20FC the POLL: the most controversial project in London - which side are you on? - Page 5

suede685 · September 1st, 2009, 09:38 PM

Thanks for clearing that up ibiza!

darrense14 · September 2nd, 2009, 12:02 AM

[QUOTE=Nightjar;41848396] looks like a fat tramp stumbling into the Thames./QUOTE]

Every time i look at this now all i can see is a fat tramp stumbling forwards.

Nightjar · September 2nd, 2009, 05:22 PM

I didn't mean to suggest that public access would be completely restricted, just that logistically public access would be limited - can anybody imagine London Eye type crowds mingling around on Fenchurch Street trying to get in!?

Incidentally I wonder how access would work: Pre-booked tickets perhaps - Does anyone know?

P.s. If it ever does get built I'd definitely like to go up (but if they found out what I'd been saying I'm sure I'd be barred at the entrance).

darrense14 · September 3rd, 2009, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightjar

Incidentally I wonder how access would work: Pre-booked tickets perhaps - Does anyone know?

If a recent article in the London Paper is correct, access would be free and it seems anyone can go up to the skygarden via a public lift. Full article here:

http://www.thelondonpaper.com/thelon...st-public-park

potto · September 3rd, 2009, 12:31 PM

You might get a surge of people in the beginning, the City is still a bit out of the way for most and the shard will certainly take the glamour. 1 Poultry has a nice public roof space and its never exactly heaving with people, there are plenty of great little spaces in the City that are often desserted. It is quite possible that this could become a niche space.

Nightjar · September 4th, 2009, 11:20 AM

Thanks for that darrense14. Very interesting article.

Not sure what to make of it though as it all sounds a little too good to be (completely) true.

Also, I know what you mean about The City being off the beaten track potto but (if ever built) 20FS and it's Skygarden are surely going to get an immense amount of attention - even if there is only an initial "surge of people" it's gonna be massive - isn't it? No doubt tourist guide books are going to include it, City workers will be nipping up at lunch - and then there's the thousands of rabid SSCers!

How will they cope!? ;0)

jimbo · September 4th, 2009, 07:50 PM

the londonpaper isn't quite the most reliable journalistic rag and Murdoch is about to shut it down anyhoo......

can't fault the sentiment though. It would be a wonderful outdoor space and insanely popular I suspect.

Nightjar · September 9th, 2009, 01:26 PM

Do you think as the London Paper winds down we'll see stories like "122LH to be built - IN KENSINGTON!" ???

P.s. I'll miss The London Paper's absurdly difficult GK crossword.

darrense14 · September 10th, 2009, 11:18 AM

I read a couple of weeks ago in the one of the London news papers (can't remember which but it could be the one we've been talking about

) that 20FS is on hold at the moment - i've looked back through the posts here and can't find anything to say if it is or not. Maybe i'm missing something somewhere (which is very possible), can anyone enlighten me?????

DarJoLe · September 10th, 2009, 11:57 AM

It's on hold until Land Securities want to build it.

Sesquip · September 10th, 2009, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightjar

Do you think as the London Paper winds down we'll see stories like "122LH to be built - IN KENSINGTON!" ???

P.s. I'll miss The London Paper's absurdly difficult GK crossword.

Impossible isn't it? General Knowledge my arse, "40 different types of incredibly specialised knowledge" more like!

future.architect · September 10th, 2009, 04:40 PM

not my thing at all and i normaly have very broad tastes, but this reminds me of a finger thats got caught in a door. i hope it is never built.

darrense14 · September 10th, 2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarJoLe

It's on hold until Land Securities want to build it.

But if it's on hold for long enough they will have to re-apply for planning permission surely?? How long do they have before that happens?

DarJoLe · September 10th, 2009, 08:55 PM

5 years? Or is 7 now? Either way I don't see why they wouldn't get it again if they have to.

Nightjar · September 14th, 2009, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by future.architect

not my thing at all and i normaly have very broad tastes, but this reminds me of a finger thats got caught in a door. i hope it is never built.

I think I dubbed this "The Sore Thumb" in one of my early rants.

Borromini's Ghost · October 6th, 2009, 01:08 PM

Oppressive.
So it's got a sky garden, big deal.

beleevme · October 6th, 2009, 06:42 PM

as London Lad one stated, a thread that dies for a few weeks and woken up again with 'i hate this tower'

potto · October 6th, 2009, 06:52 PM

load the artillery!

beleevme · October 6th, 2009, 07:58 PM

Borromini's Ghost- tough nut to crack that one

TomD'07 · October 6th, 2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borromini's Ghost

Oppressive.
So it's got a sky garden, big deal.

simon jenkins, is that you?....i see you hate strata too, maybe this is the wrong forum.

View Poll Results: What do you think of 20 Fenchurch Street?
It's one of my favorite projects, especially for being a very different design from everything else going up	115	29.79%
I find the design ok but want to have it built mostly for the skygarden	88	22.80%
I find the design ok but I'd rather have it not built because the location is completely wrong for it	70	18.13%
It's butt ugly, I hate it, please don't build it	113	29.27%
Voters: 386. You may not vote on this poll

September 4th, 2009, 11:20 AM	#86
Nightjar Bird Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Under a hedge Posts: 13,845 Likes (Received): 269	Thanks for that darrense14. Very interesting article. Not sure what to make of it though as it all sounds a little too good to be (completely) true. Also, I know what you mean about The City being off the beaten track potto but (if ever built) 20FS and it's Skygarden are surely going to get an immense amount of attention - even if there is only an initial "surge of people" it's gonna be massive - isn't it? No doubt tourist guide books are going to include it, City workers will be nipping up at lunch - and then there's the thousands of rabid SSCers! How will they cope!? ;0) Last edited by Nightjar; September 4th, 2009 at 11:28 AM.

September 10th, 2009, 11:57 AM	#90
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,672 Likes (Received): 397	It's on hold until Land Securities want to build it. __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

September 10th, 2009, 04:40 PM	#92
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September 10th, 2009, 08:55 PM	#94
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,672 Likes (Received): 397	5 years? Or is 7 now? Either way I don't see why they wouldn't get it again if they have to. __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

September 1st, 2009, 09:38 PM	#81
suede685 Lost Boy Join Date: May 2009 Location: West of London Posts: 74 Likes (Received): 0	Thanks for clearing that up ibiza!

September 2nd, 2009, 12:02 AM	#82
darrense14 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: London, New Cross Posts: 71 Likes (Received): 0	[QUOTE=Nightjar;41848396] looks like a fat tramp stumbling into the Thames./QUOTE] Every time i look at this now all i can see is a fat tramp stumbling forwards.

September 2nd, 2009, 05:22 PM	#83
Nightjar Bird Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Under a hedge Posts: 13,845 Likes (Received): 269	I didn't mean to suggest that public access would be completely restricted, just that logistically public access would be limited - can anybody imagine London Eye type crowds mingling around on Fenchurch Street trying to get in!? Incidentally I wonder how access would work: Pre-booked tickets perhaps - Does anyone know? P.s. If it ever does get built I'd definitely like to go up (but if they found out what I'd been saying I'm sure I'd be barred at the entrance).

September 3rd, 2009, 12:31 PM	#85
potto Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 13,508 Likes (Received): 257	You might get a surge of people in the beginning, the City is still a bit out of the way for most and the shard will certainly take the glamour. 1 Poultry has a nice public roof space and its never exactly heaving with people, there are plenty of great little spaces in the City that are often desserted. It is quite possible that this could become a niche space.

September 4th, 2009, 07:50 PM	#87
jimbo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Leeds/London Posts: 4,677 Likes (Received): 3	the londonpaper isn't quite the most reliable journalistic rag and Murdoch is about to shut it down anyhoo...... can't fault the sentiment though. It would be a wonderful outdoor space and insanely popular I suspect.

September 9th, 2009, 01:26 PM	#88
Nightjar Bird Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Under a hedge Posts: 13,845 Likes (Received): 269	Do you think as the London Paper winds down we'll see stories like "122LH to be built - IN KENSINGTON!" ??? P.s. I'll miss The London Paper's absurdly difficult GK crossword.

September 10th, 2009, 11:18 AM	#89
darrense14 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: London, New Cross Posts: 71 Likes (Received): 0	I read a couple of weeks ago in the one of the London news papers (can't remember which but it could be the one we've been talking about ) that 20FS is on hold at the moment - i've looked back through the posts here and can't find anything to say if it is or not. Maybe i'm missing something somewhere (which is very possible), can anyone enlighten me?????

October 6th, 2009, 01:08 PM	#96
Borromini's Ghost Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: London Posts: 218 Likes (Received): 7	Oppressive. So it's got a sky garden, big deal.

October 6th, 2009, 06:42 PM	#97
beleevme DJZoneOne Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: london Posts: 573 Likes (Received): 1	as London Lad one stated, a thread that dies for a few weeks and woken up again with 'i hate this tower' __________________ http://soundcloud.com/zoneone-1 My music :ZoneOne; Toxic mix of DNB/dubstep, electronic, industrial metal and rock

October 6th, 2009, 06:52 PM	#98
potto Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 13,508 Likes (Received): 257	load the artillery!

October 6th, 2009, 07:58 PM	#99
beleevme DJZoneOne Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: london Posts: 573 Likes (Received): 1	Borromini's Ghost- tough nut to crack that one __________________ http://soundcloud.com/zoneone-1 My music :ZoneOne; Toxic mix of DNB/dubstep, electronic, industrial metal and rock

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