80]

Originally Posted by izza

Perhaps at 5:30 in the morning

On ANZAC day. I can kind of almost see their point, but I doubt it would be hard to avoid.

[Urbicus]

Because the rest of the CBD doesn't cast shadows?

Even if the entire area was to be plunged into inky blackness, suggesting development be restricted to protect the amount of sunlight on a certain area at a certain time on a certain day is some Ancient Egyptian level shit.

[hack404]

Won't someone think of the children?

[BartBart]

I am going to protest against Europe because their part of the globe is currently blocking my sunlight.

[hack404]

Their daylight saving is stealing our Anzac Day sunlight.