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Old June 2nd, 2013, 12:28 AM   #941
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Doesn't Thalys have some plant to run trains all the way to Berlin?
Those plans could also be affected by the DB stepping out of Thalys.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 12:55 AM   #942
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I think Thalys is going to need some new rolling stock if they want to expand their network by that much. I've heard that some Dutch company has some high speed trains that they're likely not using anymore, perhaps Thalys can buy those?
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 10:19 AM   #943
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If it's really necessary to add new trains the easiest solution should be that the SNCF just transfers some more TGV Reseau sets to Thalys.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 03:06 PM   #944
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If it's really necessary to add new trains the easiest solution should be that the SNCF just transfers some more TGV Reseau sets to Thalys.
TGV Reseaux sets can't run in the Netherlands. Some can run in Belgium but they're quite busy already.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 04:27 PM   #945
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Thalys PBA sets are pretty much equivalent to TGV Réseau sets, technically. It should be possible to adapt some of those to run in the Netherlands. However, this will lead to shortages for French domestic services, so I don't see SNCF doing that.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 08:58 PM   #946
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Actually there are 24 HST services daily between Paris and Brussel. Brussel - Amsterdam does warrant a half hourly service. Barcelona - Madrid should also have a lot more trains, but Renfe is not that good at selling tickets....

However currently the rolling stock for a train every half hour over the HST isn't there...
There are currently 27 HST daily services between Barcelona and Madrid.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 12:24 PM   #947
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There are currently 27 HST daily services between Barcelona and Madrid.
Given the size of the cities involved that is not very impressive. I would expect at least two non stop and two limited stop services per hour.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 12:26 PM   #948
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Thalys PBA sets are pretty much equivalent to TGV Réseau sets, technically. It should be possible to adapt some of those to run in the Netherlands. However, this will lead to shortages for French domestic services, so I don't see SNCF doing that.
The TGV-R sets are now mostly used on Brussels - France intersector services. These trains are quite popular.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 12:26 PM   #949
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The newspapers are reporting that NS is going to give up on Fyra, too. CEO Bert Meerstadt has announced his resignation ("time to move on to new challenges," Meerstadt said), Timo Huges will be his replacement starting October 1st.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 02:54 PM   #950
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Apperently the Minister of Finance won't let the NS stop with the V250. First they have to research what the financial consequences of it.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 04:30 PM   #951
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Apperently the Minister of Finance won't let the NS stop with the V250. First they have to research what the financial consequences of it.
So it´s too early to close this thread?
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 05:10 PM   #952
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So it´s too early to close this thread?
There's still the Thalys that provides high speed rail in The Netherlands... so no closing this thread
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 07:46 PM   #953
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NS just confirmed that they are planning to forget about the V250 as well. Their decision still awaits approval of their sole shareholder, the ministry of Finance. NS states that it would take until at least 2018 for full entry into commercial service to be possible, "if the vendor would be state-of-the-art, which it isn't."
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 07:46 PM   #954
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A few minutes ago the dutch railways announced to also stop with the fyra.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 12:49 AM   #955
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A few minutes ago the dutch railways announced to also stop with the fyra.
I doubt that they quit Fyra, their very own high speed brand. I would rather expect NS to terminate contracts with Ansaldo-Breda.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 01:00 AM   #956
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The Fyra name and brand is owned solely by SNCB, according to the European brand register.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 01:02 AM   #957
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Isn't Fyra Swedish word for the number "four"?
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Old June 4th, 2013, 01:07 AM   #958
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Yup, Because of the Four Cities served or something... Amsterdam-Rotterdam-Antwerps-Brussels...

On a post in the Dutch section, something regarding Fyra was shown.

The National Fyra service Amsterdam-Breda was marketed as Fyra as well (with a Fyra Loco-train in the add and the service being named "fyra"), on the new ad the name Fyra is nowhere to be found!
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Old June 4th, 2013, 01:16 AM   #959
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Last Friday, the following advertisement appeared in Metro:

Amsterdam - Breda, 34 minutes closer. With Fyra, 2x/hour, for just € 2,30 extra

Today, the same ad appeared:


I'm guessing SNCB doesn't want the brand to be used anymore.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 01:23 AM   #960
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It will be hard for NS to keep the supplement charged if they are not going to use a separate brand.

They had unfortunately abandoned supplements for Schiphol-Amsterdam travel on domestic Fyra already. Now there will be pressure to drop supplements for all trips. Actually, all trips originating/terminating on Schiphol station should have a supplement charged to pay for additional tracks at the tunnel.
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