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Old December 9th, 2009, 05:02 PM   #101
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Agents to market former Liverpool Odeon

Dec 9 2009 Liverpool Daily Post

THE former Odeon cinema, in London Road, in Liverpool city centre, is being marketed for sale by property agents.

Knight Frank has been appointed by development company, Parkmoor, to dispose of the building, which dates back to 1934.

The site is close to Lime Street Station and would lend itself to a variety of uses including hotel, student accommodation, office or even a multi-storey car park.

Paul Kelly, at Knight Frank Liverpool, said: “The Lime Street Station area of Liverpool is of great interest at the moment, with the proposed £35m redevelopment project, Lime Street Gateway, now under way.

“The site has fantastic development potential and could act as a catalyst for wider development in the area.”
Article continues here - http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...2534-25351368/

...or even a multi-storey car park!

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Old January 20th, 2010, 10:05 PM   #102
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Application Number - 09F/2640
Site Address - Land at the junction off Seymour Street and St Vincent Street Liverpool L3
Proposal - To erect a 4, 5 & 7 storey development comprising bedrooms in 46 no self contained units of accommodation on upper floors and A1, A3 and B1 units at ground floor level with 5 no. car parking spaces, cycle spaces and storage at basement level
Applicant - Edward Simmons LLP AS LPA Recievers
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Old January 21st, 2010, 12:43 AM   #103
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I imagine that will look terrible, being covered in a load of terracotta cladding. Still anything around that area is welcome.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 12:46 AM   #104
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Also, bear in mind that the applicant is Edward Simmons LLP AS LPA Receivers.

I guess this means it is just the receivers spending some money to get planning permission, increase the land value and sell it on.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 01:34 AM   #105
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That's a shocker
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Old January 21st, 2010, 12:25 PM   #106
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Hopefully it will be grist to the planning department's mill - given the huge amount of development opportunities that are going to arise in the area between London Road and Brownlow hill from now onwards and consequently the need for joined up thinking about how this location should relate to the wider downtown area.

Anyone holding their breath?
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Old January 21st, 2010, 12:30 PM   #107
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Is that to go in the middle of the triangle of land shown here?



That land needs something, but that's not it!

Would be interesting to see an ariel plan as I'd imagine it'd look quite interesting from above given the shape of the site.

The trouble with the area is that the standard of new architecture is gerenally so poor that this sort of thing could just get through.

However if it is where I think it is then the row of decent terraces running up Seymour Street might force the planners to think more carefully about what they allow to be built opposite.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 12:48 PM   #108
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Is that to go in the middle of the triangle of land shown here?
Yep, that's the one. This isn't an aerial image as such, but it shows the proposed floor plan of the second floor, so gives an idea of how the site will be used. As you can see the building will meet the pavement on all sides, but will be 'hollow' to allow for a central courtyard.


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Old January 21st, 2010, 12:58 PM   #109
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That isnt as bad. I don't mind the mini-tower, but its the swathes of cheap red render that I don't want to see. All it would take fro me to think it looks better would be for the render to be grey. terracotta render looks awful.

Even the cladding on the courtyard looks better.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 01:01 PM   #110
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Cheers Chris! Makes much more sense now. I actually quite like the front of the building, looks relatively graceful and has a classic New York feel to it and is about the right height.. The side elavation is nothing to write home about though, but if the right materials were used I think this could just work.

I like the courtyard aspect and the fact that it creates a new streetscape long St Vincent Street. I also like the idea of having more street level shop fronts to increase pedestrian activity in the area.

If this did get built, and they addressed the vacant land south of Lord Nelson Street then it could really inject some much needed life and vibrance back into the area, especially with the new serviced apartment block being finished on Back Bridport Street.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 01:04 PM   #111
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That isnt as bad. I don't mind the mini-tower, but its the swathes of cheap red render that I don't want to see. All it would take fro me to think it looks better would be for the render to be grey. terracotta render looks awful.

Even the cladding on the courtyard looks better.
I agree about the improvement by using better cladding, in this photo you can see how the cream render used on the building to the left (and now also on the building to the right) is used to great effect, looking modern and classic at the same time. (The photo also gives a good impression of where the new builiding would sit)

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Old January 21st, 2010, 01:34 PM   #112
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Personally I don't think its half bad, I'd like to know exactly what the materials are but with what its got it will do a hell of a lot for the area, making itself felt on the London Road junction, with the Seymour Street section of an appropriate height (similar height as the terrace opposite, I know we always wan't bigger, but equal isn't half bad). The active Seymour Street frontage will show people the extremely important opportunity which that street has to link back into Brownlow Hill, this and the John Moores building at the other end are starting to form that link.
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I'm still sad that art deco styled pub, the Swan, had to bite it.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 01:59 PM   #114
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The good news 9relatively speaking) is that it seems the building doesnt use panelling. It is brick. Hopefully teh use of lighter brick will soften the impact of the red stuff.
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I'm still sad that art deco styled pub, the Swan, had to bite it.
That was an evil place. I remember as a student getting caught up in a massive kick off THERE. All the local "gangsters" used to meet there and do coke off the tables. The landlord couldnt do anything about it as they used to threaten him with violence if he dared call the fuzz or try to chuck em out.

One day he did try to get some guy out and they all went at him with bats.

Nasty. Glad it's closed.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 02:44 PM   #116
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i like how the main building at the tip will help create a kind of circus look to the junction with london road, creating a series of feature buildings that front each junction, with the car parts building being the only part left to redevlop
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Old January 21st, 2010, 02:51 PM   #117
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That was an evil place. I remember as a student getting caught up in a massive kick off THERE. All the local "gangsters" used to meet there and do coke off the tables. The landlord couldnt do anything about it as they used to threaten him with violence if he dared call the fuzz or try to chuck em out.

One day he did try to get some guy out and they all went at him with bats.

Nasty. Glad it's closed.
Yes, it was evidently past its best as a business (and I'll admit I didn't ever go into the place when I've been in most pubs in town over the years). However, the building had something. It would have been better if its licence had been removed and a new ownership taken over. Horrible word, but something of the "gastropub" treatment could have helped.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 04:47 PM   #118
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I'm more bothered about the cheap looking grey plastic cladding than the red brick sections

Apart from that, I think the massing of this building is ok and like the layout with it fronting the road on all sides & having a courtyard. The rounded, taller element is the best part of the building and should provide a bit of a mini landmark on London Rd.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 05:19 PM   #119
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I do like the triangular tower element; the way it will loom up over you as you approach. It'll also bring more people into that area - that crossroads will develop into a good little hub.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 05:30 PM   #120
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The tower element does improve it and adds a sorely needed focal point, but it won't be troubling the Stirling Prize judges.
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