Mumbai | Worli-Haji Ali Sealink

[Bombay Boy]

Originally Posted by Sughosh

From everything BB has said on this thread I could only gather that, if we are to follow the letter of the law, this sea link should not be built .

However, seeing as one big breach (as per BB) already exists, I doubt Reliance is going to care about any ostensibly illegal construction that's willingly sanctioned by the GoM.

do you think someone will pay 1600 crores to buy an illegal property and spend another 2500 crores to extend it, without any guarantee that it will not be shut down/demolished/put in limbo on court orders?

reliance is smarter than that i would think

[IchimaruGin1]

Originally Posted by Bombay Boy

do you think someone will pay 1600 crores to buy an illegal property and spend another 2500 crores to extend it, without any guarantee that it will not be shut down/demolished/put in limbo on court orders?

reliance is smarter than that i would think

based on that logic i am guessing 50% of the city and its slums would be demolished.

[Bombay Boy]

apples and oranges

for reliance the question is would it be worth the risk. with current traffic levels and future projections it would be quite handy for them if they dont follow through with the deal. they will not be able to service the interest with the toll income, let alone the principal

[Sughosh]

Originally Posted by Bombay Boy

apples and oranges

for reliance the question is would it be worth the risk. with current traffic levels and future projections it would be quite handy for them if they dont follow through with the deal. they will not be able to service the interest with the toll income, let alone the principal

Why would all of this be breaking news to Reliance anyway? Wouldn't they have even entered into the bids being fully aware of these issues?

Or are you saying this is some massive cover-up that has recently been unearthed?

[Sughosh]

Vaise knowing Reliance they're probably quite capable of ensuring that if they do buy it out, no court ever comes anywhere near issuing an order against it

[parthochoudhury]

Originally Posted by Sughosh

Wow, Netaji Nagar type PAP scenario in Pedder Road ... that would be fun

"We have offered them 8 flats each of 220 sq ft in Bharat Nagar BKC, or Goregaon , or Nahur." said Ratnakar Gaikwad. "They have rejected all these options. We may have no alternative but to forcefully evict them".

If the same ratio is to be maintained, either MMRDA will have to buy flats for the likes of Lata Mangeshkar twice the size of the property she lives in right now, or have her forcibly evicted.....

Hmmmmmmmmmm......Is the MMRDA game?! Ofcourse, the blokes along Worli Sea Face are gonna crib about their view being spoilt....obv, they dont give a damn about the folks in Bandra/Mahim when they cribbed the same....I would love to see what happens when the spoilt brats in Malabar Hill have a tunnel dug under the houses.....that will one heckuva PIL coming up!!! Cant wait for it to happen!!!

Anyways, MMRDA promises tenders for HANPtSL by 2011 April....lets wait n watch!!!

[Jodhpur2]

last few pages make me feel as if the future is not bright for mumbai! someone post something positive to balance things out lol.

[bhargavsura]

Bharat Mata ki Jai!

[raghussc]

Source: TOI

So the deal is signed and Reliance shud finish it off in 42 months after fin-closure in Dec'10 ... so by 2014, construction should be over ...

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MUMBAI: Recommended way back in 1970, the Western Freeway sea link’s second part, Worli-Haji Ali Sea Link (WHSL), was finally put into execution mode by the state government on Monday evening.

The project, supposed to be ready in 42 months starting from December 2010, promises to cut down on the travel time between Bandra and Haji Ali from 60 minutes to 13 minutes as the proposed bridge will bypass 27 traffic signals in stretch between Bandra and Haji Ali.

Currently, over 48,000 vehicles use the Bandra Worli Sea link every day and experts feel that the figure will increase to 1.20 lakh per day after the Haji Ali part is commissioned.

The consortium of Reliance Sea Link One Private Ltd (RSLOPL) and Hyundai Engineering and Construction Pvt Ltd on Monday signed an agreement with state agency MSRDC to build the 3.4-km (7 km including connectors) link over the sea at a ceremony held at Hotel Trident in the evening.

"It will be a challenging task to build this bridge in just 42 months and we are going to achieve the target," said CEO of Reliance Infrastructure Lalit Jalan. Sonia Sethi, MD of MSRDC, assured to clear all approvals so that the construction could get over within the deadline without any hassles. "Though the entire Western Freeway sea link from Bandra to Nariman Point has already received environmental clearance, approvals for small changes in the design at Worli and Haji Ali are expected soon," said Sethi.

"We have already started the process in order to put men and machinery on the job. With the financial closure in December this year, we will start on the actual construction," said Jalan. The WHSL is expected to be thrown open to the public by June 2014.

[Bombay Boy]

lol! i guess i was wrong. my sources tell me reliance managed to get a clause in the contract that said all clearances are the responsibility of msrdc, which was not there earlier. i see there is no mention yet of reliance paying 1600 crores to take over the present link. i wonder when are they supposed to be doing that, since the msrdc is pretty desperate for that money

[Sughosh]

Heh..what I said.. Anilbhai koi lallu-panju nahin hai - he'll find ways to build the thing, make money off it, AND keep himself safe.

Who knows, he might even try to wangle a discount from MSRDC for the BWSL by squaring off HCC with an "offer they can't refuse"

[devendra1]

Originally Posted by Jodhpur2

last few pages make me feel as if the future is not bright for mumbai! someone post something positive to balance things out lol.

Here is the Good news -

This Article mentions that Envoironmental clearance is already there.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/6103883.cms

"Though the entire Western Freeway sea link from Bandra to Nariman Point has already received environmental clearance, approvals for small changes in the design at Worli and Haji Ali are expected soon, said Sethi. "

This means that the BWSL is legal and the upcomming links are also legal.

[IchimaruGin1]

well all this episode has taught me is never to trust BB's sources.


joking BB joking.



anyways 2014 seems allright in the grand scheme of things.


2025 western freeway too seems right based on the links apart from this to be built.

[Jodhpur2]

are we not calling him bobo anymore?

[shanware]

BoBo made a BooBoo

[IchimaruGin1]

oh yeah I forgot about that

hahahahahaha that still makes me laugh

[IchimaruGin1]

btw guys niknak has made a map of the western freeway etc.

I cant seem to find it.

[Bombay Boy]

Originally Posted by devendra1

Here is the Good news -

This Article mentions that Envoironmental clearance is already there.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/6103883.cms

"Though the entire Western Freeway sea link from Bandra to Nariman Point has already received environmental clearance, approvals for small changes in the design at Worli and Haji Ali are expected soon, said Sethi. "

This means that the BWSL is legal and the upcomming links are also legal.

lol! no it isnt. not the first time the indian media has no clue

2 links have environmental clearance

1. bwsl - which is from reclamation to worli point, i.e. worli fort (not worli sea face)
2. wfsl - which is from worli point to nariman point with 2 connectors only (haji ali, which is a different alignment to the one proposed now, and bhulabhai desai road). it is also all in the sea

besides this none of the links have been incorporated into the mmrda mumbai town plan, which is a pre-requisite before even starting construction. there are a host of other preconditions that have not been followed

at the appropriate time i will scan the relevant pages and put it up here. but i cant do that now

[Bombay Boy]

i must admit though that i am very surprised reliance signed the agreement, since they do know about these violations now. they must have put a host of new clauses in the agreement to safe-guard themselves, not to mention backing out would cause problems for their other infra bids with the GoM. also like i said there is no mention of them paying msrdc yet, so they may be waiting for the new developments which should happen soon (hopefully)

[Bombay Boy]

and any indian citizen can verify the given permissions by applying to the ministry of environment, msrdc and mmrda. the RTI act is a wonderful thing. might take you some time and lots of appeals though