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Old July 9th, 2009, 03:04 PM   #101
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true..

why cant alleppy chennai express and alleppy dhanbad express be extended to kollam/kochuveli/tvpm????

southern keralites hav to travel all the way to ernakulam to board trains to patna,barauni,pune,nagore too ......

IF RAJDHANI CAN HAV STOPS AT TRISHUR AS WELL AS SHORANUR WHICH R JUST 30 KMS APART , KOLLAM CAN RIGHTFULLY DEMAND FOR A R4AJADHANI STOP.. MOREOVER A 2 MINUTE STOP AT KOLLAM WILL NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE RUNNING TIME AS I HAVE SHOWN IN POST NO 71
This is not abt any fight against kollam... but even if a station is a junction and big.. we need to know the amount of travelers who looks for a particular route...

We need to compare and study before asking for route.. or stop straight away..

the amount of booking from a particular station needs to be more.. then surely railway will consider
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Old July 9th, 2009, 03:11 PM   #102
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EXPANSION OF RAIL PROJECTS IN MALABAR


PALAKKAD:

Around 99 lakh has been sanctioned for increasing passenger amenities at various stations in the Shoranur- Nilambur stretch. In addition, Rs 99 lakh each has been allotted for increasing amenities at the Kannur and Tirur stations, Rs 50 lakh to enhance facilities at Kuttippuram station and Rs 99 lakh to increase amenities at Vadakara and Thalassery stations.

The Railways has also allotted around Rs 99 lakh for the renovation of Angadippuram station. Another Rs 99 lakh has been allotted for the construction of platform shelters at Kannur, Kozhikode and Tirur stations, while Rs 67.75 lakh has been allotted for installing coach guidance system on two platforms in Tirur station. Additionally, Rs 40.72 lakh will be spent for installing LCD televisions at all important stations as well as for the setting up of enquiry counters and computerised announcement systems at Angadippuram, Vaniambalam and Nilambur stations.

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Old July 9th, 2009, 03:12 PM   #103
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New Delhi, Thursday, July 09, 2009:

Kozhikode Railway station will also upgraded to world-class stations.

Kasaragod, Vadakkara, Tirur and Pattikkad stations would be made into ‘Adarsh stations’.

Commercial complexes will be developed in Thrissur and Alapuzha along with Palakkad and Ernakulam.

the Ernakulam- Jaipur would be extended to Ajmeer.
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http://www.asianetindia.com/news/mam...ala_58182.html
good news for malabar...but southern kerala has been neglected.

y cant ekm-ajmer express b extended to trivandrum??

n what were the MPs of southern kerala doing during the budget discussion session??

and why include stations like pattikkad in the adarsh category in a state where there r many other busy railway stations???
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Old July 9th, 2009, 03:27 PM   #104
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Definitely not. The ratio doesnot hold good. You can travel 65 km back to cover a distance of about 3000km. The percentage comes to around 2% only. Wherein in your example it is about 20%.

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why cant alleppy chennai express and alleppy dhanbad express be extended to kollam/kochuveli/tvpm????

southern keralites hav to travel all the way to ernakulam to board trains to patna,barauni,pune,nagore too ......


The main culprit is the single line sections between KYJ & ERS via KTYM & ALP.

Once the tracks are fully developed as well as the Kochuveli Terminal/Nemom developed, we can expect some trains to be extended.

And let ALP & ERS also have some originating trains.

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Old July 9th, 2009, 03:36 PM   #105
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Preparing for MEMU services

There has been a lot of talk and interest in MEMU services in Kerala. For running more frequent local train service, and for it to be successful, I think the rail-road interchanges should be easier.

From Trivandrum side, Veli, and Kazhakoottam are kind of hard to reach from bus services. Ideally, we should get to a kind of Mumbai situation where the train stations are bus terminuses too.

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and why include stations like pattikkad in the adarsh category in a state where there r many other busy railway stations???
How horrible? Is is pattikkad or palakkad?
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This is not abt any fight against kollam... but even if a station is a junction and big.. we need to know the amount of travelers who looks for a particular route...

We need to compare and study before asking for route.. or stop straight away..

the amount of booking from a particular station needs to be more.. then surely railway will consider


of course there bare many commuters from kollam to delhi.....there r many kollamites who commute to tvpm to board the rajdhani..


also stops for rajdhani are alloted purely on the basis of political considerations and not on the basis of travellers' needs

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How horrible? Is is pattikkad or palakkad?
pattikkad according to asianet website..


HATS OFF TO THE MP THERE . HE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB
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Definitely not. The ratio doesnot hold good. You can travel 65 km back to cover a distance of about 3000km. The percentage comes to around 2% only. Wherein in your example it is about 20%.








The main culprit is the single line sections between KYJ & ERS via KTYM & ALP.

Once the tracks are fully developed as well as the Kochuveli Terminal/Nemom developed, we can expect some trains to be extended.

And let ALP & ERS also have some originating trains.
IT IS NOT ABOUT RATIOS AND PROPORTIONS...

THEN WHY ALLOT STOPS 4 RAJDHANI AT BOTH THRISHUR N SHORNUR WHICH ARE BARELY 30KMS APART
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IT IS NOT ABOUT RATIOS AND PROPORTIONS...

THEN WHY ALLOT STOPS 4 RAJDHANI AT BOTH THRISHUR N SHORNUR WHICH ARE BARELY 30KMS APART
Maybe you can try posting this in the Indian Government grievance website, or contact your MP?
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Old July 9th, 2009, 05:01 PM   #111
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Maybe you can try posting this in the Indian Government grievance website, or contact your MP?
i'd posted this in the indian railway website's vox populi 2 months ago
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Old July 9th, 2009, 06:45 PM   #112
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This is not abt any fight against kollam... but even if a station is a junction and big.. we need to know the amount of travelers who looks for a particular route...

We need to compare and study before asking for route.. or stop straight away..

the amount of booking from a particular station needs to be more.. then surely railway will consider
The booking from Kollam will be more than Trichur or even Shornur if a stop is allotted for Kollam Junction. Since, there is no stop for Rajadhani Express between Trivandrum and Ernakulam (221 Kms), a stop at Kollam Junction will benefit people from 4 districts of Kerala (Kollam, Northern Trivandrum, Pathanamthitta and Southern Allepy) and Tamil Nadu districts like Thenkasi and Thirunelveli. This will surely increase the Rajadhani bookings from Kollam. Without having a stop how come you predict the booking numbers.

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Always stick to the reason why the post is for. My post was specific for the TVM-Kollam commute. I do not have much say Kollam not having any stop and Thrissur having it.

If you want to substantiate that Kollam has more traffic than any other station you compare with like Thrissur or Calicut (not for Rajadhani, but the total traffic put together), come with authentic data or traffic statistics giving links.

And it is not advised to post in 'ALL CAPS'.

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IT IS NOT ABOUT RATIOS AND PROPORTIONS...

THEN WHY ALLOT STOPS 4 RAJDHANI AT BOTH THRISHUR N SHORNUR WHICH ARE BARELY 30KMS APART
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Always stick to the reason why the post is for. My post was specific for the TVM-Kollam commute. I do not have much say Kollam not having any stop and Thrissur having it.

If you want to substantiate that Kollam has more traffic than any other station you compare with like Thrissur or Calicut (not for Rajadhani, but the total traffic put together), come with authentic data or traffic statistics giving links.

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Some statistics of the earning of Kollam Junction:

The daily income of Kollam Junction from passenger traffic alone is more than 10 Lakhs. See the last paragraph of the Malayala Manorama news snippet.



This will skyrocket to even 20 Lakhs once the Kollam - Schencottah and MEMU services start operation. So the monthly earning may go beyond 5 crores in that case on an average compared to the 3 crores now. This is just the case of passenger traffic alone. Once, the Kollam - Schencotta Railway line is commisioned, the cargo traffic earning will go leaps and bounds as the import and export to Tamil Nadu districts will flourish again. The context is will become more relevant as the Kollam Port is going to become a major port and the link between Kollam Port and Tuticorin Port will be established with BG commisioning.

All these accounts for a bright future for Kollam Junctions Income and the statisitcs may be beyond our expectations.

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true..

why cant alleppy chennai express and alleppy dhanbad express be extended to kollam/kochuveli/tvpm????

southern keralites hav to travel all the way to ernakulam to board trains to patna,barauni,pune,nagore too ......
I dont think alleppey-chennai exp needs any further extension to south as already there are more trains to Chennai now than ever before. Once Kollam-Shencottah gauge conversion complete, there may be one more train to Chennai.

But there is huge waitlist for trains to Mumbai, Pune, Delhi, Bangalore, Howarah etc. Also there are trains that give first time connectivities to Kerala like Pune via Konkan, Jaipur, Patna, Okha etc. Definitely, these trains were initially intended to run till TVC but terminated at ERS citing "constraints".

We are always told by Railways that due to constraints no new train can be run till TVC until doubling completed & maintenance enhanced. The maintenance facility at TVC is criminally neglected by the SR zone and concerned politicians for past decades. But strangely every now & then we can see daily trains introduced from Chennai to TVC (by SR zonal railway pressure) and Mangalore to TVC (local state political pressure) resulting in a situation where the maintenance facility at TVC is choked to death.

Unfortunately, in this process those trains badly needed by TVC passengers like the ones to Bangalore, Pune, Goa, Mumbai & Delhi , even the weekly ones, got terminated at ERS & never extended to TVC as promised thereafter.

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IF RAJDHANI CAN HAV STOPS AT TRISHUR AS WELL AS SHORANUR WHICH R JUST 30 KMS APART , KOLLAM CAN RIGHTFULLY DEMAND FOR A R4AJADHANI STOP.. MOREOVER A 2 MINUTE STOP AT KOLLAM WILL NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE RUNNING TIME AS I HAVE SHOWN IN POST NO 71
Rajdhani initially had only Ernakulam and Kozhikode as stops in Kerala. First, kannur was added by our late EK Nayanar, former CM personally travelling Rajdhani from Delhi & getting down at Kannur with a special sanction from Rlwys. Kannur became a regular stop thereafter. Shoranur and Trichur were added due to immense political pressure later. Seeing this, our neighbouring Karnataka MPs got irritated, wasted no time, used their muscle & got stops at Udipi and Karwar . Thereafter another former Union minister from Maharashtra pressurised and got a stop at Sawanthwadi Road 100km away from Goa. So much for now about passenger patronage from stations as criteria for stoppages!

Moreover for Rajdhani, a few stations ahead have to be cleared of traffic before its run. Hence, it is usually complained that other trains get delayed or affected by Rajdhani. Hence, the faster Rajdhani clears of an area, the better for other trains. But unfortunately we are seeing many stops beeing added for Rajdhani slowing down Rajdhani as well as other trains in the section.

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Rajdhani initially had only Ernakulam and Kozhikode as stops in Kerala. First, kannur was added by our late EK Nayanar, former CM personally travelling Rajdhani from Delhi & getting down at Kannur with a special sanction from Rlwys. Kannur became a regular stop thereafter. Shoranur and Trichur were added due to immense political pressure later. Seeing this, our neighbouring Karnataka MPs got irritated, wasted no time, used their muscle & got stops at Udipi and Karwar . Thereafter another former Union minister from Maharashtra pressurised and got a stop at Sawanthwadi Road 100km away from Goa. So much for now about passenger patronage from stations as criteria for stoppages!

Moreover for Rajdhani, a few stations ahead have to be cleared of traffic before its run. Hence, it is usually complained that other trains get delayed or affected by Rajdhani. Hence, the faster Rajdhani clears of an area, the better for other trains. But unfortunately we are seeing many stops beeing added for Rajdhani slowing down Rajdhani as well as other trains in the section.
Rajdahani Express that originates from Kerala is specially for Keralaites which originates from our state capital. They should give prioriry for the stations in Kerala than Karnataka and Maharashtra. It is indeed the political pressure which gains the stops when we see the stops for Rajadhani even in Kerala.

Kollam Junction has all the rights to have a stop as it stops at Kollam for more than 3 minutes for technical reasons. It was the lack of will and Nelson's attitude by former MPs from Kollam for the plight.
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Some statistics of the earning of Kollam Junction:

The daily income of Kollam Junction from passenger traffic alone is more than 10 Lakhs. See the last paragraph of the Malayala Manorama news snippet.



This will skyrocket to even 20 Lakhs once the Kollam - Schencottah and MEMU services start operation. So the monthly earning may go beyond 5 crores in that case on an average compared to the 3 crores now. This is just the case of passenger traffic alone. Once, the Kollam - Schencotta Railway line is commisioned, the cargo traffic earning will go leaps and bounds as the import and export to Tamil Nadu districts will flourish again. The context is will become more relevant as the Kollam Port is going to become a major port and the link between Kollam Port and Tuticorin Port will be established with BG commisioning.

All these accounts for a bright future for Kollam Junctions Income and the statisitcs may be beyond our expectations.
Absolutely correct, Reghu. With the addition of Cargo traffic the 5 crore average for a month will be 3 or 4 folds. Definitely, the Kollam Cargo Port, the Neendakara Port (With the comminssioning of LPG Terminal), Kollam - Schencottah BG conversion will boost the monthly income of Kollam Junction to be one of the highest among Kerala stations.
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The booking from Kollam will be more than Trichur or even Shornur if a stop is allotted for Kollam Junction..
That was a fast anwser... thanks....
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Weekly express special trains

HUBLI: The railways has introduced two weekly express special trains between Ernakulam and Bangalore City to clear extra rush of passengers.


Ernakulam-Bangalore City Weekly Express (No. 0641) departs Ernakulam at 6.40 pm on Mondays (up to July 27 with four trips) and arrives at Bangalore City at 8.30 am on Tuesdays.

En route, the train will touch Aluva (at 7 pm), Thrissur (8.05 pm), Shoranur (9.15 pm), Palakkad (9.50 pm), Podannur (10.58 pm), Tiruppur (11.48), Erode (1.10 am), Jolarpettai (4.50 am), Kuppam (5.34 am), Bangarpet (6.15 am), Whitefield (7.13 am), Krishnarajapuram (7.30 am), and Bangalore Cantonment (5.02 am).

In the return direction, Bangalore City-Ernakulam Weekly Express Special (No. 0642) departs Bangalore City at 5.15 pm on Tuesdays (up to July 28 with four trips) and arrives at Ernakulam at 4.20 am on Wednesdays.

En route, it touches Bangalore Cantonment (at 5.25 pm), Krishnarajapuram (5.40 pm), Whitefield (5.53 pm), Bangarpet (6.28 pm), Kuppam (6.58 pm), Jolarpettai (7.55 pm), Tirupattur (7.58 pm), Salem (9.30 pm), Erode (10.30 pm), Tiruppur (11.13 pm), Podannur (12.03 am), Palakkad (1 am), Shoranur (2.05 am), Thrissur (2.30 am), and Aluva (3.30 am).

The weekly express special has 20 coaches in all, comprising one AC two-tier coach, two AC three-tier coaches, 12 second-class sleepers, three general second-class coaches and two second-class luggage-cum-brake vans.

The Ernakulam-Bangalore City Weekly Express Special (No. 0643) departs Ernakulam at 9.15 pm on Thursdays (up to July 30 with four trips) and arrives at Bangalore City at 10 am on Fridays.

En route, the train will touch at Aluva (at 9.38 pm), Thrissur (10.40 pm), Shoranur (11.40 pm), Palakkad (12.15 am), Podannur (1.28 am), Tiruppur (2.18 am), Erode (3.20 am), Salem (4.25 am), Tirupattur (5.58 am), Jolarpettai (6.10 am), Kuppam (6.33 am), Bangarpet (7.30 am), Whitefield (8.23 am), Krishnarajapuram (8.38 am) and Bangalore Cantonment (8.58 am).

In the return direction, Bangalore City-Ernakulam Weekly Express Special (No. 0644) departs Bangalore City at 6.50 pm on Fridays (up to July 31) and arrives at Ernakulam at 6.30 am on Saturdays.

En route, it will touch Bangalore Cantonment (at 7 pm), Krishnarajapuram (7.15 pm), Whitefield (7.30 pm), Bangarpet (8.03 pm), Kuppam (8.33 pm), Jolarpettai (9.40 pm), Tirupattur (9.58 pm), Salem (11.30 pm), Erode (12.30 am), Tiruppur (1.23 am), Podannur (2.13 am), Palakkad (3.20 am), Shoranur (4.30 am), Thrissur (4.50 am) and Aluva (5.45 am).

Special train services to continue

To enhance occupancy rate, the services of some trains have been extended. Accordingly, Patna-Bangalore City Weekly Superfast Special (No. 2296-A) departs Patna at 8.10 pm on Tuesdays (up to September 22 with 12 trips) and arrives at Bangalore City at 8.10 pm on Thursdays. In the return direction, Bangalore City-Patna Weekly Super Fast Special (No. 2295-A-) will depart Bangalore City at 9.30 am on Fridays (from July 10 to September 25 with 12 trips) and arrives at Patna at 9.50 am on Sundays.

The Howrah-Mysore Weekly Special (No. 0803) departs Howrah at 4.10 pm on Fridays (up to September 11 with 11 trips) and arrives at Mysore at 7.40 am on Sundays. In the return direction, Mysore-Howrah Weekly Express Special (No. 0804) will depart Mysore at 8.45 pm on Sundays (up to September 13 with 11 trips) and arrives at Howrah at 4.20 pm on Tuesdays.

The Howrah-Yeshwantpur Weekly Express Special (No. 0805) departs Howrah at 6.45 pm on Tuesdays (up to July 28 with four trips) and arrives at Yeshwantpur at 6.30 am on Thursdays. In the return direction, Yeshwantpur-Howrah Weekly Express Special (No. 0806) will depart Yeshwantpur at 11.55 pm on Thursdays (up to July 30 with four trips) and arrives at Howrah at 12.40 pm on Saturdays.

The Kacheguda-Bangalore City Weekly Express Special (No. 0703) departs Kacheguda at 9.55 pm on Sundays (up to September 27 with 13 trips) and arrives at Bangalore City at 11.55 am on Mondays. In the return direction, Bangalore City-Kacheguda Weekly Express Special (No. 0704) will depart Bangalore City at 1.05 pm on Mondays (up to September 28 with 13 trips) and arrives at Kacheguda at 4 am on Tuesdays.
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