Tamil Nadu Buses - Photos & Discussion

[chennaivaasi123]

Originally Posted by dr_thapalathy

Hi friends,

As i mentioned earlier, PRTC got some new SLF buses under JnNURM. Now i clarified about the exact no of buses. They are Diesel buses with the following composition:

40 SLF Non-AC buses with BS-III emission standards.
10 SLF AC VOLVO buses with Euro-III emission standards.


Of those, 20 SLF Non-AC Buses arrived and 10 of those will be inaugurated on June 7th.

of these, any routes to/via chennai?

[Kewl Batty]

They're supposed to be city buses for Pondy, why would they come to Chennai?

[ArunKumarB]

சேலம் : தமிழகம் முழுவதும் தொலைதூர அரசு பஸ்களில், 15 ரூபாய் வரை கட்டணம் உயர்த்தப் பட்டுள்ளது. இதனால், பயணிகள் அதிருப்தி அடைந்துள்ளனர்.

தமிழ்நாடு அரசு போக்குவரத்து கழகம் மூலம், 20 ஆயிரத்துக்கும் மேற்பட்ட பஸ்கள் இயக்கப்படுகின்றன. சென்னை, கோவை, திருச்சி, சேலம், மதுரை, விழுப்புரம் உள்ளிட்ட கோட்டங்கள் மூலம், முக்கிய நகரங்களுக்கு தொலைதூர பஸ்கள் இயக்கப்படுகின்றன. அதிவிரைவு பஸ்களும் பயன்பாட்டில் உள்ளன. மக்கள் தொகைக்கு ஏற்ப புதிய வழித்தடங்களில், கூடுதல் பஸ்கள் இயக்கப்படுகின்றன. மற்ற மாநிலங்களை விட, தமிழகத்தில்தான் பஸ் கட்டணம் குறைவு என்று பெருமை பேசும் தமிழக அரசு, நான்கு ஆண்டுகளாக விழா காலங்களில், மறைமுகமாக கட்டண உயர்வை அமல்படுத்தி, பொதுமக்களை சிரமப்படுத்துகிறது. தீபாவளி, பொங்கல் போன்ற பண்டிகை நாட்களில், போக்குவரத்துக்கு லாயக்கற்ற பஸ்களையும், நீண்ட தூர வழித்தடத்தில் இயக்கி, அதிக கட்டணம் வசூலிக்கும் நிலை உள்ளது. கோவில் விழாக்கள், சுற்றுலா தலங்கள் செல் லும் பஸ்களிலும், இந்த நடைமுறை அமல்படுத்தப்படுகிறது. "சிறப்பு பஸ்' என்ற ஸ்டிக்கரை ஒட்டிக் கொண்டு வலம் வரும் பஸ்களில், ஏறுவதற்கே மக்கள் தயங்குகின்றனர்.


சென்னை, கோவை, திருப்பூர், சேலம், திருச்சி, மதுரை, பெங்களூரு உள்ளிட்ட நகரங்களில், தென்மாவட்ட மக்கள் அதிகம் பேர், தொழில் காரணமாக வசிக்கின்றனர். கோடை விடுமுறைக்கு உறவினர் வீடுகளுக்கும், சொந்த ஊர்களுக்கும், சுற்றுலா தலங்களுக்கும் சென்றவர்கள், கோடை விடுமுறை முடிந்து, தொழில் மற்றும் பணிபுரியும் ஊர்களுக்கு திரும்பி வருகின்றனர். இன்னும் ஒரு வாரத்துக்கு, பஸ்களில் கூட்டம் அதிகமாக இருக்கும் என்பதால், அரசு போக்குவரத்து கழக பஸ்களில், ஐந்து முதல் 15 ரூபாய் வரை கட்டணம் உயர்த்தப்பட்டுள்ளது. சேலத்திலிருந்து மதுரை, திருப்பூர், கோவை, சேலம் செல்லும் எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் பஸ்களில், 10 ரூபாய் வரை கட்டணம் உயர்த்தப்பட்டுள்ளது. தாழ்தள டவுன் பஸ்கள் அனைத்தும், தற்போது, வெளியூர்களுக்கு சிறப்பு பஸ் என்ற பெயரில் விடப்பட்டுள்ளது.


பொதுமக்கள் கூறுகையில், "கட்டணம் உயர் வில்லை என கூறிவிட்டு, மறைமுகமாக கட்டணம் வசூலிக்கின்றனர். கட்டண உயர்வு பற்றி கேட்டால், கண்டக்டர்களும் எரிந்து விழுகின்றனர். தனியார் பஸ்களில் இதுபோன்று இல்லை. "அரசு மறைமுகமாக கட்டணத்தை உயர்த்தி வருவது வேதனை ஏற்படுத்துகிறது' என்றனர். தொலைதூர அரசு பஸ் கண்டக்டர் ஒருவர் கூறுகையில், "ஒவ்வொரு நாளும் ஒரு கட்டணத்தை அதிகாரிகள் கூறுகின்றனர். அவர்கள் சொல்வதை நாங்கள் கேட்கிறோம். "எங்களுக்கே குழப்பமாக உள்ளது. கட்டண விவரம் குறித்த பட்டியலை கொடுத்துள்ளனர். அதை பார்த்து, பார்த்து டிக்கெட் கொடுப்பதும் கஷ்டமாக உள்ளது' என்றார்.

http://www.dinamalar.com/district_main.asp?id=276#10128

[dhandapanik]

This is very much true.

Madurai - Palani actual ticket rate is 32. Now only pvt buses collects these fare. But TNSTC-MDU( MDU & DGl regions) started collecting 36 once. Once the kodai road toll gate was opened they collected 37 and on saturday onwards they started collecting 40 in few buses. During festival times they used to collect 50 rs in the name of special bus.

[Arul Murugan]

Originally Posted by dhandapanik

This is very much true.

Madurai - Palani actual ticket rate is 32. Now only pvt buses collects these fare. But TNSTC-MDU( MDU & DGl regions) started collecting 36 once. Once the kodai road toll gate was opened they collected 37 and on saturday onwards they started collecting 40 in few buses. During festival times they used to collect 50 rs in the name of special bus.

Why do you bash Dhadapanik?

If they are not charging the money appropriate for new deluxe buses then they have to invest thousands of crores to bail out TNSTC. Let TNSTC buses comes to profit with this new deluxe buses. You expect gvt to charge same 2 rupees with this new deluxe buses too?

I am really happy that gvt could charge more for new deluxe buses let it be on city routes or mofusil routes. But people believing in DMK and their family channel campaign that there is no hike in bus fare (through Deluxe) are still in ignorance.

Let us welcome the new fare structure for deluxe buses instead of bashing.

[dhandapanik]

Originally Posted by Arul Murugan

Why do you bash Dhadapanik?

If they are not charging the money appropriate for new deluxe buses then they have to invest thousands of crores to bail out TNSTC. Let TNSTC buses comes to profit with this new deluxe buses. You expect gvt to charge same 2 rupees with this new deluxe buses too?

I am really happy that gvt could charge more for new deluxe buses let it be on city routes or mofusil routes. But people believing in DMK and their family channel campaign that there is no hike in bus fare (through Deluxe) are still in ignorance.

Let us welcome the new fare structure for deluxe buses instead of bashing.

Arul,
i'm not against any fare hike imposed by TNSTC. Being a fan of TNSTCs i will not oppose the fare hikes. We are paying very less fares(after illegal hike also) for same distance present in TN and KL.

One small comparison.
POY-CBE(40 KM) -- 12 rs(Normal) and 13 rs(Express)
POY-Palghat(around 40-45 KM) - fare is almost double.. charging around 25-30 Rs.

Increase the fares with appropriate law thats all. Make it as a legal hike. Dont make it illegal. This illegal hike will always result in creating problem with commuters and conductors. Finally what we will say, TNSTC crew behavior is not gud. If you ask our respected ministers, they will not accept this illegel fare hikes. But this is real.

In madurai city you can find only one normal bus within 10 SLFs. that too the normal service will have a "City Express" sticker and they will collect city express fare. This is wat we call as illegal hike.

The recently introduced air bus by TNSTC-MDU between CBE and MDU got regular passengers. Even though fare is 10 rs higher than the regular services, commuters welcomed it because of the reduced travel time.

[dr_thapalathy]

Originally Posted by chennaivaasi123

of these, any routes to/via chennai?

I think the 10 VOLVO AC buses will be used for Chennai only as the city route VOLVO will never become a success in pondy unlike Pondy - Chennai VOLVO

[dr_thapalathy]

Originally Posted by dhandapanik

Arul,
i'm not against any fare hike imposed by TNSTC. Being a fan of TNSTCs i will not oppose the fare hikes. We are paying very less fares(after illegal hike also) for same distance present in TN and KL.

One small comparison.
POY-CBE(40 KM) -- 12 rs(Normal) and 13 rs(Express)
POY-Palghat(around 40-45 KM) - fare is almost double.. charging around 25-30 Rs.

Mr Dhandabani, since the buses in POU-Palghat route is an inter-state, the buses need to pay tax to 2 state govts, ie extra tax. So, they collect it from people, by charging extra o ticket. This is nothing illegal.

[arun82]

Originally Posted by chennaivaasi123

of these, any routes to/via chennai?

The TNSTC VPNM volvos to pondy are filling up in CMBT itself , So pondy govt would have thought it is good to buy the same white colour 8400 SLF volvo instead of 9400 which will look expensive for the ordinary commuter

[dhandapanik]

Originally Posted by dr_thapalathy

Mr Dhandabani, since the buses in POU-Palghat route is an inter-state, the buses need to pay tax to 2 state govts, ie extra tax. So, they collect it from people, by charging extra o ticket. This is nothing illegal.

Thalapathy,
i didnt say POY-PGT fares as illegal. We cannot have illegal fare hike in this section. They cannot just paste "Express" stickers and do the hike here. i just compared the fares with interstate routes and our TN fares. I didnt mention the nature of comparison. Sorry!

May be gud comparison will be the Fares inside kerala and TN. I think this might be better comparison of fares inside TN and KL.

Palani - Madurai(around 110 KM) - Normal(32), After Hike(37/40), special 50. Travel time 2.5 hrs to 3 hrs
Palakkad - Trichur BS (<75 KM) - LS/TT service(38.50)

Just see the distance and fares in the above routes. Still TN fares are less after doing this illegal fare hike.

[dr_thapalathy]

Originally Posted by arun82

The TNSTC VPNM volvos to pondy are filling up in CMBT itself , So pondy govt would have thought it is good to buy the same white colour 8400 SLF volvo instead of 9400 which will look expensive for the ordinary commuter

Before the VOLVO SLF buses are being bought and start plying, PRTC will start a 9400 VOLVO UHF (the one like KSRTC Airawat) to Chennai, once it's FC is renewed. I think it will be done by June itself. The fare will be Rs 150 only. I got this info from a PRTC driver.

[dr_thapalathy]

Originally Posted by dhandapanik

Thalapathy,
i didnt say POY-PGT fares as illegal. We cannot have illegal fare hike in this section. They cannot just paste "Express" stickers and do the hike here. i just compared the fares with interstate routes and our TN fares. I didnt mention the nature of comparison. Sorry!

May be gud comparison will be the Fares inside kerala and TN. I think this might be better comparison of fares inside TN and KL.

Palani - Madurai(around 110 KM) - Normal(32), After Hike(37/40), special 50. Travel time 2.5 hrs to 3 hrs
Palakkad - Trichur BS (<75 KM) - LS/TT service(38.50)

Just see the distance and fares in the above routes. Still TN fares are less after doing this illegal fare hike.

Ya, you are correct. We can't say this as illegal. If fare hike is done illegal, the current govt can't take the ruling seat in the next season. This is the nature of our people. Moreover, at the same time, they need to take care of these. They are running under heavy losses and they need to manage it. Already TN govt is having a debt of Rs 10000 crore to the central govt. So, they have increased the fare, which they made the people believe and accept without any objection. Till now, as a way to minimize the loss, they were using the method of Speed restriction to save diesel and increase mileage.
I don't know whether any one of you know it or not, TNSTC buses are given the best award nationally for connectivity and then for fuel efficiency. They are retaining this for past three years.

For sure, if there is direct fare hike, many people will not accept it and start wasting their and our time in the name of bandh, oorvalam etc.

[dr_thapalathy]

Originally Posted by arun82

The TNSTC VPNM volvos to pondy are filling up in CMBT itself , So pondy govt would have thought it is good to buy the same white colour 8400 SLF volvo instead of 9400 which will look expensive for the ordinary commuter

Most of the crowd to Pondy/Chennai are waiting in the bus stand and are rushing and fighting to get seats in the TNSTC Volvo buses, just like we see people fighting for seats in normal buses in some remote places.

[dr_thapalathy]

Originally Posted by anirudhswetha

JNNURM included cities with population above 10 lakhs ,, state/UT capitals and certain tourist centres.Pondy got qualified under capital of UT .
Anirudh
Salem

Even Pondy district alone has the population of More than 10 lakh.

[dhandapanik]

Originally Posted by dr_thapalathy

I don't know whether any one of you know it or not, TNSTC buses are given the best award nationally for connectivity and then for fuel efficiency. They are retaining this for past three years.

For sure, if there is direct fare hike, many people will not accept it and start wasting their and our time in the name of bandh, oorvalam etc.

You are correct. But we never know what is the right fare in particular route. They keep on changing it. Thats the problem.

TNSTCs connected every corner of the state. No state in india has got such a gud connectivity. Proud of TNSTCs

[srikanthlogic]

Originally Posted by Kewl Batty

They're supposed to be city buses for Pondy,
why would they come to Chennai?

Unless PRTC takes a cue from TNSTC CBE / MDU on successfully operating JnNURM buses. Going by CBE, MDU method, PRTC too can operate on chennai since chennai is also served by JnNURM

[dhandapanik]

Blog about Pollachi-Valparai Hill rider

After long wait im putting up my favorite hill rider blog. I used to watch these buses right from my child hood days. I had an opportunity to travel in this bus first time when my dad took me to Balaji temple at valparai. It happened around 15 yrs ago.

This Pollachi - Valparai hill rider was built with Leyland Cheetah 9M chasis. This is one of the main hill routes present for TNSTC-CBE. This Pollachi - valparai Hill rider is operated by Valparai, Pollachi-2,3 depots. These hill riders for TNSTC-CBE are built by TNSTC-CBE body building unit at pollachi(Formerly known as Cheran Engineering Corporation)


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For more photos and information please visit my blog
http://tnstc.wordpress.com/2010/06/0...ai-hill-rider/

[dr_thapalathy]

KSRTC has got the Golden Peacock Eco-Innovation award from Govt of India for successfully implementing Ethanol blended diesel in over 1000 of its buses. this has reduced emission of toxic gases by 50% and ethanol is cheaper than diesel and increase in profits.

Also, the MD of KSRTC is Gaurav Gupta, IAS.
note that he is not a localite...he is from north and an IAS officer...so, no political bending.

for more previous awards, see the link below

http://ksrtc.in/Awards.html

[arun82]

I have a small question in my mind why TN govt is not thinking of having BRTS in various cities in TN. If we compare Guj and TN they are developing all the cities and towns in Gujarat. But here the growth is restrcited to Chennai and surrounding areas. I feel it is high time Govt plans for BRTS in all cities and Govt in TN. and it must be taken up with central govt funding and will help in equal development of all cities and reduce congestion to a great extent. Please share the names of towns and cities which badly requires an BRTS system in TN

[binaiks]

Originally Posted by dr_thapalathy

Mr Dhandabani, since the buses in POU-Palghat route is an inter-state, the buses need to pay tax to 2 state govts, ie extra tax. So, they collect it from people, by charging extra o ticket. This is nothing illegal.

One small clarification: State Government buses do not pay taxes twice. A bus run by TNSTC/SETC will pay road tax only to TN, not to Kerala. This is why there are interstate agreements between states. However, if one state operates buses over and above the number of buses allotted to it, they would have to pay taxes to the other state.

The agreement is based on total kilometres operated in the "foreign state" per week. That is, say for example, a TNSTC bus operates 10+10 kms daily to Kerala, the total weekly consumption is 20x7 = 140 kms. Two such buses would mean, a total consumption of 280 kms. Since, TN is consuming 280 kms, Kerala automatically wins an equal quota. Now, its upto Kerala to decide how it uses the permit. Like this, IIRC, both states have quota in the range of 2000kms.

The reason why Interstate buses charge more than their intra-state counterparts: According to inter-state permits, the corporation would fix an amicable fare chart for services. This is to ensure that one corporation is at an undue advantage over the other. (In case of Kerala and TN, TNSTC would be certainly at advantage due to lesser fares. However, to provide equal opportunity and a level playing field, both corporation charge more or less same fares.) This is one particular reason why TNSTC is very aggressive on Inter-state routes.