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Old October 4th, 2009, 11:03 PM   #61
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PATH is $1.75 USD.

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Old October 5th, 2009, 10:27 PM   #62
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PATH is $1.75 USD.

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Old October 6th, 2009, 03:01 AM   #63
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http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009...-the-world.php

... We may agree that New York's is the most reliable and largest subway system on balance...


Who are "we"?
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Old October 7th, 2009, 04:06 PM   #64
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So they can compare...? Apples to apples.

By the way, I had no intention of making this a "post your city's transit fare" thread. I just wanted to share the article.
London single fare:
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Adult and child tickets

Adult Peak Off-Peak
Journeys in:
Zones 1-2 £6.70 £5.10
Zones 1-3 £8.10 £5.80
Zones 1-4 £9.50 £5.80
Zones 1-5 £12.10 £7.00
Zones 1-6 £14.30 £7.00
Zones 1-9 £15.70 £8.50
Zones 1-8 + Watford Junction £17.50 £13.30
Zone 2 £6.70 £4.60
Zones 2-3 £8.10 £4.60
Zones 2-6 £8.50 £4.60
Zones 2-9 £10.10 £5.10
Zones 2-8 + Watford Junction £12.10 £7.10
Oyster daily price cap: (a.k.a. the MAXIMUM that will ever be charged from your any day)

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Oyster daily price capping

Daily price capping is the most you will be charged a day when you use Oyster to pay as you go on bus, Tube, tram, DLR, London Overground and some National Rail services.
Adult and child tickets

Adult Peak Off-Peak
Journeys in:
Zones 1-2 £6.70 £5.10
Zones 1-3 £8.10 £5.80
Zones 1-4 £9.50 £5.80
Zones 1-5 £12.10 £7.00
Zones 1-6 £14.30 £7.00
Zones 1-9 £15.70 £8.50
Zones 1-8 + Watford Junction £17.50 £13.30
Zone 2 £6.70 £4.60
Zones 2-3 £8.10 £4.60
Zones 2-6 £8.50 £4.60
Zones 2-9 £10.10 £5.10
Zones 2-8 + Watford Junction £12.10 £7.10
Oh my god ... same price ??? considering that the "single ticket" doesn't apply to london travel ticketing we can surelly get the "point" of comparing apples with apples ... the daily ticket is IDENTICAL to the single ticket.

Some comparisons:

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Oxford Circus to Cannon Street [London Underground]

Single fare: Cash £4.00 at any time.
Oyster £1.60 at any time.
By the way ... any other apple other than the "big apple" ??? .
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Old October 7th, 2009, 04:17 PM   #65
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I'm sounding like a broken record. 1) This is NOT my list, it's just an article I found. 2) They chose single fare, paper tickets because it was easiest to compare across all systems.
Ok then ... add my local Metro systemsa to the list:


Lisboa (Metropolitano de Lisboa) = 0$ ... there IS NO such thing as a papper ticket nor a single fare

Almada (Metro Transportes do Sul (to me its a tram but then again)) = 0$ ... there IS NO such thing as a papper ticket nor a single fare

Porto (Metro do Porto (to me its a tram but then again)) = 0$ ... there IS NO such thing as a papper ticket nor a single fare



We must live in the 3rd world or something like that ...


Then again in a more serious tone:

Lisboa metropolitan area (a electronic ticket costs you 0,5€) and we just add cash to them (wich is then discounted when we run the cards in entrance/exits, just like london oyster and most other european ticketing systems):

ML (metropolitano lisboa) = 0,8€ for 1 zone and 1,1€ for 2 zones
MTS = 0,85€ single trip) or 0,75€ (if you buy 10 tickets)

Notice: if you just want a single trip you need to PAY for the card and just return it when you end your trip (they just refund you the 0,5€)


If you walk out of the metro and enter a bus then things start to get complicated since both use the same ticketing so the BUS fare adds to the metro fare and you pay as low as 0,79€ fo the metro trip and anithing from 1,59€ to 2,7€ for the bus+metro trips (notice that you can use buses prior and after using the metro in this mode).

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Old October 7th, 2009, 04:22 PM   #66
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So really we need to tally the average cost of every single rider on a transit system, then compare across all system...

You are missing the point of the article. If I were to walk into a tube station, buy one ticket, one way, then what is the average cost I'd have to pay? If I were to walk into a CTA station buy one ticket, one way, what is the average cost? Etc, etc, etc. The article is comparing single tickets to single tickets...it doesn't make much sense to compare single tickets to monthly passes; or single tickets to reduced fare; or monthly passes to reduced fare; etc. Do you see the fallacy in doing such a comparison?

Let me put it this way: If I were to make a comparison is rental cars with manual transmission and look at the average costs from a number of different countries, what sense would it be to argue that most rental vehicles in the USA are automatic transmission? The comparison is still valid regardless of popularity of manual transmission in the US.
Single tickets are Almost nowhere to be seen here in this side of the pond ... unno:
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Old October 8th, 2009, 05:39 AM   #67
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Where and what is PATH?
Port Authority Trans Hudson. Only the busiest passenger per track mile rapid transit system in the world. Opened in 1908 as the Hudson & Manhattan railroad, taken over in the 60's by the PANYNJ who also owns and operates several NY area airports, a large bus terminal, ground zero/wtc and some other things. Hudson, because it runs in Hudson county, NJ, and manhattan, because it runs to Manhattan island.

It was financed primarily by the PRR as a way to get people to manhattan without using ferry boats.

Main site: http://www.panynj.gov/path/

I use this system quite often, it is very useful, and new, modern rolling stock is currently on schedule to replace dated rolling stock.

Fares were increased last november to 1.75 from 1.50. Still a deal!

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Old January 11th, 2011, 06:47 PM   #68
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The single journey ticket fare (magnetic paper ticket) of Kolkata metro is Rs. 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 & 14. I live in Kolkata. There also 2, and multiride, and multi person ticket avilable. Smart card is also running.
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Old January 11th, 2011, 06:56 PM   #69
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In Stockholm a single ticket cost around $6 USD or €4.5 EUR.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 08:29 AM   #70
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In Stockholm a single ticket cost around $6 USD or €4.5 EUR.
Nope, not quite. For one zone in Stockholm the ticket is 30SEK which works out (according to xe.com) to be $4.39US or €3.38.

They are comparing single fare, single zone fares at the moment (a pointless exercise as transit users never buy single fares as you or I know and the monthly fares in Stockholm are quite low compared to the rest of the world where I have travelled).
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Old January 12th, 2011, 09:25 AM   #71
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transit users never buy single fares as you or I know and the monthly fares in Stockholm are quite low
And what do Tourists do?
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Old January 12th, 2011, 09:52 AM   #72
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Well right now Philadelphia's is $2.00 and New York's $2.25 (supposed to go up to $2.50 by the end of the year).
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And what do Tourists do?
As I did. Stockholm for example offer 1 day, three day, seven day or monthly passes. With that level of flexibility why would you begin to think about buying a single fare anywhere given the airport itself has a desk for buying tickets on the network?
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In Sydney, it costs a whopping AU$4 (US$3.92) to travel 10 stops (within Zone 1) on CityRail. There are 4 stations (2 are Airport stations) that require a Station Access Fee. This is AU$10 for Airport stations and AU$2 for other stations.

But a weekly ticket that includes all buses, trains and ferries within Zone 1 costs AU$41 (US$40.18), with further discounts for monthly and yearly tickets.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 11:03 AM   #75
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They are comparing single fare, single zone fares at the moment (a pointless exercise as transit users never buy single fares as you or I know and the monthly fares in Stockholm are quite low compared to the rest of the world where I have travelled).
Quite true. The other issue never mentioned is what area is covered in the singe "zone". Some cities may seem more expensive, but the area covered may be much larger.
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Quite true. The other issue never mentioned is what area is covered in the singe "zone". Some cities may seem more expensive, but the area covered may be much larger.
So what we really should do is list a load of passes with prices translated into US dollars. For example I'll do Auckland and Stockholm.

Auckland:

There are four different bus companies in Auckland and one train company. You CANNOT use bus passes on different operators meaning you need to buy two separate passes or a combined pass to use different bus operators. You also can't interchange to the train unless you buy a train pass.

ALL PRICES USD

Single Fare
Bus:
One Zone: $1.37
Two Zones: $2.59
Three Zones: $3.42
Four Zones: $4.26
Five Zones: $5.18
Six Zones: $6.01
Seven Zones: $6.85
Eight Zones: $7.84
Day Ticket Buses (Excluding zone 8): $7.61

Train:
One Zone: $1.21
Two Zones: $2.36
Three Zones: $3.12
Four Zones: $3.88
Five Zones: $4.64
Six Zones: $5.10
Pukekohe Zone: $7.46
Day Ticket: $8.37

Combined Train and Bus Day Pass: $11.03

Weekly Passes and 10 ride passes
Bus:
Weekly all zones: $38.82

10 Ride:
One Zone: $6.85
Two Zones: $12.94
Three Zones: $17.84
Four Zones: $22.84
Five Zones: $27.02
Six Zones: $30.83
Seven Zones: $36.17
Eight Zones: $41.42

Train:
10 Ride:
One Zone: $10.36
Two Zones: $20.63
Three Zones: $28.09
Four Zones: $34.95
Five Zones: $41.80
Six Zones: $45.91
Pukekohe Zone: $66.55

Monthly Ticket:
Bus:
Monthly A Zone: $97.46
Monthly B Zone: $97.46
Monthly A+B Zone: $144.68

Train:
Monthly Ticket A Zone: $83.76
Monthly Ticket All Zones: $129.45
Monthly Ticket (Pukekohe): $182.76

Combined Bus and Train Ticket (Excluding Pukekohe and Waitakere): $175.14


Stockholm

Integrated transit with tickets valid on all modes.

Single Fares
Zone 1: $4.41
Zone 2: $6.62
Zone 3: $8.82

24 Hour All Zones: $14.71
72 Hour All Zones: $29.42

Weekly Ticket: $38.24
30 Day Ticket: $101.48
90 Day Ticket: $295.64
Annual Ticket: $1055.00


I think Stockholm is a perfect example of how expensive single fares are compared to the passes which are incredibly cheap by comparison.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 04:24 PM   #77
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Kolkata metro is perhaps the cheapest. The lowest priced ticket costs Rs 4 ... with $1 = Rs 45, that makes it 0.09 USD.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 05:08 PM   #78
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The fare of Madrid metro has been €1.00 ($1.30) for millenia...
Last Friday, I paid €1.45 ($1.88) for a single ride in Barcelona.

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Old January 12th, 2011, 05:17 PM   #79
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in Buenos Aires a single is 0.21 euro or 0.27 U$S
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Madrid
One way ticket for Madrid city: 1€ ($1,3).
One way ticket for Madrid city and metropolitan area: 2€ ($2,6).
One way ticket from Madrid city to Madrid Barajas airport: 2€ ($2,6).
One way ticket from Madrid metropolitan area to Madrid Barajas airport: 3€ ($3,9).
Ten trips for Madrid city: 9,3€ ($12,15).
Ten trips for Madrid city and metropolitan area: 15€ ($19,6).

Our one way ticket is one of the cheapest in Spain, but our "ten trips ticket" is the most expensive in the country.
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