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Old July 24th, 2009, 12:45 AM   #61
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what would your alternative arrangement for organisation and collaboration be vaast?
Well, nationalism that is not ethno-linguistic, is an improvement, i.e. the idea of a United States of America, in which all people are equally American, no matter their ethnic or religious background. Plenty of states in the world today adhere to this idea, (if only in name). And most of those states have minorities of people who see that state in ethno-linguistic or religious terms - i.e. the KKK in America.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 12:47 AM   #62
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You made buddha sad

On a more serious note, USA doesn't have the burden of history like Europe.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 12:54 AM   #63
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South-East Scotland is far more Germanic than any part of England (save Cornwall, more of an incorporated Celtic Nation than a county) is Celtic. Of course the Isle of Man is Celtic, (with a substantial Germanic Heritage from its Norse History) but it is no more a part of England than it is a part of Scotland.

Its a shame, our cause is common the break up of the United Kingdom, but your utter Anglophobia and shameful racism stops you from seeing this.
Excellent! You took the bait! I just wanted to get you here to tell you that I think you're a cunt
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Old July 24th, 2009, 12:57 AM   #64
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There is nothing Celtic about the north of England. Scandinavian maybe but mostly a mixture of immigrants from all parts of Britain and Ireland.
I was more talking about identity over race, but all the same, I was joking!
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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:00 AM   #65
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Not naturally and your Lions are Persian Lions.The only lions to roam Europa.
There are no wild lions in Persia any more. The last remaining population of Asiatic lions is in India. Not that it makes any difference, as almost all of the lions in our safari parks and zoos are African lions.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:03 AM   #66
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How will Scotland pay for its public services without England bailing it out?
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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:04 AM   #67
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If you're talking race then the North of England is more "celtic", whatever the fuck that means. Culturally it's a shit lot of stuff in those terms. Personally I'd say upland North Atlantic.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:08 AM   #68
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How will Scotland pay for its public services without England bailing it out?
If you take away the chocolate, will the children still be fat?
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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:56 AM   #69
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More like if you want to get a console you have to get a paper round.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:59 AM   #70
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I don't think this was the kind of thread Alfa had in mind when he trollerised it
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Old July 24th, 2009, 02:07 AM   #71
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More like if you want to get a console you have to get a paper round.
Hate to throw this out there, but considering how wealthy Norway is compared to almost all other countries in the world, and Scotland's oil was deliberately hushed up in the 70s, we are ALL paying for the greed of a few tyrants backed by Westminster.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 10:28 AM   #72
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There is nothing Celtic about the north of England. Scandinavian maybe but mostly a mixture of immigrants from all parts of Britain and Ireland.
My thoughts exactly!! Have people not heard of the Danelaw? People east of the Pennines are generally of Danish origin.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:04 PM   #73
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Scotland's oil was deliberately hushed up in the 70s
A Nat myth i'm afraid. It was revealed in parliament and is recorded in Hansard for all to see.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:08 PM   #74
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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:14 PM   #75
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No Celts in Yorkshire! It's the Kingdom of Jorvik god damn it!! Yorkshire should have a regional parliament (we should have got the vote, not the NE – it would probably have passed here – Yorkshire nationalists and all)!

I watched a political documentary on an independent Scotland recently. Anyway, the break up of the union would have a more negative effect on Scotland more than it would England. Just like with the break up of the USSR, Russia took its place on the UN Security Council, as would England replacing Britain, while Scotland would end up placed between Saudi Arabia and Senegal. The military would be transferred to England, as would the nuclear deterrent and all overseas dependents.

Although I’m not Scottish, I think that Scotland as it is now, with a devolved parliament and still part of the union is the best mix.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:25 PM   #76
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No Celts in Yorkshire! It's the Kingdom of Jorvik god damn it!! Yorkshire should have a regional parliament (we should have got the vote, not the NE – it would probably have passed here – Yorkshire nationalists and all)!
Actually this may surprise you but a member of my family manuactures flags and sells them for a living. By far the biggest market for St George flags is Yorkies!
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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:34 PM   #77
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Actually this may surprise you but a member of my family manuactures flags and sells them for a living. By far the biggest market for St George flags is Yorkies!
That's because they're stashing and selling them on e-bay to southerners for a tidy profit. The yorkies don't miss a trick you know.

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Old July 24th, 2009, 01:35 PM   #78
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That's because they're stashing and selling them on e-bay to southerners for a tidy profit. The yorkies don't miss a trick you know.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 04:03 PM   #79
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Exactly!

The only flag I own is this one.

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Old July 24th, 2009, 06:19 PM   #80
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A Nat myth i'm afraid. It was revealed in parliament and is recorded in Hansard for all to see.
Wesminster lies I'm afraid, why are people not aware of this? I'll try find that government paper after dinner.
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