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Old July 28th, 2009, 06:46 PM   #1
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DUBLIN: Tara Street Station - 60m - Proposed

Some news on this scheme.






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CIE aims high with €100m station plan


Tuesday July 28 2009

CIE plans to build a €100m office block....

This morning, An Bord Pleanala will open a public hearing into plans by the company to redevelop one of the country's busiest transport centres, which would see a 14-storey office block built above the tracks on a 0.3 acre site.

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And CIE has insisted it was "confident" the development would go ahead, despite the current economic difficulties.

Some 10 million passengers go through the station every year, and further growth is expected as Transport 21 projects, including the underground DART, come on stream.

The 12-metre tall concourse area will cater for up to 14,500 passengers per hour at peak commuter times.

To fund the development of the station, a landmark office development will also be included over the station, with an office space of 13,000sq m, which sees the overall height of the development total 60.8 metres.

The scheme will be developed on a phased basis to permit the station to remain open during construction.

- Paul Melia

www.independent.ie


Further information www.tarastreetstation.ie

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Transportation systems are the life-giving arteries of any city. They should be efficient and generously designed and relate directly to the land uses which they are there to serve.

This website contains information detailing how the redevelopment of Tara Street Station can contribute positively to the enhancement of transportation and land use relationships in Dublin as well as providing a landmark building appropriate for this City centre transport node.

The Tara Street Station site is situated in a prime pivotal location at the junction of the traditional City core and the Docklands area to the east at the turn of the river Liffey where it is crossed by the loopline bridge. A greatly improved Tara Street Station will serve both the old City to the west and the emerging City to the East.

This must be being fast tracked as an infrastructural investment through the planning process. Ive no complaints about it. It looks good, it's the right scale for the area (it should'nt really detract from the Customs House in a visual sense) and crucially the station is getting it's long awaited redevelopment.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 10:45 PM   #2
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Well done Odlum! Finally some decent renderings. There are dozens of drawings and renderings on that link.
I`m posting a couple of these interesting drawings, that show that, besides earning a few well deserved Euros by developing an otherwise desolate site by Irelands busiest station, it will improve the station facilities no end. Just look athat entrance hall in plan and cross section and it wont cost IE a penny (sorry Cent). Note also the overall platform roof and of course the preserved Kennedys Pub.
Finally Tara street station will look like a city station and not just a back yard.
I hope the project materialises.

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Old July 29th, 2009, 04:00 PM   #3
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To fund the development of the station, a landmark office development will also be included over the station, with an office space of 13,000sq m, which sees the overall height of the development total 60.8 metres.
The magic number.

Looks great, and the station really needs it.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 05:31 PM   #4
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Very glad they're keeping Kennedy's pub. An institution.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 08:41 PM   #5
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Why does everything end up being 60 metres?
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Old July 30th, 2009, 05:45 PM   #6
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The usual discussions have started.
It does not seem logical that an office development subsidising a DART station, should have to pay a levy to Metro North

Wednesday, 29 July 2009

Council objects to Tara Street office 'slab' above station
DUBLIN CITY Council is opposing plans by Iarnród Éireann for a €100 million redevelopment of Tara Street station in Dublin, including the construction of a 15-storey office block on the site.

The two State bodies are also at loggerheads over the payment of development contributions and a levy to fund the Metro North in the event of planning permission being granted.

An Bord Pleanála yesterday began an oral hearing into Iarnród Éireann’s plans to redevelop the Dart and mainline station, the second-busiest in the country.

The semi-State aims to fund the new station through the development of the office block by seeking development partners if it obtains planning permission.

The development includes a glazed three-storey concourse and 10 storeys of office accommodation employing a “grain of rice” or “ship-shape” motif. Iarnród Éireann says the design by Canadian architects Adamson Associates will provide a “dramatic arrival point” for travellers to Dublin.

“The concourse will be a place of light, bustle and activity, an interchange point which looks towards the historic core of Dublin and the Liffey quays to the west, yet which is itself visible in all of its activities from the adjacent streets and from the wider city,” according to Iarnród Éireann.

However, the council, in its observation to the board, has likened the proposed tower to “a large slab form” sitting poorly in the skyline. While not opposed to development on the site, it says the current proposal is not capable of being amended and should be rejected. The proposed development will reach 60.8 metres into the Dublin skyline, slightly higher than Liberty Hall and almost twice the height of the Custom House. Iarnród Éireann told the hearing, chaired by inspector Karla McBride, that the loss of any floors from the office tower would significantly reduce its commercial viability.

A 10-year planning permission is being sought as construction is likely to take longer than the normal five years allowed.

The Department of the Environment has also expressed concern about the proposed development and has called for the provision of a nesting platform for peregrine falcons as part of any planning permission.

The development envisages the demolition of Tara House and other buildings but Kennedy’s pub, a four-storey protected structure on George’s Quay, will survive.

Iarnród Éireann called on the board not to impose levies on the development to fund Metro North and to reduce the normal development contributions due to Dublin City Council as part of planning permission.

Tim Richards, a surveyor with CIÉ, said the imposition of a levy to fund Metro North, as sought by the Railway Procurement Agency and the council, was inappropriate because it was not a pure office development. The imposition of a levy, estimated at almost €400,000, would place an “undue burden” on the development.

Jennifer Noctor of the Railway Procurement Agency said the levy should be imposed as the development was within the prescribed area near the new Metro line, which would benefit the occupants of the commercial and retail units.

Mr Richards also argued that development contributions due to the council should not be imposed in relation to the transport components of the plan.

Tom Devoy of Iarnród Éireann said the Tara Street station was heavily congested at peak times and would not be able to cope with expected increases in passenger numbers in the future. The new station has been designed to cater for 14,500 passengers an hour, compared to the current morning peak of 6,000 passengers. Mr Devoy said the new design would make the station a far safer environment for passengers as well as providing better shelter for passengers on platforms.

However, Iarnród Éireann does not intend to provide any toilets or bicycle parking in the station because of the “confined” nature of the site. Ms McBride said it wasn’t logical to expect cyclists to park their bikes at other stations if travelling from Tara Street.

Mr Devoy said Tara Street was a vital piece of strategic rail infrastructure for Dublin and its redevelopment was vital to “future-proof” the station to meet future passenger needs. “A ‘do-nothing’ scenario is untenable,” he said.

The application is similar to a previous one granted planning permission in 2001 but this was abandoned three years later because it would involve the temporary closure of the station.

The latest application, which is being assessed by An Bord Pleanála under new fast-track planning procedures, permits the station to remain operating during works.

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Internal pic of Tara Street Station - an entrance

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Thanks for that Odlum

DCC have appealed this on the grounds of 'bulky'

must be worried it might spoil the view of Hawkins Hse.
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Ah, looks cool. Cheers for that odlum.
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Looks good, I hope it happens.
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Old August 19th, 2009, 02:51 PM   #11
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theres a thread about this in archiseek too, i was saying how similer this development looked to the riverpoint tower in limerick city

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Vaguely similar I would say. I can certainly see the comparisons.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 01:27 AM   #13
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,

another dwarf skyscraper for dublin
very plain and if its gonna be as shortie
make it funky

after all the constuction in the last few
years you would think dublin would look
more like rotterdam than look rather than
look like limerick.
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what
the **** is wrong with architects designing
buildings in dublin .....

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News is expected regarding the U2 tower in October so hopefully something can be agreed there. We are also waiting on Aqua Vetro and North Wall Quay applications which are expected before the end of the year. Patience, patience. As regrads buildings made of matchstick - hmmm I don't know tbh...
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Tara Street?

If so, that's a shame.
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This is terrible. Dublin needs all the talls it can to become the impressive 'Skyscraper capital' of Ireland. At least there's still hope for the taller stuff (Or at least some of it :s)
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Sorry, I was very lazy yesterday. It's a pity because that's a very ugly area, and anything would be better than what's there at present.
Although in saying that, I'm not opposed to the idea that there should be no tall buildings west of the Customs House.
However, that should be compensated by skyscrapers everywhere in the port and docks.


Iarnrod Eireann plans rejected

Plans submitted by Iarnrod Eireann to build a 60 metre-tall office block at Tara Street rail station, opposite the Custom House in Dublin, have been rejected by An Bord Pleanála.



The application was part of the €100 million redevelopment of the
Dart and main line station, the second-busiest in the country. The company stated that the project is needed to deal with increasing passenger numbers, and the office block is essential to the commercial viability of the scheme.



An Bord Pleanála has told Iarnród Éireann the proposed office building, would have an adverse effect on the Custom House, the riverscape, streetscape, and the visual character of the city centre due to its large scale and height at 15 storeys.



The development includes a glazed three-storey concourse and 10 storeys of office accommodation designed by Canadian
architects Adamson Associates with a “grain of rice” or “ship-shape” motif.



In a letter sent to Iarnrod Eireann last Friday, the planning board directed that significant changes be made to the scheme and the scale of the building if it is to remain under consideration for planning permission.





http://architecturenow.ie/news/?article=696
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