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They once planned on a stadium there but soil testing revealed that the area would need super deep pilings to be safe and that ended up being so potentially expensive that the idea was dropped. The issue with Hunters Point is that it also promises to be super expensive with all the environmental cleanup that would need to happen.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.39...944,-121.97225 It's just north of the Great America Theme Park. It's been marked out on Wikimapia: http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=37.395...ny=0.3&m=b&v=8 |
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Did you actually look at the cost of the stadium? |
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You'd be shocked how much the cost rises when you have to buy land then pay taxes on the building, pay the workers, transport and build in California. California is one of the worst states to build in. Cowboys Stadium would have cost hundreds of millions more had they tried to build it here.
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Than they should say "a cladding etc would be too expensive"
Instead of more open fell etc
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Yes On J Town Meeting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DohwKTYB5g ![]() http://www.santaclarastadiumfacts.com Last edited by schlaflin; May 21st, 2010 at 10:03 PM. |
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Santa Clara council OKs 49ers stadium hotel tax, report for Yahoo campus
By Lisa Fernandez lfernandez@mercurynews.com Posted: 05/12/2010 09:49:49 AM PDT The Santa Clara City Council voted yes on two crucial developments Tuesday night, giving the nod to a hotel tax if a proposed 49ers stadium is built and to the development of a massive new Yahoo complex. In a 5-2 vote, the council agreed to create a tax district of eight hotels where guests would pay an additional 2 percent tax on the cost of the room, with the extra money going to help pay for the 68,500-seat stadium. That's on top of the current transient occupancy tax of 9.5 percent already levied on guests of any hotel in the city. Council members Will Kennedy and Jamie McLeod voted no. They have been vocal about their concerns regarding public funding going to pay for a new $937 million stadium. Economic study reports show the tax would likely generate $35 million, which would go toward the stadium. An additional $79 million of public contributions are earmarked for the project. The team and the National Football League say they are putting in about $493 million, and the Santa Clara Stadium Authority is putting in about $330 million. The hotel tax increase would only take effect after the stadium is built and would not be created if Santa Clarans vote down the stadium measure June 8. The eight hotels in the district are closest to where the new stadium would be built, on a parking lot near the Great America theme park. They "are expected to benefit significantly from the proposed football stadium, primarily from home game weekend Advertisement bookings in fall and winter, which is historically the slowest booking period for hotels located in a business district," according to economic findings from the city and the 49ers. The hotels are Plaza Suites, Embassy Suites, Santa Clara Biltmore, Avatar, Santa Clara Marriott, Santa Clara Hilton, Hyatt Regency Santa Clara and Hotel Sierra. These hotels have 2,600 of the 3,800 hotel rooms, or 68 percent, in the city. Also Tuesday, the hotel owners unanimously voted to support the new tax. They each voted per acre of land owned. Coincidentally, there are 49 acres. In a separate matter, the council voted 7-0 to certify the environmental impact report and approve a development agreement for a 3-million-square-foot Yahoo campus, which would be the city's largest development ever. Plans to break ground on the project, and consolidate many of the smaller, leased Yahoo offices in Santa Clara, have not yet been announced. Looks like the Niners are finally getting a new stadium. |
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I'm still leery of the Authority money heading into this, but the two bay-area teams have real dumps for homes. So long as the taxpayers get their money back, I'm all for seeing the Niners (and the Raiders, too, eventually) getting a new home. Especially if they still suck on the field!!!
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Great news!
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Not a fan of the move.
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Me either, even as an outsider. Though I guess I prefer it to them moving to L.A.It will be werid that most in the north bay and from San Fran will be in closer proximity to their Bay neighbor Oakland Raiders then the team that will display the city name off in Santa Clara.
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Yeah, but the Raiders have......shall we say a niche fan base. And the vast majority of Niners fans, myself included, live way far away from San Fran anyways.
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looks so awesome!
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Mayor Newsom of SF has now explained that the 49ers are going to win the vote in Santa Clara but that it has no meaning since the stadium will never be built because of their inability to get financing. In a year or two the 49ers will crawl back to SF and beg to be allowed to play, along with the Raiders, in the fully-funded, fully-permitted Hunter's Point Stadium, which Newsom has planned and developed.
On the slim chance that he is not 100% correct, it really is time to face the reality that the new demographic in SF are not huge sports supporters and as a result the fan base has move to East Bay and South Bay. The Santa Clara Stadium has an excellent, central location and really outstanding train and light-rail connection, which Candlestick and Hunter's Point are lacking. SF seems well advised to focus on residential and high-tech in the proposed areas. Moreover, Santa Clara negotiated the deal so well that the SC electorate is apparently going to pass it quite easily, which is surprising in a mid-sized suburb with no history of sports fanaticism (except maybe swimming and diving). Incidentally, the proposed stadium in downtown SJ for the Athletics is also shown leading by large numbers. That vote is likely to be in November. |
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Is it basically over squabbling over how much the city will chip in? Do the 49ers want full revenue stream control over the facility when the 49ers play?
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The 49ers considered SF for some time but finally became committed to Santa Clara with LA as the fall-back when no progress was made in SF. They have been putting millions into the Santa Clara vote.
It appears that Newsom has no real plan and is trying to make a political happy face (Hunter’s Point has zero transit, road issues and questions re pollution and local crime). Santa Clara has VTA rail (connecting South Bay); and Amtrak from East Bay, Sacto and Modesto; all stop right at the stadium. There is also Caltrain to the whole Peninsula but this requires a change of trains. But the main point is that the 49er offices have been in Santa Clara for years and now the bulk of their fans are in the South Bay. SF is not where the fans or corporate sponsors are any more. |
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