Kerala Railways - Needs and Projects

[sudheeshnairs]

Dear Reghu alias Emerging Quilon,

BTW this reply is not wrt the stoppage of Rajadhani, but with the revenues earned from Kollam and other stations.

Thanks for the statistics. So Kollam Railway station is having revenue of Rs. 3 crore per month from ticket counter sales as on August 2007.

Thrissur Railway station is having revenue of Rs. 4.5 crore per month from ticket counter sales as on December 2006! The reservation revenue comes to around Rs. 1 crore.

By simple mathematics, Thrissur already earns one and a half times more than Kollam.

http://www.hindu.com/2006/12/13/stor...1305160300.htm

So it is better to be aware of the ground realities before going overboard. You can request for your needs, but cribbing beyond the limits will only help to lose the support of others.

Daily collection of 10 lakhs will not ‘skyrocket’ to 20 lakhs when Kollam-Shencottah line and MEMU becomes operational.

As I have said before in some other thread, Kollam-Shencottah is not that much an important trunk line when compared with the Thrissur-Shornur-Mangalore or Thrissur-Palakkad-Coimbatore line. How ‘important’ the route is evident from the fact that this link is now closed for years. Infact my relatives at Kollam used to call the Kollam-Punalur-Shencottah shuttles ‘Pitchakkaran Vandi’. Even if it creates a new route to Chennai, much traffic would not be there, since the existing route via ERS-PLKD would be fast.

Kollam Port as of now has seen only one small ship, with loose cargo like sand, rocks and eggs/vegetable. I do not think how it will double the revenue from Kollam railway station!! I have not seen any plan to have a rail connectivity to the Port still.

Coming to MEMU’s, it is more like a charity service. It would not bring much revenue to Railway. Most patrons would be second class season ticket holders.

[navjot]

Originally Posted by beam

We are always told by Railways that due to constraints no new train can be run till TVC until doubling completed & maintenance enhanced. The maintenance facility at TVC is criminally neglected by the SR zone and concerned politicians for past decades. But strangely every now & then we can see daily trains introduced from Chennai to TVC (by SR zonal railway pressure) and Mangalore to TVC (local state political pressure) resulting in a situation where the maintenance facility at TVC is choked to death.

Unfortunately, in this process those trains badly needed by TVC passengers like the ones to Bangalore, Pune, Goa, Mumbai & Delhi , even the weekly ones, got terminated at ERS & never extended to TVC as promised thereafter.

it is true.trivandrum central station is choking with lot of trains and only 6 platforms.its true that tvc has been neglected.

moreover the terminal facilities at kochuveli is progressing at snail's space and lack of funds.

once terminal facilities r developd at kochuveli more trains can b operated from there thus reducing pressure on trivandrum central.


the new trains from hapa and bilaspur are operating to tirunelveli due to lack of terminal facilities at trivandrum and nagercoil

[navjot]

Originally Posted by sudheeshnairs

Dear Reghu alias Emerging Quilon,

BTW this reply is not wrt the stoppage of Rajadhani, but with the revenues earned from Kollam and other stations.

Thanks for the statistics. So Kollam Railway station is having revenue of Rs. 3 crore per month from ticket counter sales as on August 2007.

Thrissur Railway station is having revenue of Rs. 4.5 crore per month from ticket counter sales as on December 2006! The reservation revenue comes to around Rs. 1 crore.

By simple mathematics, Thrissur already earns one and a half times more than Kollam.

http://www.hindu.com/2006/12/13/stor...1305160300.htm

So it is better to be aware of the ground realities before going overboard. You can request for your needs, but cribbing beyond the limits will only help to lose the support of others.

Daily collection of 10 lakhs will not ‘skyrocket’ to 20 lakhs when Kollam-Shencottah line and MEMU becomes operational.

As I have said before in some other thread, Kollam-Shencottah is not that much an important trunk line when compared with the Thrissur-Shornur-Mangalore or Thrissur-Palakkad-Coimbatore line. How ‘important’ the route is evident from the fact that this link is now closed for years. Infact my relatives at Kollam used to call the Kollam-Punalur-Shencottah shuttles ‘Pitchakkaran Vandi’. Even if it creates a new route to Chennai, much traffic would not be there, since the existing route via ERS-PLKD would be fast.

Kollam Port as of now has seen only one small ship, with loose cargo like sand, rocks and eggs/vegetable. I do not think how it will double the revenue from Kollam railway station!! I have not seen any plan to have a rail connectivity to the Port still.

Coming to MEMU’s, it is more like a charity service. It would not bring much revenue to Railway. Most patrons would be second class season ticket holders.

this is only bcos the no of train pairs passing through thrishur is 60 including weekly services and passenger trains,whereas the same for kollam jn is 44 according to railway timetable jul08-june09


if the new budget is taken into account the no for thrishur becomes 65 and the same for kollam jn becomes 48.

thats why revenue at thrishur is higher

moreover the figures of revenue at kollam jn shown in a previous post is when the kollam-punalur section was closed for conversion





express trains passing through kollam and not thru thrishur:


1 tvm-ekm intercity-daily
2 tvm ekm vanchinad daily


express trains passing thru thrishur n not thru kollam :

1 allp-dhanbad express daily
2 allp-chennai daily
3 allp-kannur daily
4ekm-kannur intercity daily
5ekm nizamuddin mangala lakshadweep daily
6 ekm-pune express
7 ekm-b'lore intercity daily
8 ekm-blore superfast
9 ekm-nagore tea garden exp dly
10 ekm nizamuddin millenium express
11 ekm-barauni exp
12 ekm-patna express6309/10
13 ekm-patna exp 6359/60 express
14 ekm-okha express
15 ekm-guwhati express
16 ekm-jaipur marusagar express
17 ekm-goa exp(new train)
18 tvm nizamuddin rajdhani






this clearly explains why ticket collection revenue at thrishur is more than that of kollam.most of the extra trains passing thru thrishur are daily trains which are always fully packd

[sudheeshnairs]

I want to say only that much!! Thrissur gets more revenue than Kollam. That is why it will get more priority than Kollam.

You cannot ask people who want to travel from Thrissur to come to Kollam so that it would get more revenue and more trains. As simple as that.

Originally Posted by navjot

ticket collection revenue at thrishur is more than that of kollam.most of the extra trains passing thru thrishur are daily trains which are always fully packd

[beam]

Originally Posted by navjot

once terminal facilities r developd at kochuveli more trains can b operated from there thus reducing pressure on trivandrum central.

The maintenance yard at Trivandrum central cannot expand due to lack of land available nearby and the five number of platforms cannot also be increased because of the yard. The proposal is to move the maintenance yard to a much bigger area available at Nemom 6 km south where Railways own land and in central station, utilise the present yard space to increase number of platforms.

Kochuveli is intended as a satellite station with only one pitline there now. Thus, the main station will always be TVC only. Hence, it is more urgent to bring up Nemom yard for more new train services to originate.

[vinod_2007]

Originally Posted by navjot

this is only bcos the no of train pairs passing through thrishur is 60 including weekly services and passenger trains,whereas the same for kollam jn is 44 according to railway timetable jul08-june09


if the new budget is taken into account the no for thrishur becomes 65 and the same for kollam jn becomes 48.

thats why revenue at thrishur is higher

moreover the figures of revenue at kollam jn shown in a previous post is when the kollam-punalur section was closed for conversion





express trains passing through kollam and not thru thrishur:


1 tvm-ekm intercity-daily
2 tvm ekm vanchinad daily


express trains passing thru thrishur n not thru kollam :

1 allp-dhanbad express daily
2 allp-chennai daily
3 allp-kannur daily
4ekm-kannur intercity daily
5ekm nizamuddin mangala lakshadweep daily
6 ekm-pune express
7 ekm-b'lore intercity daily
8 ekm-blore superfast
9 ekm-nagore tea garden exp dly
10 ekm nizamuddin millenium express
11 ekm-barauni exp
12 ekm-patna express6309/10
13 ekm-patna exp 6359/60 express
14 ekm-okha express
15 ekm-guwhati express
16 ekm-jaipur marusagar express
17 ekm-goa exp(new train)
18 tvm nizamuddin rajdhani

this clearly explains why ticket collection revenue at thrishur is more than that of kollam.most of the extra trains passing thru thrishur are daily trains which are always fully packd

This looks really funny.......

Its not only the number of train...

There should be travellers to travel.... that too... long distance places...

If Kollam is congested with travels who does not have any option to travel to few places.. It will certainly get into the railways notice...


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Take the case of CHENNAI MAIL which touches all these places including kollam..

Major amount of booking after ekm and tvm happens from TCR...

Some days.. TCR comes second...

So there should be a need for very request..

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I think it is high time we stop comparing our own cities.... I hope sudheesh will agree with me

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Project report of proposed Palakkad coach factory submitted

NEW DELHI: The detailed project report of the proposed rail coach factory in Kerala's Palakkad has been submitted to the Railway Board and the land promised by the state government for the project inspected, the Rajya Sabha was informed today.

"However, the time for completion of the project and people likely to be employed cannot be furnished at this stage," Minister of State for Railways E Ahamed said in a written reply.

The detailed project report, prepared by RITES, has already been scrutinised by the Railway Ministry and requisite approval taken.

He said the abstract cost of the project is estimated to be Rs 1,215.76 crore.


http://kaumudi.com/

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Railway track electrification work towards Kanyakumari on

Staff Reporter

Nagercoil: The Government has allotted Rs.40 crore for electrification of Kanyakumari-Thiruvananthapuram railway line.

In the recent railway budget presented by Union Minister for Railways Mamata Banerjee, adequate fund has been allotted for implementation preliminary works.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/07/10/stor...1057090100.htm

[beam]

Decision to have three modern stations in Malabar lauded

Kozhikode: The Malabar Train Development Action Committee (MTDAC) has thanked Railway Minister Mamata Banerjee and UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi for announcing upgrading of facilities at the Kozhikode railway station.

MTDAC also welcomed the decision to designate Kasaragod, Vadakara and Tirur as “modern” stations.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/07/10/stor...1051150300.htm

[Arul Murugan]

Originally Posted by Reghu

This will skyrocket to even 20 Lakhs once the Kollam - Schencottah and MEMU services start operation. So the monthly earning may go beyond 5 crores in that case on an average compared to the 3 crores now. This is just the case of passenger traffic alone. Once, the Kollam - Schencotta Railway line is commisioned, the cargo traffic earning will go leaps and bounds as the import and export to Tamil Nadu districts will flourish again. The context is will become more relevant as the Kollam Port is going to become a major port and the link between Kollam Port and Tuticorin Port will be established with BG commisioning.

All these accounts for a bright future for Kollam Junctions Income and the statisitcs may be beyond our expectations.

Reghu,

Just a small correct, MEMU is Main line electric multiple unit. Since QLN-SCT section is not an electrified section, MEMU cannot run. It should be DEMU which runs on Diesel.

Surely QLN-SCT BG connction will bring back the importance of Quilon back. I dream for 3 trains in that route.

1. Kollam-Chennai Quilon Mail via Madurai, Trichy
2. Kollam-Bangalore express via Madurai, Salem
3. Kollam-Coimbatore express via Madurai, Palani

But I doubt about cargo trains taking this route! The route is ghat one, so SR will not allow freight trains so easily.

[simpliCITY]

Originally Posted by navjot

this is only bcos the no of train pairs passing through thrishur is 60 including weekly services and passenger trains,whereas the same for kollam jn is 44 according to railway timetable jul08-june09


if the new budget is taken into account the no for thrishur becomes 65 and the same for kollam jn becomes 48.

thats why revenue at thrishur is higher

moreover the figures of revenue at kollam jn shown in a previous post is when the kollam-punalur section was closed for conversion





express trains passing through kollam and not thru thrishur:


1 tvm-ekm intercity-daily
2 tvm ekm vanchinad daily


express trains passing thru thrishur n not thru kollam :

1 allp-dhanbad express daily
2 allp-chennai daily
3 allp-kannur daily
4ekm-kannur intercity daily
5ekm nizamuddin mangala lakshadweep daily
6 ekm-pune express
7 ekm-b'lore intercity daily
8 ekm-blore superfast
9 ekm-nagore tea garden exp dly
10 ekm nizamuddin millenium express
11 ekm-barauni exp
12 ekm-patna express6309/10
13 ekm-patna exp 6359/60 express
14 ekm-okha express
15 ekm-guwhati express
16 ekm-jaipur marusagar express
17 ekm-goa exp(new train)
18 tvm nizamuddin rajdhani






this clearly explains why ticket collection revenue at thrishur is more than that of kollam.most of the extra trains passing thru thrishur are daily trains which are always fully packd

Everyone know Malabar region(North of Shornur) has few trains in its share compared to Southern kerala. but again Calicut & Manglore maintain a desent position in passenger revenue.

The mathematics of "angine aayirunnenkil" "ingeneaayirunnenkil" is also applicable here.

[sudheeshnairs]

Arul, he was mentioning about the MEMU services SR had planned as per the recommendations of DMRCL, who had done a study for Trivandrum suburban railway. The route is from Kollam to Neyyattinkara.

Originally Posted by Arul Murugan

Reghu,

Just a small correct, MEMU is Main line electric multiple unit. Since QLN-SCT section is not an electrified section, MEMU cannot run. It should be DEMU which runs on Diesel.

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Adarsh grade for station draws flak

MALAPPURAM: The announcement of Union Railway Minister Mamata Banerjee that the Pattikkad railway station, on the Nilambur-Shoranur route, will be upgraded as an ‘Adarsh station’ has come in for criticism.

Pattikkad is one of the eight halt stations between Shoranur and Nilambur, where the Railways do not post a permanent staff.

Passenger associations, in press statements issued here on Thursday, criticised the choice of Pattikkad by ignoring larger and busier stations like Nilambur, Angadipuram and Vaniyambalam.

The other stations to get the status are Alappuzha, Kasaragod and Tirur.

The revenue from the Pattikkad station is hardly one-eighth of the revenue from Nilambur or Angadipuram.

Angadipuram, Vaninyambalam and Nilambur are the only three block stations on the Nilambur-Shoranur route, a statement said.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/07/10/stor...1052340300.htm

[Reghu]

Originally Posted by beam

Adarsh grade for station draws flak

MALAPPURAM: The announcement of Union Railway Minister Mamata Banerjee that the Pattikkad railway station, on the Nilambur-Shoranur route, will be upgraded as an ‘Adarsh station’ has come in for criticism.

Pattikkad is one of the eight halt stations between Shoranur and Nilambur, where the Railways do not post a permanent staff.

Passenger associations, in press statements issued here on Thursday, criticised the choice of Pattikkad by ignoring larger and busier stations like Nilambur, Angadipuram and Vaniyambalam.

The other stations to get the status are Alappuzha, Kasaragod and Tirur.

The revenue from the Pattikkad station is hardly one-eighth of the revenue from Nilambur or Angadipuram.

Angadipuram, Vaninyambalam and Nilambur are the only three block stations on the Nilambur-Shoranur route, a statement said.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/07/10/stor...1052340300.htm

Great vision and idea by the railway authorities. When important stations are devoid of stops and facilities they give it to Pattikkad station. Quite interesting. This is the descretion of political power. Ultimately, the Neta wins over the Janata.

[Reghu]

Originally Posted by beam

Adarsh grade for station draws flak

MALAPPURAM: The announcement of Union Railway Minister Mamata Banerjee that the Pattikkad railway station, on the Nilambur-Shoranur route, will be upgraded as an ‘Adarsh station’ has come in for criticism.

Pattikkad is one of the eight halt stations between Shoranur and Nilambur, where the Railways do not post a permanent staff.

Passenger associations, in press statements issued here on Thursday, criticised the choice of Pattikkad by ignoring larger and busier stations like Nilambur, Angadipuram and Vaniyambalam.

The other stations to get the status are Alappuzha, Kasaragod and Tirur.

The revenue from the Pattikkad station is hardly one-eighth of the revenue from Nilambur or Angadipuram.

Angadipuram, Vaninyambalam and Nilambur are the only three block stations on the Nilambur-Shoranur route, a statement said.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/07/10/stor...1052340300.htm

I cannot understand what are the benefits of an Adarsh station!! How come a big station like Alleppy or Kottayam in the same category that of Pattikad? Quite bizzare and queer!!

[arshad_pkd]

http://www.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bi...5251&BV_ID=@@@

[engineer.akash]

Special trains between Ernakulam and Bangalore

Staff Correspondent

HUBLI: Southern Railway has decided to run weekly express special trains between Ernakulum and Bangalore (0641/0642) till July 28, a release said.

Accordingly, Ernakulam-Bangalore City Weekly Express Special (0641) will leave Ernakulam at 6.40 p.m. on Mondays (till July 27) and reach Bangalore at 8.30 a.m. on Tuesday.

In the return direction, Bangalore City-Ernakulam Weekly Express Special (0642) will leave Bangalore at 5.15 p.m. on Tuesdays (till July 28) and reach Ernakulam at 4.20 a.m. on Wednesdays.

The weekly express special has 20 coaches, including an AC 2-tier coach, two AC 3-tier coaches, and 12 second class sleepers.

Ernakulam-Bangalore City Weekly Express Special (0643) will leave Ernakulam at 9.15 p.m. on Thursdays (till July 30) and reach Bangalore City at 10 a.m. on Fridays. In the return direction, Bangalore City-Ernakulam Weekly Express Special (0644) will leave Bangalore at 6.50 p.m. on Fridays (till July 31) and reach Ernakulam at 6.30 a.m. on Saturdays.

The Weekly Express Special has 13 coaches, including one AC 2-tier coach, one AC 3-tier coach, seven second class sleepers, two general second class coaches and two second class luggage-cum-brake vans.


http://www.hindu.com/2009/07/11/stor...1152260500.htm

[Arul Murugan]

Originally Posted by sudheeshnairs

Arul, he was mentioning about the MEMU services SR had planned as per the recommendations of DMRCL, who had done a study for Trivandrum suburban railway. The route is from Kollam to Neyyattinkara.

I didn't see the previous discussion fully. Thanks for clarification....

[beam]

Originally Posted by Arul Murugan

Surely QLN-SCT BG connction will bring back the importance of Quilon back. I dream for 3 trains in that route.

1. Kollam-Chennai Quilon Mail via Madurai, Trichy
2. Kollam-Bangalore express via Madurai, Salem
3. Kollam-Coimbatore express via Madurai, Palani

But I doubt about cargo trains taking this route! The route is ghat one, so SR will not allow freight trains so easily.

If I remember following express trains were running from Kollam during MG era.
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Kollam-Nagore
Kollam-Cudalore port
Kollam-Chennai( 2 express trains)
Kollam-Coimbatore
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All these trains may be restored after BG conversion and some of them may be run from TVC, provided space available.

In addition, new trains to other destinations like Salem, Tuticorin, Pondichery may be introduced.

If cargo trains can take the challenging brananza ghat in Kulem-Castle rock ghat section of Goa-Londa BG line, why not Punalur-Shencottah line?

[jaleelmalik]

Originally Posted by vinod_2007

As TVM - kollam is a twin city i think it's fine to travel to TVM

Just a joke

Ente Vinod ae - athu Reghuvinte kadaykkal thanne kathy vachathanallo.
Quilon is ready to emerge.