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Old August 1st, 2015, 03:26 PM   #201
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Well, the most interesting thing is how frequent ant what quality (delays e.t.c.) there are on a line. In that way I think it's good that Berlin has Metrobus v.s. bus and Metrotram v.s. tram. The "Metro*"-lines run more frequently.

(I admit that I haven't ever used a Metrobus line in Berlin. They seem to run mostly in ex West Berlin where the U-Bahn have good coverage. The MetroTram is another thing, in ex East Berlin the trams were and is a far more important part of the transportation network so if you have any reason to travel there you probably find yourself on a Metrotram sooner rather than later)
Rnet, Metrobus these terms are all made up to cover up the fact that public transport isn't as good as:
A: it once was.
B: local authorities do not have want to spend the money for real quality public transportation
C: the small improvements that were made do not compensate for the loss in either frequency, number of lines, low price(s) or loss in overall traveling comfort.
D: friends of political friends or parties need some extra pocket money.

In short: always A form of propaganda, that has (almost) nothing to do with improving public transport.
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Old August 1st, 2015, 05:49 PM   #202
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Rnet, Metrobus these terms are all made up to cover up the fact that public transport isn't as good as:
A: it once was.
B: local authorities do not have want to spend the money for real quality public transportation
C: the small improvements that were made do not compensate for the loss in either frequency, number of lines, low price(s) or loss in overall traveling comfort.
D: friends of political friends or parties need some extra pocket money.

In short: always A form of propaganda, that has (almost) nothing to do with improving public transport.
Well, Berlin is a bit away from Rotterdam but the tram service in rather central parts were crap before MetroTram. 20 minute headway and different lines calling at different platforms for the same destinations, without any real time displays. You had to guess (or have a pocket timetable) which platform would be the correct one, and when you got there you would just miss a tram for your destionation departing from another platform with intense car traffic and red lights between you and that platform...
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Old November 2nd, 2015, 10:16 PM   #204
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Avenio tram enters passenger service in Den Haag
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NETHERLANDS: The first Siemens Avenio tram for Den Haag entered passenger operation on November 2 on Route 2.

Test running has also started on Route 11, the next route to be operated by Avenios. They will eventually enter service on routes 1, 9, 15 and 17. In preparation for the 100% low-floor trams, the city is undertaking a programme of track renewal and platform replacement.

Operator HTM ordered 40 Avenio trams in 2011 and exercised an option for 20 more in 2013 at a cost of €2·58m each. The trams are being built in Siemens’ Wien factory and deliveries are due to be completed in 2016

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Old December 18th, 2015, 05:35 PM   #205
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More Bombardier trains for Randstadrail
Friday, December 18, 2015



ROTTERDAM Electric Tram (RET) has exercised a €30m option with Bombardier for six additional three-car Flexity Swift light metro trains as part of a project to increase capacity on Randstandrail Line E

Ridership on the line between The Hague Central and Slinge increased from around 10,000 passengers per day in 2006 to 39,000 per day in 2015, and RET says it expects the upward trend to continue

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Old December 18th, 2015, 10:05 PM   #206
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Meanwhile new trains for the Hoekselijn (yet to be converted from train to metro service) have already arrived and will be used for Line E.
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Old December 18th, 2015, 10:19 PM   #207
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When will the services Schiedam - Hoek van Holland become managed by RET?
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Old December 18th, 2015, 10:32 PM   #208
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After they add some and convert the stations and have connected it to the metro network. All should be finished by 2017 (a few months after the new trains for Line E have arrived).
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Old December 18th, 2015, 10:48 PM   #209
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After they add some and convert the stations and have connected it to the metro network. All should be finished by 2017 (a few months after the new trains for Line E have arrived).
I thought they were just going to take over the tracks from Pro Rail. Will it be operated as an automated line or like a tramway, or like a regular railway?

Will this change allow through trains from A/B/C lines to points further west using a similar arrangement of line E?
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Old December 18th, 2015, 11:28 PM   #210
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It will be operated like Line E is: former suburban railway converted to metro (light rail trains) use, with some gated level crossings. They may renew the tracks, but as far as new track construction is concerned there will only be two short sections added:

1. map Connecting the current Hoekselijn (upper left corner) with the metro tracks (southern tracks, stub end) at Schiedam Centrum.

2. pic Moving Hoek van Holland Strand station towards the beach, so passengers won't have to walk 1 km anymore.

Apart from that, (Maassluis) Steendijkpolder will be the only newly added station. The line will act as an extension of Line B. (versus current map)
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Rotterdam and Den Haag operating contracts renewed
12 Jul 2016





NETHERLANDS: Rotterdam and Den Haag transport authority MRDH has directly awarded incumbent RET a new contract to operate Rotterdam’s tram and metro networks, and has approved the award of a similar contract for HTM to continue to operate trams in Den Haag.

The Rotterdam contract will run from December 2016 until 2026 and has a value of €3bn. It includes a performance-based incentive regime, requires more passenger information to be provided in English and specifies that the current passenger satisfaction rating of 7·8 for tram services and 7·6 for the metro should both reach a minimum of 7·8. MRDH Director Marc Rosier said that negotiations had been extensive, and that the authority would be paying a fair price for a better quality of service

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Old November 1st, 2016, 02:47 PM   #213
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Old November 3rd, 2016, 01:44 AM   #214
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So, now Rotterdam and Hague has one common transport authority?

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrop...erdam_Den_Haag
"Vervoer

De Metropoolregio Rotterdam Den Haag is ook OV-autoriteit en verantwoordelijk voor de volgende concessies:[3]

Concessie Rail Haaglanden (Haagse tramnet inclusief Randstad rail 3 + 4 Zoetemeer)
Concessie Rail Rotterdam (Tram + metro Rotterdam, inclusief Randstadrail line E tot Den Haag)
Regionaal Busvervoer Haaglanden
Bus Den Haag stad
Bus Rotterdam en omstreken
busvervoer in Albrandswaard, Capelle aan den IJssel, Rotterdam, Schiedam, Vlaardingen, Barendrecht, Krimpen aan den IJssel, Lansingerland, Maassluis en Ridderkerk.
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Concessie Hoekse Lijn. NS Reizigers voert de treindienst in opdracht van de Vervoersautoriteit uit tot het moment van ombouw.
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How about revisiting my proposal to change this thread to be a common thread for both Rotterdam and Hague?
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Authority, yes. Executive transit companies and city councils, no.

So merging doesn't make sense in practice.
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Rotterdam light rail vehicle loan agreement signed
14 Dec 2016



NETHERLANDS: The European Investment Bank announced on December 14 that it had signed a €120m loan agreement with Rotterdam transport authority RET. The low-interest loan will be used towards the purchase of rolling stock and signalling equipment

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The rains between Gouda and Alphen a/d Rijn are also part of R-Net now, and operated by NS with Stadler Flirt EMU's



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R-net, Randstad-net. (Randstad is area encompassing Amsterdam, Utrecht, The Hague, Rotterdam. Basically where the western half of the country where half of the population lives). It's a brand for "high quality public transport". I have no idea exactly why we need it, but apparantly we do. R-net buses are not local buses but regional/express buses. They have wifi, are very frequent and and punctual. The plan was to also include all rail, like R'dam and A'dam metro and all tram systems. So The Hague is the first to use it on trams. Utrecht however doesn't seem to be participating. They have their own U-OV branding.
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urbanrail.net updated Rotterdam map with upcoming Line B extension to Hoek van Holland:
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/nl/rot/rotterdam.htm



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How would you rank Rotterdam's public transportation on a 0-10 scale?
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