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Old December 28th, 2016, 11:19 PM   #1221
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Those trains look quite old too.
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Old December 29th, 2016, 03:22 AM   #1222
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Old December 29th, 2016, 04:44 AM   #1223
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Those trains look quite old too.
Those trains are from the times of the USSR (Ukraine have few new subway trains, at least in Kiev Metro, for what I could know by a little research in their thread), but they are not really old. They were made in the 80's, and they're quite efficient trains. I personally really like them.

Anyway, in many countries the old trains keep working. You can see them (refurbished) in Germany, or the old trams in Japan.
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Old December 29th, 2016, 10:04 PM   #1224
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Old December 30th, 2016, 12:08 AM   #1225
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Those trains are from the times of the USSR (Ukraine have few new subway trains, at least in Kiev Metro, for what I could know by a little research in their thread), but they are not really old. They were made in the 80's, and they're quite efficient trains. I personally really like them.

Anyway, in many countries the old trains keep working. You can see them (refurbished) in Germany, or the old trams in Japan.
That is actually a generalization. While most trains are indeed from the 70ies and 80ies (followed closely by 2010s!), it is really hard to see how old or new they actually are due to the (ex)Soviet factory lack of innovation – basically all metro trains in Kiev are of the type 81-717/714, whether it was built in 1978 or 2013. And the 81-717/714 itself has the same body as the E series metro which was developed already in 1959. As a result, you can't really distinguish the construction dates.





One of the trains is built in 1964 while the other in 2013. I won't tell you which is which.

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Old December 30th, 2016, 12:19 AM   #1226
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^ is the first one from 2013? Cheers.

I love old metro trains that still do a job btw, and old-looking ones too.
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Yes, the upper one is 2013

I do like the way they look and growing up in Eastern Europe I've grown up with the notion that THAT is the way that a metro should look But they also do look very outdated. The St. Petersburg new NeVa trains are a step up – they look modern and have an aluminum body.

Then again, even in New York a 1971 train doesn't look all that different from a 2016 train. It's basically just Western Europe that is obsessed with latest trend styling
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That is actually a generalization. While most trains are indeed from the 70ies and 80ies (followed closely by 2010s!), it is really hard to see how old or new they actually are due to the (ex)Soviet factory lack of innovation – basically all metro trains in Kiev are of the type 81-717/714, whether it was built in 1978 or 2013. And the 81-717/714 itself has the same body as the E series metro which was developed already in 1959. As a result, you can't really distinguish the construction dates.





One of the trains is built in 1964 while the other in 2013. I won't tell you which is which.

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My mistake, i thought all of the 81-717/714 series were from around the 80's, i didn't know they were actually a few from these times. I stand corrected.

Well, i saw some 'new' trains with that resemblance, but i believed they were refurbished trains from the 80's, as they actually exist in the Metro of Kiev or in the Metro in the capital of Georgia. They even used the same restyling.
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That is actually a generalization. While most trains are indeed from the 70ies and 80ies (followed closely by 2010s!), it is really hard to see how old or new they actually are due to the (ex)Soviet factory lack of innovation – basically all metro trains in Kiev are of the type 81-717/714, whether it was built in 1978 or 2013. And the 81-717/714 itself has the same body as the E series metro which was developed already in 1959. As a result, you can't really distinguish the construction dates.



One of the trains is built in 1964 while the other in 2013. I won't tell you which is which.

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Whoa!!! Check out that stature above the train. Now that's Socialist!
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Yes, the upper one is 2013

I do like the way they look and growing up in Eastern Europe I've grown up with the notion that THAT is the way that a metro should look But they also do look very outdated. The St. Petersburg new NeVa trains are a step up – they look modern and have an aluminum body.

Then again, even in New York a 1971 train doesn't look all that different from a 2016 train. It's basically just Western Europe that is obsessed with latest trend styling
Thanks.

Even in Western Europe there is variation, for example in Paris there might still be some of those half a century old metro trains in use. I like the ones in Marseille too (approaching four decades of age).
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Thank you for this post. We must remember to save soc architecture from devastation.
Here are some examples from my city, Warsaw :

Torwar Housing Estate :
(A bit old renovation)









Sady Żoliborskie Housing Estate :
Here the brick elevation was rebuilt after they insulate the walls.






Unfortunately there is loads of bad examples :
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Whoa!!! Check out that stature above the train. Now that's Socialist!
If you like that picture, please take a look at these:


DSC_0700 by Oleksandr Burlaka, on Flickr


DSC_0306 by Oleksandr Burlaka, on Flickr

By the way, I strongly suggest any real aficionado of socialist modernism to give a look at this guy's flickr account: it covers many of the classic buildings throughout the USSR (the Minister of Highway Construction and the Palace of Cerimonies in Tbilisi, the Sports and Concert Complex and the Cascade in Yerevan, etc.); also, since he is from Kiev, you get a very insightful take on this city (including pictures of many other classics: the Halls of Remembrance, the Institute of Information, the Salyut Hotel, the Physics department at the Taras Shevchenko University, etc.).

I also want to mention that he (Oleksandr Burlaka), Alex Bykov and Oleksiy Radynski were involved in the really interesting exhibition "Superstructure", presented at Kiev's Visual Culture Research Center during winter 2015, dealing with the utopian architectural works in Kiev (here's a link to the archdaily's article on the exhibition). By the way, now I'm reading this article (very interesting too) by Radynski on the events of Euromaidan.
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Šerefudin White Mosque, Visoko, Bosnia & Herzegovina (1979)
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