ECR - Entertainment corridor - Projects Updates

[saysenthil]

Have any one of you visitied the Dolphin city ? I heard that the dolphins are no more.... But i am still noticing that building..... I searched for its website.
Got no clear info if it exists even today. Please do inform!!

In TTDC website (mentioned in the previous posts) I saw the name sea lion show. Wats that ? How is that? Where is that ?

I was just thinking for taking one of my friends (coming from Germany) to show around Chennai. I didnt get idea beyond Marina beach/Beasantnagar beach, DakshinaCitra, Valluvarkottam, ofcourse Mahabalipuram. Can some one tell some more places to spend good time?

[die4chennai]

Originally Posted by saysenthil

Have any one of you visitied the Dolphin city ? I heard that the dolphins are no more.... But i am still noticing that building..... I searched for its website.
Got no clear info if it exists even today. Please do inform!!

In TTDC website (mentioned in the previous posts) I saw the name sea lion show. Wats that ? How is that? Where is that ?

See lions show happen at dolphin city... Dolphins are dead due to poor maintenance. They can blame anything including Chennai's climate for that but ultimately they died coz of lack of proper facilities and improper diet. Same fate can happen to these see lions anytime sooner.

[die4chennai]

Originally Posted by saysenthil

I was just thinking for taking one of my friends (coming from Germany) to show around Chennai. I didnt get idea beyond Marina beach/Beasantnagar beach, DakshinaCitra, Valluvarkottam, ofcourse Mahabalipuram. Can some one tell some more places to spend good time?

Can add mudaliarkuppam or muttukadu adventure sports to that

[saysenthil]

Thanks die4chennai..... Good to know that still we have the sea lion show.....
But really bad to see that we havent made get strides in developing tourism around chennai....

Hope the thoughts of the members in this forum becomes true as soon as possible.
(Making Mahablipuram as the entertainment hub) integrated with variety of cultural activities.

[Arasu]

Originally Posted by die4chennai

See lions show happen at dolphin city... Dolphins are dead due to poor maintenance. They can blame anything including Chennai's climate for that but ultimately they died coz of lack of proper facilities and improper diet. Same fate can happen to these see lions anytime sooner.

I think the prerequisites for humans to care for animals is that majority of the people should live in a far better condition than the animals they are trying to take care. Otherwise, it would seem that they are not going to show interest in maintaining these animals by providing them the habitat, food and proper care they require.

I think this is what is happening to animals in aquariums and zoos. When large number of people live in pathetic conditions and struggle for meals, the caretakers do not care to take proper care of the animals.

I remember visiting an aquarium in Bombay a while ago. I was shocked at the condition of the aquarium that had some lobsters, sea horses and fishes. It is a far cry from aquariums in places such as Singapore, Chicago or Monteray, CA.

[Leo_r]

Boat ride in rain ...

The boat jetty which was four feet above water is now 18 inches below the water. The boats have been moved to the shore and some of them are tied to the 22 feet retaining wall. If rain continues for one more day, the boat house office might also get submerged..

High tide or any other reason? How can they put up a facility without knowing the recorded maximum water level?

http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/09/stor...0957760200.htm

[H Factor]

Any updates pls!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment_Corridor

http://www.malavoca.com.au/default.a...&NewsItem=True

[satishanu]

The Tamil Nadu Government is planning to come out with a support package to encourage hotel and tourism projects on the East Coast Road. Addressing an interactive meeting with the Asian American Hotel Owners Association organised by the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry, Mr S. Bakthavatchalam, Joint Director, Department of Tourism, Tamil Nadu, said that the State Government has identified the 160-km stretch of the East Coast Road from Chennai to Pondicherry as ideal for development of hospitality projects.


The State Government has commissioned a study, which is in its final stages, and will soon come out with a package of incentives and support for tourism projects planned along the ECR. This will help develop it as a "tourism expressway". The route is even now dotted with a number of theme parks, hospitality projects, apart from the ancient town of Mamallapuram known for its Pallava-age stone carvings. Tourism has grown consistently over the last four years in Tamil Nadu with an average annual growth of about 20 per cent. In 2007 it hit a peak of 29 per cent growth over the previous year. There is an estimated shortage of over 4,500 hotel rooms in the five-star category alone, he said. The annual arrivals of tourists in Tamil Nadu are estimated at about 64 million with the peak arrivals in December-January, he said.

Source: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...1051311301.htm

[ezhilan81]

Originally Posted by satishanu

The Tamil Nadu Government is planning to come out with a support package to encourage hotel and tourism projects on the East Coast Road. Addressing an interactive meeting with the Asian American Hotel Owners Association organised by the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry, Mr S. Bakthavatchalam, Joint Director, Department of Tourism, Tamil Nadu, said that the State Government has identified the 160-km stretch of the East Coast Road from Chennai to Pondicherry as ideal for development of hospitality projects.


The State Government has commissioned a study, which is in its final stages, and will soon come out with a package of incentives and support for tourism projects planned along the ECR. This will help develop it as a "tourism expressway". The route is even now dotted with a number of theme parks, hospitality projects, apart from the ancient town of Mamallapuram known for its Pallava-age stone carvings. Tourism has grown consistently over the last four years in Tamil Nadu with an average annual growth of about 20 per cent. In 2007 it hit a peak of 29 per cent growth over the previous year. There is an estimated shortage of over 4,500 hotel rooms in the five-star category alone, he said. The annual arrivals of tourists in Tamil Nadu are estimated at about 64 million with the peak arrivals in December-January, he said.

Source: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...1051311301.htm

A very late initiative. This road has the potential to become one hell of a tourism stretch...Build futuristic structures on this road..allow 5 star hotels and more resorts and build entertainment centres like theme parks, adventure sports etc. I think they need to come up with innovative ideas instead of just copying what's already there in other cities. Thats the only way to create a uniqueness. But first make the ECR a 6-8 lane road

[svh]

Originally Posted by ezhilan81

A very late initiative. This road has the potential to become one hell of a tourism stretch...Build futuristic structures on this road..allow 5 star hotels and more resorts and build entertainment centres like theme parks, adventure sports etc. I think they need to come up with innovative ideas instead of just copying what's already there in other cities. Thats the only way to create a uniqueness. But first make the ECR a 6-8 lane road

Any idea what is the fsi in this aquifer recharge area after Uthandi (ie. beyond CMA along ECR, > 500 mts from HTL) ? I believe plans are to bring more areas under CMA, in which case it becomes 0.8, I suppose. So how would such hotel plans pan out, with a low fsi of 0.8 and plot coverage of 40 % or less or are changes in the works ?

[kannan infratech]

Originally Posted by Leo_r

Boat ride in rain ...



High tide or any other reason? How can they put up a facility without knowing the recorded maximum water level?

http://www.hindu.com/2009/11/09/stor...0957760200.htm

For any project on sea shore or along the waterways, we should take the following inputs while designing:

High Tide Line
Groundwater level
Uplift of Groundwater
Soil Quality
Ecological Impact (before, during and after construction)

Many projects have not been started or abondoned in the middle or left to rot after completing construction jsut because the prior planning was faulty - resulting ib crores of money wasted.

[srikanthlogic]

Is there a thread to track the desalination plant coming up in Nenmeli ? I see the construction is in full swing. Pipes were put till Thiruvidenthai sometime back. Any idea about when is this going to provide water to Chennai?

[ChennaiIndian]

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chenn...y-makeover-881

July 14: Wind surfing and land sailing on the sandy shores of Mahabalipuram through land yachts are among the numerous adventurous sports activities launched by tourism minister N. Suresh Rajan near here on Wednesday.

The adventure sports arena established on the premises of the Tamil Nadu Tourism Development Corporation’s beach resort complex (BRC), Mahabalipuram, is aimed at attracting the youth and foreigners. Archery, balloon shooting, target shooting and net cricket are the other attractions and each comes for a price ranging from Rs 25 to Rs 100.

“Depending upon the response from people, we will train all those interested in taking up wind surfing as hobby,” a senior official from TTDC said and added a trained personnel would impart the lessons.

TTDC’s managing director A.C. Mohandoss presided. Manager N. Ravi and other officials participated. On the cards is to introduce more activities at the arena soon. Interestingly, two bullock carts made an appearance for the first time at the BRC to offer free rides to visitors. A French family with two teenaged girls and a group of visitors from Nigeria who visited the BRC were offered rides on the bullock carts. They were very thrilled over the experience. The tourism minister also was offered a ride around the woody locale of the massive BRC upon his arrival.

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[saysenthil]

Fantastic to note that sports like Wind surfing, water surfing are getting introduced. Hope TN (people) give a great reception to these adventure sports!!!

I am really excited in knowing this info!!!

[comet]

Attached image shows the location of the proposed Sports City on ECR , past Muttukadu near Thiruvidanthai.

The total area available for the govt is 3200 acres , all of which is the salt pan along Buckingham canal. The govt wants to carve out 1500 acres from this. Expect this to occupy most of the lands from Thiruvidanthai to Tiger Cave.

This Sports city is different from The Sports University being built on the Kelambakkam to Vandalur road next to the new IIT campus.

In this map try locating the proposed new Cricket Stadium by MCC on OMR

How will this affect the realty developments in this area ?

1. Overall this is a positive move. It is estimated that Chennai has only about 11,500 acres of free hold land available valued at $45 billion . To put that in perspective , the net worth of Mukesh ambani is $28 billion and Vijay Mallya is $ 1.2 billion.

2. Of this 11,500 acres most are already built up and will come for redevelopment at a very small trickle. The largest private developments within our city are the Hiranandani projects ( 120 acres on OMR , 500 acres at Oragadam)

3. So a sudden release of 1500 acres of govt revenue land (san acquisition) is good news, It will give a boost to the Sports industry, related infrastructure and will make Chennai more attractive to investors.

4. Dy CM, Mr Stalin has promised a golf course among other things. If the master-planning incorporates the Buckingham canal , we may have a superb setting for golf.

5. It must be noted that most of the area is BELOW sea level - that is the reason salt water flows into the salt pans. Future project engineers will no doubt have to reckon with this and the high soil salinity.

6. Though there is substantial bird life on these salt pans, the environmental impact can be alleviated by leaving large water bodies intact for the avian life. Buckingham canal is designated as a CRZII zone - requiring central govt nod to access the land for development.

7. The masterplan should integrate the proposed ECR Chennai to Pondy railway if the railhead moves from Perungudi. If however the rail moves from Chingelpet to Mahabs, this study would not be required. however the govt could leave a rail corridor along the canal for future Phases of the Chennai Metro.

8. A large sporting event can generate easily a surge of traffic , upto 5000 unidirectional vehicles per hour. The ECR and OMR feeder roads should be suitably widened.

9. The ECR datum level at Chinna Nemelli is 43 feet above sea level and the proposed sports city. The ECR can be thus connected by elevated exit & entry routs to the proposed city.

10. Around croc bank on the seaward side few new resorts such as the Classic Resort & one by the Park Sheraton Goyals are coming up. These developments stand to gain. It must be noted that almost the entire stretch of sea side land opposite to this Sports City falls under the category of "Trust Lands" - belonging to ancient land holding temple trusts like the "Alavandar" trust.

11. It is thus an estimate that no more than 250 acres of free hold land exists between Thiruvidantai & Mahabs. Realtors can expect the price of land in this area , already at Rs 10 lacs to Rs 20 lacs to go sky high.

12. On the OMR side , the SIDCO industrial estate which houses Pharma companies with a history of Chemical pollution have to reined in.

13. Former Chief Minister & ADMK Supremo Selvi Jayalalithaa's sylvan surroundings around her Payyanur Bungalow are sure to be impacted by the vibrant city proposed by the present govt. In fact MCC proposes world's largest cricketing stadia just minutes drive away from the above mentioned residence.

14. This Sports City announcement may take 7 to 10 years to see the first Phase development actualized. However in Realty news sells better than reality. So expect builders to announce slew of projects on either side of the development.

15. For readers in the know, let me remind you that this Sports City is different from the Sports University which is proposed on the Kelambakkam to Vandalur road next to IIT Chennai's new 100 acre site.

[comet]

Originally Posted by svh

Any idea what is the fsi in this aquifer recharge area after Uthandi (ie. beyond CMA along ECR, > 500 mts from HTL) ? I believe plans are to bring more areas under CMA, in which case it becomes 0.8, I suppose. So how would such hotel plans pan out, with a low fsi of 0.8 and plot coverage of 40 % or less or are changes in the works ?

What the future hold :

1. All buildings upto Kottivakkam will be offered amnesty after payment of regularisation fee provided their built-up FSI is less than 1.5 by 2011.

2. All buildings within 500 M CRZ beyond this upto Muttukaadu lake will receive a show cause notice, enquiring why their structures should not be demolished. Those in the approved MMDA layouts ( prior to 1992) may pray for exception. Others may present their Panchayat & other nativity certificates. They will be offered an amnesty after collecting an infrastructure betterment charge of Rs 300 per sft as long as their built up is less than 1.5 fsi and building is less than 2 storey ( stilt parking not counted).

3. These will apply even to buildings right on the beach, as long as they are on Patta land.

4. By 2013 CMDA will allow multistorey buildings of upto 1.5 fsi beyond 200 m limit and two storey buildings of upto 1.5 fsi within 200 m limit.

5. The Tahsildars all along ECR have been requested NOT to issue patta ( even patta transfers) for any land in any unapproved layouts unless and until the promoter hands over the common areas including roads by gift deed to the panchayat.

6. By 2015, by which time the Total Station land survey and land ownership digitisation will be over - All land areas along the coast in the MAP area ( Marakkanam , Arakkonam, Pulicat greater Chennai region) will be allowed coastal development.

To answer your specific query, you should plan your structural foundation to take a 1.5 fsi built up area and apply now for the proposed 0.8 fsi. Your hotel will receive approval provided you can get the environmental clearance. For a hotel the 40% coverage mandate will not apply if you get the enviro clearance.

If you are building a "guest house" and the patta is in your name , the local panchayat will overlook the 0.8 fsi + 40% cover rule and will allow a 1.5 fsi building. You must however be aware, that no Panchayat has the authority to approve of a building larger than 850 sft The Panchayat Raj was granted powers to approve 850 sft "village houses" on a "manai patta land" or a 850 sft village house on agri land of 1 acre.

Or you can do like what the folks in the above picture did

[ramvaradan]

Originally Posted by comet

1. All buildings upto Kottivakkam will be offered amnesty after payment of regularisation fee provided their built-up FSI is less than 1.5 by 2011.

2. All buildings within 500 M CRZ beyond this upto Muttukaadu lake will receive a show cause notice, enquiring why their structures should not be demolished. Those in the approved MMDA layouts ( prior to 1992) may pray for exception. Others may present their Panchayat & other nativity certificates. They will be offered an amnesty after collecting an infrastructure betterment charge of Rs 300 per sft as long as their built up is less than 1.5 fsi and building is less than 2 storey ( stilt parking not counted).

3. These will apply even to buildings right on the beach, as long as they are on Patta land.

4. By 2013 CMDA will allow multistorey buildings of upto 1.5 fsi beyond 200 m limit and two storey buildings of upto 1.5 fsi within 200 m limit.

5. The Tahsildars all along ECR have been requested NOT to issue patta ( even patta transfers) for any land in any unapproved layouts unless and until the promoter hands over the common areas including roads by gift deed to the panchayat.

6. By 2015, by which time the Total Station land survey and land ownership digitisation will be over - All land areas along the coast in the MAP area ( Marakkanam , Arakkonam, Pulicat greater Chennai region) will be allowed coastal development.

To answer your specific query, you should plan your structural foundation to take a 1.5 fsi built up area and apply now for the proposed 0.8 fsi. Your hotel will receive approval provided you can get the environmental clearance. For a hotel the 40% coverage mandate will not apply if you get the enviro clearance.

If you are building a "guest house" and the patta is in your name , the local panchayat will overlook the 0.8 fsi + 40% cover rule and will allow a 1.5 fsi building. You must however be aware, that no Panchayat has the authority to approve of a building larger than 850 sft The Panchayat Raj was granted powers to approve 850 sft "village houses" on a "manai patta land" or a 850 sft village house on agri land of 1 acre.

Or you can do like what the folks in the above picture did

Comet, a lots of information compiled .. before I ask you a few questions, can I know what your sources are? How are you able to assert all these without a quote from any news agency? Are you the insider! ?

[comet]

Originally Posted by ramvaradan

Comet, a lots of information compiled .. before I ask you a few questions, can I know what your sources are? How are you able to assert all these without a quote from any news agency? Are you the insider! ?

If I were an insider, could I ever accept it ;
And if a charlatan would I admit it ?

[ramvaradan]

Originally Posted by comet

If I were an insider, could I ever accept it ;
And if a charlatan would I admit it ?

I am not accusing you of anything. But you're evasive

[kannan infratech]

The CRZ rules - all are of recent origin.

As per the CMDA /DTCP rules, if there is a road existing between the sea HTL and the proposed development, CRZ rule does not apply. Besant Nagar and Kapaleeswarar Nagar on ECR were approved layouts.

GRT Temple Bay is actually the renovated Hotel Tamilnadu, which has been existing at the site for many decades. GRT leased the hotel from TTDC.

But many other developments along ECR do not have the full clearance and many have only temporary clearances.

Now a days, DTCP and CMDA are very strict esp in and around Chennai. Many sea side developments get only the local panchayat approvals and build them.